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Kevin Williamson's original story outline to H20
I know the original script to H20 has been mentioned before but i didn't see any threads regarding this subject.
I recently came across a link which is meant to be Williamson's original story outline to H20.How true this is i don't know but i thought i'd post the link so you can judge for yorself.I also found the following info regarding this original storyline which i have highlighted.
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Link to the Original story outline to H20Notice that he does not disregard part 4 - part 6. Also notice that he creates an elaborate soap-opera style sub-plot, instead of the simpler horny teenagers plot that was in the final version of the film. He also breaks several of the Scream rules, which were based on Halloween and it's imitators. Mick (who's name would eventually become John) is a self absorbed jerk who has sex with the bitch-girl Sara; not the nice character that Josh Hartnett ends up playing. Molly, the virgin, dies at the end. The ending is more elaborate, featuring helicopter crashes and an even worse death for Michael than the decapitation with an ax
http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/m...7treatment.txt Link to the original script to H20 (Michael speaks in this version) http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/m...3/h20rough.txt cheers
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John Carpenter: "I saw a rough cut of Halloween II, and it wasn't scary. It was about as scary as Quincy"
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Slasher
Hall9ween
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Location: Birmingham UK Fav. Halloween Movie: Halloween + Halloween II Fav. Character: Kelly Meeker - 'cause she had big jug... *slap* |
Sounds a bit better than the H20 we got, but it sounds a little too big budget for a 7th sequel in a franchise. How many helicopters do they need...?!
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That would've been a hell of an end to the series. Michaels first word and his death. Sure, we would've still most likely got H:R (or another below par sequel) but the fans couldve seen it as the end to Michael for good! Although i'm not too sure if having him speaking would go down too well with audiences...
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Haddonfield High Alumni
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I like the treatment, but as it has been pointed out, it evolved over the course of re-writes. Over all, I'm pleased with what reached the screen. Trust me, it could have been worse. Just ask Daniel Ferrands about how Dimension interfered with the production of H6.
Kevin Williamson was was in a bit of a hurry when he wrote the treatment. He was asked out to lunch by Jamie Lee, and she gave him her general ideas about what she wanted to accomplish in the film. He promised he'd due the treatment as a favor to her, but he could not write the script because of this committment to pre-production work for the first season of "Dawson's Creek," which was being filmed on location in NC. Unbeknownst to both of them, Robert Zappia was already writing Dimension's next "Halloween" film, "Halloween: Two Faces Of Evil," a stand-alone entry into the series that would have ignored the events of H4-H6. Due to the success of the first two "Scream" films, Williamson had no problem getting a meeting with the Weinstein brothers to pitch his treatment. Dimension switched gears, scrapping a the stand-alone plot, instructing Zappia to flesh out Williamson's treatment. (there is a link on HM.com with a link to Zappia's website, where he is interviewed in depth about the entire script writing process of what became "H20") Ya gotta give props to Williamson for trying to link H20 to H4-H6. In his haste just to get the treatment written, he only made casual references to those films. If he had the time to write the script, I'm sure he would have come up with a way to attempt to expalin everything logically. However, I can see why H4-H6 were omitted from continuity -- simplification. Anyway, Zappia spent almost a year doing re-write after re-write before Matt Greenberg was hired to help him fisinsh the shooting script. Then, before they went into production, Kevin Williamson gave the script a final once-over, tweaking some dialogue and such. The reason Williamson does not receive any writing credit for his work has to do with the rules imposed on the producers by the WGA (Writers Guild of America). Because the final shooting script had changed so much from his original treatment, he would not be allowed to receive a screen credit. However, Jamie Lee Curtis showed her gratitude for his hard work, by making him a "silent producer" of the film, along with her.
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if they were going to end the series with that that would have been awesome
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Banned
maliki
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Member #: 5942
Location: PA Fav. Halloween Movie: HALLOWEEN 1 Fav. Character: MICHAEL RACHAEL PARTS 4 AND 5 |
this is on fox today at 5pm in pa
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Kevin Williamson's original story outline is going to be on today?
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Banned
maliki
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Location: PA Fav. Halloween Movie: HALLOWEEN 1 Fav. Character: MICHAEL RACHAEL PARTS 4 AND 5 |
no h20 sorry for confusion
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IMO the original outline sucks too.
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I thought the original treatment was a good idea, but of course good ideas and Dimension don't always mix.
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TommyDoyle2
Zen like and feeling
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I liked the treatment. Better than what we got, and proving that ignoring H4-H6 was pointless. They COULD have been included.
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jimmymiro12
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I dont think i would have wanted michael to talk.
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mr32
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I dont know the only thing that caught my eye was when sara gave in her report that tied H20 the other 3 films together. They should of incorprated that into the fianl production that would of work i find. That my opinion.
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Slasher
jaquen
ranting about H20
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-I've read that early draft of H7. It's convoluted nonsense that destorys one of H20's greatest assests; it's keen simplicity, and relatively short, swift progression. I love that the script ended up being pared down to basically little more than Michael, Laurie, and John. It is said simplicity that connects it most to the original Halloween, itself an extremely sparse film. Had this script gone forward it would have had more in common with the bogged down, overploted Halloweens 5 and 6, which would have been a nightmare. The ending with the pool floor, and helicopter blades, is an embarrassment of massive proportions.
-I like some of Williamson's original treatment, and the subplot with Mick, Molly, and Sara sounds a spot more interesting than what we got in the long run. I like Charlie and Sara, but they've got little depth, and virtually no development. It's greatest strength was having Laurie dealing very realistically with her tramua by evolving into a pill popping, narotic, functioning alchololic mess. I love that development and I'm glad it survived. -Will works far better as a school counselor. I love the irony of the emotionally, and psychologically screwed over Laurie Strode dating, of all people, a psychologist. -Mick's assholish ways, if done well, could have played out in spades. The idea of him playing a cruel Halloween joke like that on his mother is twisted, but effective. -HATE the ending. The idea of the dance negates the terror of a secluded school present in the finished product. Hate the idea of Molly and Mick being involved in the final battle between Laurie and Micheal. And absolutely hate, just like the draft, this idiotic propeller death. One thing H20 got undeniably right was the final 20 minutes, and it's head and shoulders above the nonsense in this draft. How can a 20 year homage to Halloween turn into some half assed action flick involving helicopters and explosions on mountain tops? Just as the original ended with a battle to the death between Laurie and Micheal, so should too it's homage film. -While I admit the infamous classroom scene would have been interesting to see, leaving it out was best. Including 4-6 via that scene would have opened more questions than answered, and bogged the entire film down with so many issues that it would never have been able to answer, or recover from. H20 is best left in an alternate reality from 4-6. |
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