Spider-man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phatmaster2k8]

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Everybody from UHMB knows how frigin obsessed I am about everything Spider-Man! I love the movies, the comics, the games, and the kick ass old tv shows. Now lets chat!:D

[MichaelMyers]

The movies were great especially the 2nd one.

[Michaeleon]

Spider who?



;)
I still haven't seen the second film, but I thought the first one was fantastic. My little cousin has the spiderman video game for his Ps2. I tried playing it for a while but could never really get into it. Probably because I suffering from a terrible migraine at the time, but I managed.
Oh, and whatever happened to that spiderman show on MTV? I remember seeing a few episodes last summer and it just vanished.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k5
MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Everybody from UHMB knows how frigin obsessed I am about everything Spider-Man! I love the movies, the comics, the games, and the kick ass old tv shows. Now lets chat!:D

You and me both. Spider-Man 2 is my favorite movie of all time...Period! I liked the show on MTV, I have seen it on DVD and have thought about picking it up, the SM2 videogame is si much damn fun! Did anyone catch the Vulture reference to the first SM movie game in SM2? If you didn't then go to the building near Tudor City, (it's the one with the pointy things sticking out of it where you fought Vulture in the first one) you will find the feathers to Vulture's costume on one of the ledges, I found it pretty cool. I also found this: Spider-Man Costume (http://hometown.aol.com/spiderman4fun/spiderman.html)

[Dchabz]

The MTV show as the shit! what happened to it?

[Creepingmouth]

do you know why Stan Lee appears for some seconds in both movies doing always the same thing (saving someone from some piece of building falling down)?
He could have done a little bigger cameo

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Dchabz
The MTV show as the shit! what happened to it?

I don't know, all of a sudden it wasn't on anymore.

[Dchabz]

Originally posted by Ringu
I don't know, all of a sudden it wasn't on anymore.


I know, i used to watch that and the New tom green show every night over the summer, but it just ended like THAT by that next weekened. lol. I thought they were both badass shows and i guess they weren't getting ratings?

[Phatmaster2k8]

Yeah I guess the MTV show wasn't getting good ratings. Makes me sad:(

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k5
Yeah I guess the MTV show wasn't getting good ratings. Makes me sad:(

I thought it was cool with th Cel-Shading and everything.

[Creepingmouth]

What's your favorite Spidey's villain?

my top 5 is

the Green Goblin
Lizard
Venom
Hobgoblin
Dr. Doom (not really a Spidey's villain but he faced Spider Man more than once)

[boogeyman87]

Top 5 villians-

Venom
Carnage
Mysterio
Vulture
Electro

[Ringu]

Nobody has Doc Ock on their list? Hmmmph..

Doc Ock
Venom
Carnage
Lizard
HobGoblin

That list might change...

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Ringu
Nobody has Doc Ock on their list? Hmmmph..

I loved him on the big screen but not in comics

[Chuck D]

Just saw Spider-Man 2 on the big screen again... except this time... IMAX!!!

Jesus... I highly recommend it... you could feel the web-slinging! :D

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
Just saw Spider-Man 2 on the big screen again... except this time... IMAX!!!

Jesus... I highly recommend it... you could feel the web-slinging! :D

that's a good reason to see it again

[Ringu]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
Just saw Spider-Man 2 on the big screen again... except this time... IMAX!!!

Jesus... I highly recommend it... you could feel the web-slinging! :D

I get excited just thinking about it...uggh I gotta go change my pants now....:p

[Chuck D]

Originally posted by Ringu
I get excited just thinking about it...uggh I gotta go change my pants now....:p

I dont blame you... it was that good!

[Ringu]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
I dont blame you... it was that good!

I bet it was...ughh that's two pairs!

[Chuck D]

Originally posted by Ringu
I bet it was...ughh that's two pairs!

Cream!!!

[Ringu]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
Cream!!!

Like I say, Spider-Man's not the first person to come away with sticky hands after using the web.

[Chuck D]

Originally posted by Ringu
Like I say, Spider-Man's not the first person to come away with sticky hands after using the web.

Haha... that is a fine quote! :D

[Ringu]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
Haha... that is a fine quote! :D

I like it.

[Chuck D]

Originally posted by Ringu
I like it.

Who couldnt like it?

[Ringu]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
Who couldnt like it?

Old people....They're part of a conspiracy... :gets all shifty eyed:

[boogeyman87]

Look at yourselfs. Deamed to talking about leaving protein stains in your pants over Spiderman!! Maryjane i can see, Felicia Hardy i can see, Gwen Stacy i can see! But Peter Parker. Go take a cold , cold , cold shower guys. :p

[Chuck D]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
Look at yourselfs. Deamed to talking about leaving protein stains in your pants over Spiderman!! Maryjane i can see, Felicia Hardy i can see, Gwen Stacy i can see! But Peter Parker. Go take a cold , cold , cold shower guys. :p

I dont remember mentioning Peter... ;)

No cold shower needed...

[Chuck D]

Besides... have you seen the IMAX version?

Didnt think so... ;)

Watch that and you'll be saying the same stuff as me... mark my words

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
Besides... have you seen the IMAX version?

Didnt think so... ;)

Watch that and you'll be saying the same stuff as me... mark my words

Your words are marked sir. :)

[MichaelMyers]

Spiderman 2 is mine when it comes out on DVD. Can't wait for #3 to come it in 2 or 3 years.

[zombie commando]

I used to really like SpiderMan...but I just can't get into that character anymore.

I guess it's because they are trying to make him look like a pathetic loser, but he has the greatest life ever, I mean he is married to a super model for crying out loud.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by zombie commando
I used to really like SpiderMan...but I just can't get into that character anymore.

I guess it's because they are trying to make him look like a pathetic loser....

Right sometimes his stories seem too soap-opera like with tragedies at every conner but I still read them

[Chuck D]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Spiderman 2 is mine when it comes out on DVD. Can't wait for #3 to come it in 2 or 3 years.

I hope they use Carnage and Venom as the villians... that would be the greatest cream movie of all-time!

[Ringu]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
I hope they use Carnage and Venom as the villians... that would be the greatest cream movie of all-time!

No one's going to let that die...

Sam Raimi said he will never direct Venom in a movie.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by ChuckyDarko
I hope they use Carnage and Venom as the villians... that would be the greatest cream movie of all-time!

I think you can forget Venom and Carnage,next villains at the moment are gonna be the Green Goblin (Harry) and Lizard (Raimi in S-2 introduced Dr.Connors' character not without a reason I suppose)

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth
I think you can forget Venom and Carnage,next villains at the moment are gonna be the Green Goblin (Harry) and Lizard (Raimi in S-2 introduced Dr.Connors' character not without a reason I suppose)

I also noticed on the back of the SM2 DVD case ther is an explosion behind Doc Ock and if you look closely you can see a face that resembles The Lizard in it...

[MichaelMyers]

Dr. Conners was mentioned in the 1st movie as well. So was Eddie Brock A.K.A. Venom Plus Jameson's son is the guy who goes into space and brings back Venom anyway.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Dr. Conners was mentioned in the 1st movie as well. So was Eddie Brock A.K.A. Venom Plus Jameson's son is the guy who goes into space and brings back Venom anyway.

John Jameson turns into Man-Wolf.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Dr. Conners was mentioned in the 1st movie as well. So was Eddie Brock A.K.A. Venom Plus Jameson's son is the guy who goes into space and brings back Venom anyway.

Not at all.
Venom is not the symbiotic alien from space but he's made by the union of Eddie with that alien outfit and togheter are Venom.
Spidey had that alien symbiotic costume during the Secret Wars

[Phatmaster2k8]

I still say Spider-Man 3 won't be all that great. But to think I said that about SM2......

[Phatmaster2k8]

Right now the comic storyline is really good. One of the best.....

*SPOILERS*

In The Amazing Spider-Man comic storyline Peter fought one of his toughest battles against two villains who he didn't know. After they fought again one of the villains took off their mask (they wore the exact same black jumpsuit) and to my surprise the villain was Gwen Stacy!

Peter figures out that it wasn't his long lost love after she kicks his ass and the other guy takes his mask off and tells Pete that they are getting revenge for their mother's death. Wait did Peter and Gwen have kids! He tell this to MJ who then she freaks out, tells Peter that they aren't his kids but none other then his arch-nemesis Norman Osborne's.
*END SPOILERS*

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k5
I still say Spider-Man 3 won't be all that great. But to think I said that about SM2......

What makes you say that? There has been no indication that it will be bad, nobody thought that it would top SM1 and it blew it away!

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k5
I still say Spider-Man 3 won't be all that great. But to think I said that about SM2......

don't say things you'll have to take back;)

[MichaelMyers]

Spiderman 3 will be great just as the first two were.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Spiderman 3 will be great just as the first two were.

Actually I hope even better, SM2 is my favorite movie ever, just look in my sig.

[MichaelMyers]

Yeah the 2nd was great but 3 will kick its ass.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
What makes you say that? There has been no indication that it will be bad, nobody thought that it would top SM1 and it blew it away!

I know, but SM3 on paper doesn't look too great. Having two villains ruins a superhero movie, and using The Lizard (which is a GREAT villain) and Harry as GG2 will be terrible! They were about to use The Lizard in SM2 but Raimi was smart and discarded him (Bruce Campbell was going to play him!!!!). Sam Raimi did do the near impossible and make a sequel which was better then the predacessor in everyway, maybe he can do the impossible again and make a concluding third movie which is even better. Because if anybody can it's him. If he sticks with story and not the villains it will be great, if the teaser blows me away then I will be pumped.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k5
I know, but SM3 on paper doesn't look too great. Having two villains ruins a superhero movie, and using The Lizard (which is a GREAT villain) and Harry as GG2 will be terrible! They were about to use The Lizard in SM2 but Raimi was smart and discarded him (Bruce Campbell was going to play him!!!!). Sam Raimi did do the near impossible and make a sequel which was
better then the predacessor in everyway, maybe he can do the impossible again and make a concluding third movie which is even better. Because if anybody can it's him. If he sticks with story and not the villains it will be great, if the teaser blows me away then I will be pumped.

Actually a villain hasn't been decided yet, here's an interview with Sam Raimi:

Sam Raimi on the fate of the Spider-Man films:
I know how quickly things turn in Hollywood and after the third, that will be it…I'm not supposed to tell and in fact, I can't tell you cause I'm still figuring it out. I don't exactly know; I've got a few ideas…I was working on it yesterday with my brother. We are writing the story right now and we are starting by determining what Peter Parker's journey is as a human being. What deficits does he have; where was he at the end of the last film and what is it that he still has to learn? How will the relationship with the woman that he loves evolve from this point forward? And what will be their new obstacles? Will it come from outside forces or will it be something from within that destroys their love? These are the questions we're asking. When we got them figured out, when we know what they want and where they are headed and what it is they have to learn, those obstacles that they encounter, that will prevent them, (which the source of any drama, those conflicts). We will try and find the villain that best represents those conflicts. It may be a kind of backwards way to choose a villain, but that's why I can't quite say yet…I'd love to make more; I think that Sony just…I think that Amy Pascal who is really my boss, chairman of Sony. I've never asked her, but I get the feeling she just wants this one to be the final one. She's very emotionally attached to them and wants us to have a sense of completion to it, for the audience. And feels that's what the audience wants and they don't want to see a Spider-Man 4. That they would probably would like to see a Spider-Man 3, but probably not really anymore. So she wants to make it complete and final without setting up new things at the end, like the end of the second one.

Sam Raimi on when Spider-Man 3 begins shooting:
That date's in flux. I think by January 2006, I know that sounds like a long way away, but not for me.

Sam Raimi on who he hopes to write the film:
(We are) Bringing in really good writers such as Alvin Sergeant. Maybe Michael Chabon, if I can get him. Yeah, the best in the business.[i]

Sam Raimi on a Spider-Man 2.5 DVD:
[i]I know that I won't be done with my part of it (for the November 30 DVD)…The new effects shot. The editing; I'm still boarding the new scenes. I don't know, but I don't think I can be done till at least January, maybe February…I'm kind of completing scenes that I didn't have the money to complete when we did the movie. I board out with my artists a lot of sequences from the Spider-Man movies that I eventually cut down for pacing sake. Most often times for money sake cause I can't afford them. Now Sony said to me, we want to release a 2.5 because they want to make more money. The movie was really the best I could make it; I said if you really want to spend money and really give the kids a few more action scenes. They said fine, it's the kid's choice if they really want to spend that money and I think it's fair. .. It may not seem like a lot to you, but it's a lot to me. There's like 6 seconds new of the train sequence. It's going to be like 8 seconds new of some water fight you never saw. It's like 12 seconds new on this battle building. For me, 12 seconds is 6 shots that have to be all figured out. In that 2 seconds, the amount of animation of in the tentacles. How Spidey is going to movie and it's very complicated to me.

Sam Raimi on the announcement of Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash:
In Variety, they said they were making it was very unusual. I don't know much about their plans, but we'd rather not do that right now…As fun as that sounded, I think they are two different worlds. Evil Dead and Freddy and Jason; maybe at another time that would be a better combination.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Ringu
Actually a villain hasn't been decided yet, here's an interview with Sam Raimi:

Sam Raimi on the fate of the Spider-Man films:
IShe's very emotionally attached to them and wants us to have a sense of completion to it, for the audience. And feels that's what the audience wants and they don't want to see a Spider-Man 4.

beg to disagree with Miss Pascal but I would like to see even a #4 ;)

nice article!

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth
beg to disagree with Miss Pascal but I would like to see even a #4 ;)

nice article!

I want to see a 4 too but I also don't want this series to go down the same path as the Batman series...

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Ringu
I want to see a 4 too but I also don't want this series to go down the same path as the Batman series...

Right,that's a risk but Batman series started to go down since Batman Returns while Spider-Man 2 is even better than the first.
It sounds weird hearing me talkin about Spider-Man 4 when they still have to start filming Spider-Man 3!

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth
Right,that's a risk but Batman series started to go down since Batman Returns while Spider-Man 2 is even better than the first.
It sounds weird hearing me talkin about Spider-Man 4 when they still have to start filming Spider-Man 3!

I know, right when Tim Burton left (and Joel Schumakerererererer came in) things went to crap, this won't happen w/ Spidey, Sam cares too much about it to let it go down that road.

[Johnathon]

Spider-Man 2 was awesome. I hated Spider-Man 1, because it was boring, and was to colorful for my taste. Spider-Man 2 was very dark. It was like a Tim Burton Batman movie.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by Ringu
That date's in flux. I think by January 2006, I know that sounds like a long way away, but not for me.

Man thats a long time to wait. Is he planing on other films to shoot or is he just giving the script time and letting tobey and kirsten do some projects. Well, heres to 2006.

[Ravenheart]

I found this at comicbookmovies.com


October 11, 2004: Sam Raimi surprised a lot of press this weekend when he revealed that Columbia Pictures intends for "Spider-Man 3" to be the final film in the series. Seems, Sony's film head Amy Pascal has made it clear that she wants a definitive finale and so all the loose threads from the last two films must be tied up. So what does that mean story wise? Raimi spoke to LatinoReview about the possibilities and what that might mean for the Harry Osborn/Hobgoblin arc: "I'm not sure what's in Harry's mind. I'm trying to figure that out right now. It's like if you blamed someone for the death of your father all these years and someone who was supposedly this hero, vigilante, and then you realized that your father was a mass murderer, it might change things...As much of a responsibility as I have to the fans of the comic books, I also have an equal responsibility to be true to the intelligence of the character as portrayed in the Spider-Man movies". Despite Pascal's intentions, Raimi seemed keen on working on further Spidey movies if he were allowed to but will concede to her wishes for now - "One thing that Amy Pascal told me was that she wants to make this a proper ending to the Spider-Man saga. I'd like to keep directing Spider-Man movies but I think she's thinking that the audience feels they want to see one more and no more. They want to have a proper ending to the story now. So I think maybe she's right, and so I'm approaching it under her guidance and that's how I'm trying to think of this film as the end". Thanks to 'DarkHorizons' for the news.

[Maxvayne]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
Man thats a long time to wait. Is he planing on other films to shoot or is he just giving the script time and letting tobey and kirsten do some projects. Well, heres to 2006.

The Year I get out of school!!!! Ill try and pick up the box set for the second, but I don't know if ill have enough cash by then with all the stuff I want now. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Phatmaster2k8]

It doesn't matter what anybody says, there will be more Spider-Man movies. Sony will make more just because it brings in the most money they have ever seen. You have to remember though they want to please the fans if you have a movie that brings in $400 Million dollars you are going to make more then three movies.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by Maxvayne
The Year I get out of school!!!! Ill try and pick up the box set for the second, but I don't know if ill have enough cash by then with all the stuff I want now. We'll just have to wait and see.

Yes the year i get out of school as well. I cant wait for that. I guess it will be around the summer or maybe fall of 06. Right in time for my newly free'd self to check it out. Maybe i'll even still be here on the board.

[Ravenheart]

If they can keep the quality high like in the first two,I'd love to see it go further then 3 movies.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k5
It doesn't matter what anybody says, there will be more Spider-Man movies. Sony will make more just because it brings in the most money they have ever seen. You have to remember though they want to please the fans if you have a movie that brings in $400 Million dollars you are going to make more then three movies.

Hope you're right

[TheShape66]

Here's the latest from Raimi on SM3 (courtesy SuperheroHype):

Having finished the Spider-Man 2 DVD, Raimi is set to begin work on a screenplay with Alvin Sargent (Spider-Man 2, Unfaithful). For now, Raimi will only name-drop some classic Spidey villians, including the Green Goblin — possibly resurrected by Harry Osborn (James Franco) — the Vulture and Kraven the Hunter.

"I'm trying to figure out what (Peter Parker) is going to be learning on this next adventure," Raimi says. "Once I know this journey and the conflicts to put in, I would choose the villain that best represents those conflicts."

[Creepingmouth]

I guess the Green Goblin will be in it for sure;I'd rather see Lizard than the Vulture while Kraven the Hunter,if correctly performed,could be a good choise.
The real challenge for Spidey would be Venom but I highly doubt we're gonna see him in the next movie.
I hope Raimi won't put the word end to the Spider-Man series with #3 'cause it would be really a shame not seeing the real Spidey nemesis.

[zombie commando]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth
I guess the Green Goblin will be in it for sure;I'd rather see Lizard than the Vulture while Kraven the Hunter,if correctly performed,could be a good choise.
The real challenge for Spidey would be Venom but I highly doubt we're gonna see him in the next movie.
I hope Raimi won't put the word end to the Spider-Man series with #3 'cause it would be really a shame not seeing the real Spidey nemesis.

Venom didn't show up untill Spiderman had been around for awile. McFarlane was penciling Spiderman when Venom reared his mug. Quite honestly, I don't think he is an appropriate villian for the big screen. Visually he is cool, but his origin is kind of silly. They would have to tinker with it quite a bit, running the danger of pissing off diehard comic continuity geeks. I'm not sure I would classify a villian that came from the Secret Wars as the REAL Spiderman villian. Spiderman's biggest villian has always been Green Goblin, followed by Doctor Octopus.

I think the Vulture would be a great villian for the screen. Sandman deserves an appearance, as well as Kraven. I don't care if it's a cameo, but those names must be mentioned. I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit about the Cameleon crop up. He was, after all, Spiderman's first nemesis.

I think Raimi is doing the right thing by deciding what conflicts Peter Parker will be facing before throwing the villians into the fold. Batman became just a villian showcase, and I don't want to see that hamper this thus far superbly crafted series.

It wasn't Raimi's decision to do three movies, it was the producer's and the executive's. They feel that a trillogy will be the best thing for Raimi to do, and then wait a couple years before leaping into another set of movies with a different film maker. They don't want to run the risk of burning Sam out. Every interview I have read about him usually mentions how exhausted he looks, and how grueling his shooting schedule can be.

[thetodd]

I think the Moonwolf might make an appearance in a sequel. The Lizard almost certainly will. And the Goblin will be back. They made that much obvious at the end of Spidey 2.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by zombie commando
Venom didn't show up untill Spiderman had been around for awile. McFarlane was penciling Spiderman when Venom reared his mug. Quite honestly, I don't think he is an appropriate villian for the big screen. Visually he is cool, but his origin is kind of silly. They would have to tinker with it quite a bit, running the danger of pissing off diehard comic continuity geeks. I'm not sure I would classify a villian that came from the Secret Wars as the REAL Spiderman villian. Spiderman's biggest villian has always been Green Goblin, followed by Doctor Octopus.

Read the comics,Venom is the strongest and the more loved new generation villain.The Green Goblin performed by Norman Osborne is dead and Doc Ock simply have done his time.Venom's origins don't matter since the only problem may concearn the alien symbiont origins (not more silly then Superman's ones)which can be easily changed.

Pissing a die hard comic continuity geek is not a problem at all since many things in the movie are different from the comics (Spidey's body doesn't self produce web,in the first movie there should be Gwen Stacy at M J place and she should die and so on).
Every Spidey fan would like to see Venom in a movie,it doesn't matter where the alien comes from the important thing is that it meets a furious Eddie Brock.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth
Read the comics,Venom is the strongest and the more loved new generation villain.The Green Goblin performed by Norman Osborne is dead and Doc Ock simply have done his time.Venom's origins don't matter since the only problem may concearn the alien symbiont origins (not more silly then Superman's ones)which can be easily changed.

Pissing a die hard comic continuity geek is not a problem at all since many things in the movie are different from the comics (Spidey's body doesn't self produce web,in the first movie there should be Gwen Stacy at M J place and she should die and so on).
Every Spidey fan would like to see Venom in a movie,it doesn't matter where the alien comes from the important thing is that it meets a furious Eddie Brock.
I agree. Venom would be an awesome onscreen villian. I think that changing his origin wouldn't be as big a deal because comic fans would understand that it is necessary. It's when things are altered that don't need to be that comics fans get po'd.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by thetodd
I think the Moonwolf might make an appearance in a sequel. The Lizard almost certainly will. And the Goblin will be back. They made that much obvious at the end of Spidey 2.

Not necessarily, Sam Raimi even said that Harry might not become the next GG. At the end of SM2 you would think so, but Raimi also said that Harry might just forgive Peter after learning his father died a psycho-murdering supervillain.

[MichaelMyers]

I just read this too on comingsoon.net today that Sam Raimi is starting the script and is thinking of putting Harry as Green Goblin again, Kraven the Hunter and the Vulture. He's not completely sure yet, or at least thats what he wants us to believe. I would like to see Venom in it, or if not him then the entire sinister six.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I just read this too on comingsoon.net today that Sam Raimi is starting the script and is thinking of putting Harry as Green Goblin again, Kraven the Hunter and the Vulture. He's not completely sure yet, or at least thats what he wants us to believe. I would like to see Venom in it, or if not him then the entire sinister six.

I believe he's already done with the script? Finished it a couple monthes ago with his brother. Read it in Wizard, unless i'm mistaken. Sorry if i am. :)

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
I believe he's already done with the script? Finished it a couple monthes ago with his brother. Read it in Wizard, unless i'm mistaken. Sorry if i am. :)

He is writing everything but the villain, after Raimi finds out what Peter's troubles are in this movie then he will pick a villain that goes with that problem.

[zombie commando]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth
Read the comics,Venom is the strongest and the more loved new generation villain.The Green Goblin performed by Norman Osborne is dead and Doc Ock simply have done his time.Venom's origins don't matter since the only problem may concearn the alien symbiont origins (not more silly then Superman's ones)which can be easily changed.

Pissing a die hard comic continuity geek is not a problem at all since many things in the movie are different from the comics (Spidey's body doesn't self produce web,in the first movie there should be Gwen Stacy at M J place and she should die and so on).
Every Spidey fan would like to see Venom in a movie,it doesn't matter where the alien comes from the important thing is that it meets a furious Eddie Brock.

HAHA, I do read the comics. I have a stack of them in my basement to prove it. I have all the current issues of Spiderman as well. I've been reading Spiderman far before Venom even came into play. I have a slew of the older comics as well, reaching all the way back to issue 16 of the original series. If you still read Spiderman, you'd know they made the change to organic webs. You would also know they have been taking bits and pieces from various Spiderman continuities. Alot of the movie was taken from the Ultimate Spiderman comic line, where Oz Corp genetically engineers the spider that bites Peter. MJ appears the same way there as she does the movie.

I just don't believe that Venom fits into the story at this point. The obvious choices are the Lizard and Green Goblin. Throwing in Venom will add one too many villians to the roundup of part 3. If they added Venom, they would have to pull the spotlight away from the characters that Raimi has already worked into the plot. It would come off as too forced. The reason part 2 worked was that it played off of the existing story. There was a smooth transition. It was like the second picked up where the first ended off. To throw Venom into the picture when you have both The Lizard and the Green Goblin already built up, would be ridiculous.

I think they should save Venom......or better yet CARNAGE for the 4th installment, that will be directed by someone other than Raimi. Let him finish his opus before bringing in a new character.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Right now Raimi is talking about GG2 (Harry), Kraven, and The Vulture as future interests. I mean, The Vulture and Kraven are cool villains but having them carry a movie by themselves would be terrible. Raimi should have Harry be the main villain and have one of those two be in the starting before Harry becomes the second goblin.

[boogeyman87]

I wonder if Rami has considered putting Black Cat in the script. I know Eliza Dushku was rumored awhile ago but i still think she would be perfect for the role. Are there other characters you guys think she be in the 3rd one besides the villian?

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by zombie commando
HAHA, I do read the comics. I have a stack of them in my basement to prove it. I have all the current issues of Spiderman as well. I've been reading Spiderman far before Venom even came into play. I have a slew of the older comics as well, reaching all the way back to issue 16 of the original series. If you still read Spiderman, you'd know they made the change to organic webs. You would also know they have been taking bits and pieces from various Spiderman continuities. Alot of the movie was taken from the Ultimate Spiderman comic line, where Oz Corp genetically engineers the spider that bites Peter. MJ appears the same way there as she does the movie.

I said "read the comics" only meaning to consider what comics show I didn't mean to say "you have to read the comics before talkin".Don't be offended,there's no need.

Ultimate Spiderman is a big commercial bullshit made only to put new spider man fans attrachted by the first two movies at ease with story and continuity since the original series nowadays was for them simply a jungle.Uncle Ben still alive and aunt May surfin the web? C'mon man, Ultimate is really cheap crap and doesn't show the original Spider-Man/Peter Parker we all love.It's like makin a Batman comic where both his parents where still alive:you would miss the whole point of Bruce Wayne being a hero.Nonetheless the new Green Goblin is horrible.
If you like Ultimate you have nothing to do with Spider-Man but that's ok since is always about fuckin comic books were're talkin about

[zombie commando]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth

If you like Ultimate you have nothing to do with Spider-Man but that's ok since is always about fuckin comic books were're talkin about

I don't know what you are trying to say with this sentence.

Just some quick points you got wrong:
1.) Ben isn't alive in this series.
2.) I don't see how Aunt May using a computer is such a terrible thing.
3.) It's the same Spiderman we all know and love, except he's brought up in the modern age. His story is streamlined and updated.
4.) The series was out before the movies.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by zombie commando
I don't know what you are trying to say with this sentence.

Just some quick points you got wrong:
1.) Ben isn't alive in this series.
2.) I don't see how Aunt May using a computer is such a terrible thing.
3.) It's the same Spiderman we all know and love, except he's brought up in the modern age. His story is streamlined and updated.
4.) The series was out before the movies.

Yeah I like the Ultimate storyline, and you can't blame Marvel for putting it out. The Ultimate Spider-Man series is the most bought comic out there right now. The last storyline with Carnage was pretty cool, but too bad they killed off Gwen Stacy that easily. Not a huge impact like Amazing had.

Has anybody been reading Amazing's last storyline "Sin's Past"? It is so good.

[thetodd]

Of all the superhero comic books adapted for television and the big screen, Spiderman comes the closest to remaining true to the comic. Superman was good, too.

[Phatmaster2k8]

In a recent interview with Sam Raimi he said that he just finshed Spider-Man 3's story with his brother Ivan and that Alvin Sargent is now working on the screenplay. He also said that he would be thrilled to work on all the Spider-Man movies to come. Still no word on a villain.

[AJ*]

Here's my tribute to Spider-man 2...great movie and definitely in my Top 10.

Spider-man 2 "The Burden" (http://hitmanyr2k.com/AJSpiderman2.avi)

Music by Sevendust
Length - 3:29
Codec - MPEG4v2

[Ringu]

Guess what I just found out? It was in my Sports and Entertainment Marketing class at school and we were talking about movies and my friend says that her cousin works at SONY pictures and I said doing what? and she said "He works on visual effects, he worked on the ones for both Spider-Man films" I was like :eek: WOW, that is awesome!

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
Guess what I just found out? It was in my Sports and Entertainment Marketing class at school and we were talking about movies and my friend says that her cousin works at SONY pictures and I said doing what? and she said "He works on visual effects, he worked on the ones for both Spider-Man films" I was like :eek: WOW, that is awesome!

Thats really cool, you should find out the guy's name so we can look him up in the credits.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Here are the two things I want to see happen in Spider-Man 3:

First off, I hope we see Peter's and Harry's first meeting since Harry pulled off the mask and found out that Peter is Spider-Man. I think Raimi and Co. owe the fans that scene. It would be so cool to see, I would be so mad if they don't show us that, even if it is a flashback, just to see what they say to eachother. I just want to see that.

And second, Spider-Man has to throw out more one-liners like he does in the comics. I mean I can only remember one instance when Peter caught the coin bag in the bank and threw it back at Ock and said "Here's your change!". Other then web-swinging this is what Spider-Man is known for. He always pisses off the bad guy so much that they can't think cleary, and in Spider-Man 3 I hope they can give him some better lines.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Thats really cool, you should find out the guy's name so we can look him up in the credits.

I'll try and do that.

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Here are the two things I want to see happen in Spider-Man 3:

First off, I hope we see Peter's and Harry's first meeting since Harry pulled off the mask and found out that Peter is Spider-Man. I think Raimi and Co. owe the fans that scene. It would be so cool to see, I would be so mad if they don't show us that, even if it is a flashback, just to see what they say to eachother. I just want to see that.

And second, Spider-Man has to throw out more one-liners like he does in the comics. I mean I can only remember one instance when Peter caught the coin bag in the bank and threw it back at Ock and said "Here's your change!". Other then web-swinging this is what Spider-Man is known for. He always pisses off the bad guy so much that they can't think cleary, and in Spider-Man 3 I hope they can give him some better lines.

Yeah, those two things need to happen, I don't really see how they can keep Peter and Harry away from each other for the whole movie though. And Spidey needs more one-liners.

[The Darkness]

Ah! The Spider-Man films. I knew there had to have been a thread about them around here somewhere.

Anyways, Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2, are my top two movies of all time. It's amazing how much you can really learn from these films. I know that may sound dumb, but these movies have changed me. Watching Peter Parker and his relationships with everyone has really made me identify with him. I guess that's why it has changed me so much.

What I like so much about the films is that you like Peter and you like Spider-Man. And when he becomes the hero, I feel torn between two things. To be happy for him, and to feel sorry for him. It's really a mixed emotion for me. Here Peter becomes this cool superhero so you're really happy for him, but then you see the problems he faces. And it's all because he's Spider-Man. If he wasn't this superhero, his life could be amazing.

I love watching these films and having this double feeling.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by The Darkness
Ah! The Spider-Man films. I knew there had to have been a thread about them around here somewhere.

Anyways, Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2, are my top two movies of all time. It's amazing how much you can really learn from these films. I know that may sound dumb, but these movies have changed me. Watching Peter Parker and his relationships with everyone has really made me identify with him. I guess that's why it has changed me so much.

What I like so much about the films is that you like Peter and you like Spider-Man. And when he becomes the hero, I feel torn between two things. To be happy for him, and to feel sorry for him. It's really a mixed emotion for me. Here Peter becomes this cool superhero so you're really happy for him, but then you see the problems he faces. And it's all because he's Spider-Man. If he wasn't this superhero, his life could be amazing.

I love watching these films and having this double feeling.

Oh believe me, you are not alone. I think Spider-Man 2 is the greatest movie ever made. Everything about that movie is amazing. The way Sam Raimi has made those two films is amazing. I love the Peter Parker character, he is this amazing superhero, but he is also this average guy who has the everyday problems we have. He has to balance saving the city, and having a job or two. You never see Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent having to worry about everyday problems Peter has to face, and for that reason is why I love Spider-Man.

Oh yeah almost forgot, here is first ever promo one-piece for Spider-Man 3;)

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Oh believe me, you are not alone. I think Spider-Man 2 is the greatest movie ever made. Everything about that movie is amazing. The way Sam Raimi has made those two films is amazing. I love the Peter Parker character, he is this amazing superhero, but he is also this average guy who has the everyday problems we have. He has to balance saving the city, and having a job or two. You never see Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent having to worry about everyday problems Peter has to face, and for that reason is why I love Spider-Man.

Oh yeah almost forgot, here is first ever promo one-piece for Spider-Man 3;)

!!!!!YES!!!! Thank-You, even that got me excited.


You want mixed emotions Darkness, then play Metal Gear Solid 3, you feel happy, sad, mad, and everything after beating it (assuming of course that you've played MGS 1 & 2 beforehand)

[Phatmaster2k8]

I love that one-piece. Why couldn't the people here in the States get that in our DVDs?

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
I love that one-piece. Why couldn't the people here in the States get that in our DVDs?

They must hate us over here...

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
They must hate us over here...

Fucking French people.

[The Darkness]

Originally posted by Ringu
!!!!!YES!!!! Thank-You, even that got me excited.


You want mixed emotions Darkness, then play Metal Gear Solid 3, you feel happy, sad, mad, and everything after beating it (assuming of course that you've played MGS 1 & 2 beforehand)

Oh I've played it. Awesome game. I know exactly what you mean.

[The Darkness]

Check this out guys.

Spider-Man 3 News (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=2453)

Well, it's officially being written. Too bad it's not coming out until 2007, but I think it's going to be well worth the wait.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by The Darkness
Check this out guys.

Spider-Man 3 News (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=2453)

Well, it's officially being written. Too bad it's not coming out until 2007, but I think it's going to be well worth the wait.

Cool news, that's good and it's also good you know what I mean for MGS3.

[Phatmaster2k8]

I hope Sargent writes in Peter's and Harry's first meeting since the end of SM2. It would be the coolest thing to see.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
I hope Sargent writes in Peter's and Harry's first meeting since the end of SM2. It would be the coolest thing to see.

I know, I love those sort of things in sequels where they do that, like seeing the remains of the "Orca" in Jaws 2.

[The Darkness]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
I hope Sargent writes in Peter's and Harry's first meeting since the end of SM2. It would be the coolest thing to see.

I don't think they have a choice. They almost have to put that in there. It's necessary. If they didn't, it would be a huge letdown. But trust me, I think Raimi and everyone else know what they're doing, and they won't skip on that. It's too big a risk.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by The Darkness
I don't think they have a choice. They almost have to put that in there. It's necessary. If they didn't, it would be a huge letdown. But trust me, I think Raimi and everyone else know what they're doing, and they won't skip on that. It's too big a risk.

Yeah it needs to be in there.

[Ringu]

Spider-Man saves SONY:
Sony's film and TV companies, which had long been a drag on the company's profits until recent years, turned out to be the sole bright spot on the company's books in 2004, according to the company's SEC filings Thursday. Overall company revenue during the third quarter fell 7.5 percent to $20.9 billion, while operating profit dropped 13 percent to $1.3 billion. The company was unable to meet sales targets for its new digital audio players, TV sets, cameras, and PlayStation consoles. However, the movie business, boosted by DVD sales of Spider-Man 2 and Seinfeld collections, saw a 12-percent leap in revenue to $1.96 billion in the quarter.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
Spider-Man saves SONY:
Sony's film and TV companies, which had long been a drag on the company's profits until recent years, turned out to be the sole bright spot on the company's books in 2004, according to the company's SEC filings Thursday. Overall company revenue during the third quarter fell 7.5 percent to $20.9 billion, while operating profit dropped 13 percent to $1.3 billion. The company was unable to meet sales targets for its new digital audio players, TV sets, cameras, and PlayStation consoles. However, the movie business, boosted by DVD sales of Spider-Man 2 and Seinfeld collections, saw a 12-percent leap in revenue to $1.96 billion in the quarter.

That was the same for Sony before the original came out. They had a huge increase in revenue after the DVD sold a butt-load.

[MichaelMyers]

Spiderman 3 starts filming in 3 months. It's a bit early, but maybe this will make it even better.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Spiderman 3 starts filming in 3 months. It's a bit early, but maybe this will make it even better.

Yeah I heard this also, though I won't believe it until I hear an official word. Though it is never too early to start filming SM3:)

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Yeah I heard this also, though I won't believe it until I hear an official word. Though it is never too early to start filming SM3:)

The sooner the better, although not too soon because I don't want this to suck.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
The sooner the better, althought not too soon because I don't want this to suck.

It would still have the May 3rd 2007 release date so don't worry about that, but this seems really soon to start filming. I mean they are still working on the script.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
It would still have the May 3rd 2007 release date so don't worry about that, but this seems really soon to start filming. I mean they are still working on the script.

I know, I'd think that they'd want to spend a lot more time on the script than they have so far to make sure it is really good.

[NCamp]

What was Peter and Harrys first meeting like? Do tell!

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by NCamp
What was Peter and Harrys first meeting like? Do tell!

? We don't know, the script is still be worked on.

[FranchiseHatesMe]

Who here besides me noticed that the pizza was just a reg slice and not a deep dish? I noticed the shit the first time seeing the movie.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by icparenumber1
Who here besides me noticed that the pizza was just a reg slice and not a deep dish? I noticed the shit the first time seeing the movie.

Isn't it supposed to be? They are in NY, they have regular slice pizza, Chicago has the Deep Dish Pizza.

[Ringu]

In case anyone cares Stan Lee will be on 60 Minutes II on Wednesday.

[Phatmaster2k8]

No ICP is right the pizza place had a banner that said Deep Dish Pizza. But no biggy, still is my favorite movie of all time.

Also another scooper chimed in that he also talked to JK Simmons about the script. Simmons supposly said that the four major characters (Peter, MJ, Harry, and major villian) will get the script first before everybody else. I don't know about you but this sounds kind of weird, is Simmons handing out flyers or something about the script?

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
No ICP is right the pizza place had a banner that said Deep Dish Pizza. But no biggy, still is my favorite movie of all time.

Also another scooper chimed in that he also talked to JK Simmons about the script. Simmons supposly said that the four major characters (Peter, MJ, Harry, and major villian) will get the script first before everybody else. I don't know about you but this sounds kind of weird, is Simmons handing out flyers or something about the script?

Ohm. must've overlooked that, if that's the case I can't watch this movie anymore, it is ruined for me now.:rolleyes: Just kidding, wow that actually hurt me to say.

I dunno why they are getting the scripts first, I don't see why it would matter who got the script first though.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
Ohm. must've overlooked that, if that's the case I can't watch this movie anymore, it is ruined for me now.:rolleyes: Just kidding, wow that actually hurt me to say.

I dunno why they are getting the scripts first, I don't see why it would matter who got the script first though.

They said it was to guard aganist spoilers getting out.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
They said it was to guard aganist spoilers getting out.

Ahh, I see. I guess that's smart, I know I don't want ANYTHING spoiled for me.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Well Raimi and Co. have finally decided on a villian, and no he won't tell us what it is but nontheless I trust it is the right villain for the movie. Here is what he had to say:

"We wanted to have a villain not only who would fulfill the character needs but somebody who could entertain the audience on a visceral level and provide great visuals, something we haven't seen before, and create a real challenge and great foe for Spider-Man and his unique spidery, spider-like powers."

To me that sounds like nobody other then Venom himself, but we shall see. Sam also said they will present the villain in a way that will please the fans.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Well Raimi and Co. have finally decided on a villian, and no he won't tell us what it is but nontheless I trust it is the right villain for the movie. Here is what he had to say:

"We wanted to have a villain not only who would fulfill the character needs but somebody who could entertain the audience on a visceral level and provide great visuals, something we haven't seen before, and create a real challenge and great foe for Spider-Man and his unique spidery, spider-like powers."

To me that sounds like nobody other then Venom himself, but we shall see. Sam also said they will present the villain in a way that will please the fans.

Cool info, but Sam said he'd never do a SM film with Venom in it, maybe it's someone else like The Lizard.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
To me that sounds like nobody other then Venom himself, but we shall see. Sam also said they will present the villain in a way that will please the fans.

Man,while reading that villain's description I tought exactly the same thing,it fits perfectly with Venom's skills

[Franchise]

I smell Hobgoblin. Or the Reverse Flash. ;)

[TheShape66]

I also agree that based on the description of the villan, it fits Venom to a T...but watch Raimi throw us a curve and give us Hydroman or Shocker or perhaps even Vulture or Jackal ;)

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Franchise
I smell Hobgoblin.

I don't think so,Hob is too similar to the Green Goblin (he uses Osborne's serum and all his gadgets) and doesn't fit that kind of description

[Cruel Intentions]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
No ICP is right the pizza place had a banner that said Deep Dish Pizza. But no biggy, still is my favorite movie of all time.

Also another scooper chimed in that he also talked to JK Simmons about the script. Simmons supposly said that the four major characters (Peter, MJ, Harry, and major villian) will get the script first before everybody else. I don't know about you but this sounds kind of weird, is Simmons handing out flyers or something about the script?

HAHA didn't think a little error would get in the way from you loving the movie.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Franchise
I smell Hobgoblin.

Oh that's what it was, I thought it was Jack Daniel's.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Whoever it is, it is going to kick ass.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Whoever it is, it is going to kick ass.

Hell yeah it will, why wouldn't it?

[Phatmaster2k8]

In a recent interview with Superhero Hype.com Same Raimi cofirmed that they are starting shooting next month. All it really is are test shots, from the FX to CGI shots.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
In a recent interview with Superhero Hype.com Same Raimi cofirmed that they are starting shooting next month. All it really is are test shots, from the FX to CGI shots.

Yeah but at least it's something.

[Jason Voorhees]

I bought Ultimate Spiderman on Wednesday and I thought it was a great start to the Hobgoblin arc. I'm also enjoying the story that's going on in Amazing Spiderman. Looks like a good villain is being made IMO.

[NCamp]

Id wet myself if Venom was the next Villain. Im hoping they dont go obvious and turn Harry into the Hobgoblin or a second green goblin. Lizard is possible. They did show extra attention to Doc. Conner in SM2, and the fact that he only had one arm as he was walking away. Notice how they stayed with the shot for awhile? Heres to venom though!

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by NCamp
Id wet myself if Venom was the next Villain. Im hoping they dont go obvious and turn Harry into the Hobgoblin or a second green goblin. Lizard is possible. They did show extra attention to Doc. Conner in SM2, and the fact that he only had one arm as he was walking away. Notice how they stayed with the shot for awhile? Heres to venom though!

The reason I am not saying The Lizard is only because Sam talked about using brand new CGI and FX to help create the villain. The Lizard is just a humanized reptile, no CGI needed there. Now with Venom Eddie is seperated between the alien symbiote and himself with the suit flying all about grabbing stuff and wrapping around stuff, not to mention come off when hit and then go back. A lot of special effect shots would be used there.

It could also be what Tobey was saying right after SM2 came out. He was talking about the Sandman being a favorite villain of his and would of like him in the next one. The Sandman is a really cool villain and be a treat to see what they could do with CGI to help create him. The only flaw to Sandman is that it is very simple to beat him, they would have to drag the movie on. It only takes water to stop the Sandman in his tracks.

[Dead Alive]

did you all not think that dr octavias was like a really cool villain?

[NCamp]

As long as its not Harry as the hobgoblin or green goblin #2, Ill be ok with it. Im not familiar with Sandman so I dont know how he would fare on his own.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by NCamp
As long as its not Harry as the hobgoblin or green goblin #2, Ill be ok with it. Im not familiar with Sandman so I dont know how he would fare on his own.
Harry will be the Green Goblin. Thats guaranteed already. They are having 2-3 bad guys in the next movie. It will probably end up being Green Goblin, Lizard, and Vulture though. Thats what he was hinting at when they first mentioned villians for number 3. I'd like to see Green Goblin, Lizard, and Venom or the sinister six.

[NCamp]

How can they have that many Villians in one movie? To tell a good story it would need to be like 4 hours long. And you never know. Harry could resist his fathers will and not go bad.

[Slab]

Too many villains are what killed the Batman franchise. This is what Spiderman needs to avoid, and I'm sure Raimi knows that.

As for who the villain will be in 3, I'm hoping it isn't Harry. I've seen the Goblin already, and Spidey has a HUGE rogues gallery. Pick someone else.

[NCamp]

Originally posted by The Slab
Too many villains are what killed the Batman franchise. This is what Spiderman needs to avoid, and I'm sure Raimi knows that.

As for who the villain will be in 3, I'm hoping it isn't Harry. I've seen the Goblin already, and Spidey has a HUGE rogues gallery. Pick someone else.

Yeah thats what Im saying. After the end of 2 Harry would be too obvious. It would just be 1 all over again. If they go with Venom AND make it good, this movie will be HUGE!

[Phatmaster2k8]

What I wouldn't mind seeing is a villain right in the starting, kind of like Batman Forever with Two-Face and have Peter fighting them. Maybe the Shocker or something to use up time, then have the main villain make their entrance when Shocker (whoever) is captured and arrested. That way you can have two villains in the movie and not do what it did to the Batman franchise.

To fully evolve the Venom character (if they would follow the comic's origin) you need to drag it on through two movies or so. Have us be introduced to Eddie Brock in SM3, and then at the end have him gain a hatred of Spidey kinda like Harry in the first one.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
What I wouldn't mind seeing is a villain right in the starting, kind of like Batman Forever with Two-Face and have Peter fighting them. Maybe the Shocker or something to use up time, then have the main villain make their entrance when Shocker (whoever) is captured and arrested. That way you can have two villains in the movie and not do what it did to the Batman franchise.

To fully evolve the Venom character (if they would follow the comic's origin) you need to drag it on through two movies or so. Have us be introduced to Eddie Brock in SM3, and then at the end have him gain a hatred of Spidey kinda like Harry in the first one.
That sounds good, but Harry will definitely be the Green Goblin in SM3. I like your Eddie Brock story though. Maybe Harry falls in the portal with Mary Jane like in the tv series early in the movie though. This way they can have a main villian and introduce Eddie Brock the same way you described and Venom will be the villian of SM4.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
That sounds good, but Harry will definitely be the Green Goblin in SM3. I like your Eddie Brock story though. Maybe Harry falls in the portal with Mary Jane like in the tv series early in the movie though. This way they can have a main villian and introduce Eddie Brock the same way you described and Venom will be the villian of SM4.

Believe me, there won't be any portals in the movies;)

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Believe me, there won't be any portals in the movies;)
Well all I know is that I want Mary Jane dead early in the movie. I don't care how or for what reason. I just don't like her at all.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Well all I know is that I want Mary Jane dead early in the movie. I don't care how or for what reason. I just don't like her at all.

HAHA, well believe me that won't happen ethier.

[NCamp]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
That sounds good, but Harry will definitely be the Green Goblin in SM3. I like your Eddie Brock story though. Maybe Harry falls in the portal with Mary Jane like in the tv series early in the movie though. This way they can have a main villian and introduce Eddie Brock the same way you described and Venom will be the villian of SM4.

Are you honetly saying that you think having them redo a villain will make for a good movie. Cause Im not see it you. It would be the same special effects all over again. And apparently they are using new CGI that they havent used before....so how does Goblin factor in?

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by NCamp
Are you honetly saying that you think having them redo a villain will make for a good movie. Cause Im not see it you. It would be the same special effects all over again. And apparently they are using new CGI that they havent used before....so how does Goblin factor in?
I'm not saying I want it but they already went down the path of Harry seeing the Green Goblin stuff. It would be retarded if they went in the opposite direction. If they were never to go in that direction they should have never shown him finding the stuff.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I'm not saying I want it but they already went down the path of Harry seeing the Green Goblin stuff. It would be retarded if they went in the opposite direction. If they were never to go in that direction they should have never shown him finding the stuff.

Theres other reasons why he might have found that stuff. They can be setting up his comming to terms with his fathers past. Showing him finding the goblins equipment doesnt necessarily mean they are heading into a new goblin direction.

In the words of Gerrizzle D: Cheers.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
Showing him finding the goblins equipment doesnt necessarily mean they are heading into a new goblin direction.

yes,it doesn't necessarily means that but you will agree there are good chances it does

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth
yes,it doesn't necessarily means that but you will agree there are good chances it does

Oh yeah, its a good chance. But that would be jumping to conclusions. I'll just say, we'll have to wait and see.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
Oh yeah, its a good chance. But that would be jumping to conclusions. I'll just say, we'll have to wait and see.

Yeah, Harry knows why his father was killed. It wasn't in vain like he thought it was.

[NCamp]

Harry might now understand why he was killed. Cause he was bad. Maybe that will bring him closer to peter again and reunite the friendship. That could make him be an allie with Spiderman now. Yeah I know....probably wont happen. But there are other directions that could take with it.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by NCamp
Harry might now understand why he was killed. Cause he was bad. Maybe that will bring him closer to peter again and reunite the friendship. That could make him be an allie with Spiderman now. Yeah I know....probably wont happen. But there are other directions that could take with it.

In the comics he first turns bad and becomes the Green Goblin, and injects the serum. Later on Peter makes him remember his values (sorta like Ock) and turns on his Father's plan (which was for him to become the GG2). So in the comics Norman hates Harry for "being weak." But the serum kept on messing with his head so Harry finally commits suicide.

[NCamp]

Seeing John Franco committ suicide might be a bit much. Cause he kicks ass. I mean ill be all for the temp. evilness. Just as long as he is not the MAIN villain in the film. Cause as I said before, it would seem just like Spiderman one all over again, but with a different actor playing green goblin.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by NCamp
Seeing John Franco committ suicide might be a bit much. Cause he kicks ass. I mean ill be all for the temp. evilness. Just as long as he is not the MAIN villain in the film. Cause as I said before, it would seem just like Spiderman one all over again, but with a different actor playing green goblin.

There is a lot you can do to change SM3 around to make it different, for example you could use Hobgoblin rather then another Green Goblin (like the Ultimate line is doing) and then use the huge goblin glider for a bigger and better fight. Also the story would be completely different then the crazy pyschopath.

[NCamp]

I just wish theyd up and let something leak already. Speculation is killer.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by NCamp
I just wish theyd up and let something leak already. Speculation is killer.

Yeah but that's what makes it fun, all of us here speculating on what we think might/should/what we want to happen. It's fun and SM3 might be the last one it might be the last time to do it, kind of like th Star Wars franchise.

Anyways what you said earlier about Harry not being evil b/c he saw his father was bad is exactly what I was thinking.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Nothing will be leaked, believe me they did it with SM2 they will do it with SM3.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Nothing will be leaked, believe me they did it with SM2 they will do it with SM3.

Exactly, this is one of the biggest movies (franchises) ever, they sure as hell aren't going to leak anything out that doesn't need to be which is actually fine by me 'cause I don't want anything spoiled.

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Ringu
Anyways what you said earlier about Harry not being evil b/c he saw his father was bad is exactly what I was thinking.

The movie series is taking (not casually) the same comics' direction: Harry's struggle. He knows his father was a villain and Peter is his friend but he can't help of thinking about his father murdered by Peter (Harry knows Norman was the Green Goblin but he still doesn't know that his death was an "accident" and still believes Spider-Man killed Norman)

Harry will start to have a "double personality" and so ,most likely, we'll have on one hand Harry treating Peter like an old friend and on the other hand the Green Goblin looking for revenge

[NCamp]

Originally posted by Creepingmouth

Harry will start to have a "double personality" and so ,most likely, we'll have on one hand Harry treating Peter like an old friend and on the other hand the Green Goblin looking for revenge

Isnt that exaclty how Norman Osbourne was? Same thing to me.

[MichaelMyers]

It sucks that we have to wait 2 years for this to come out. But the time will fly by and before we know it, we will be waiting for Spiderman 4.

[NCamp]

Are they doing a 4th? I thought they werent planning on going past 3. Or atleast Toby wasnt.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by NCamp
Are they doing a 4th? I thought they werent planning on going past 3. Or atleast Toby wasnt.
I know Raimi wants to keep doing them until they cover everything. Not sure about Toby though.

[fanatic986]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I know Raimi wants to keep doing them until they cover everything. Not sure about Toby though.


I hope they go past three. There is so much to cover, I just hope the series doesn't get limp.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by fanatic986
I hope they go past three. There is so much to cover, I just hope the series doesn't get limp.
I heard that he was thinking of putting Black Cat into the series soon. Maybe she will be in Spiderman 3 and Peter will focus on her more than Mary Jane. Kirsten Dunst sucks. The Lizard seems like the best choice for villain in SM3. Dr. Connor was introduced already in SM2 so he has a good chance of being the villain.

[NCamp]

Dont get me wrong I want more. That way they can make a great intro for Venom. Who knows Jake Gyllenhol(sp) was up for #2 when Toby was giving them problems. Could be the next spiderman after 3

[Ringu]

Originally posted by fanatic986
I hope they go past three. There is so much to cover, I just hope the series doesn't get limp.

Well if it does that's what we have Viagra and Cialis for. Sorry I had too.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by NCamp
Dont get me wrong I want more. That way they can make a great intro for Venom. Who knows Jake Gyllenhol(sp) was up for #2 when Toby was giving them problems. Could be the next spiderman after 3
I don't want to see a bunch of different actors play Spiderman like they did in the Batman series. I say, its Toby or no one. I don't like it when they can't get the original actors for the next movies in the series.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I don't want to see a bunch of different actors play Spiderman like they did in the Batman series. I say, its Toby or no one. I don't like it when they can't get the original actors for the next movies in the series.

Same here, I hate when they do that, if they can't do it right don't do it at all.

[NCamp]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I don't want to see a bunch of different actors play Spiderman like they did in the Batman series. I say, its Toby or no one. I don't like it when they can't get the original actors for the next movies in the series.

Me too. But if its anyone else Id say Jake. He resembles Toby a bit. Not really, but close enough. He could have pulled it off if he gotten it in the first place. So if Toby wont do more, Im sure Jake wouldnt mind stepping into a blockbuster.

[fanatic986]

Originally posted by NCamp
Me too. But if its anyone else Id say Jake. He resembles Toby a bit. Not really, but close enough. He could have pulled it off if he gotten it in the first place. So if Toby wont do more, Im sure Jake wouldnt mind stepping into a blockbuster.

I can't stand Jake Gyllenhall. He has this empty confused look on his face all the time, and he seems really boring.

[fanatic986]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I heard that he was thinking of putting Black Cat into the series soon. Maybe she will be in Spiderman 3 and Peter will focus on her more than Mary Jane. Kirsten Dunst sucks. The Lizard seems like the best choice for villain in SM3. Dr. Connor was introduced already in SM2 so he has a good chance of being the villain.

I would love to see Felicia Hardy (aka Black Cat) introduced. But they would really have to stay away from Catwoman comparisons, espescially after last years Halle Berry flop.
I think a blonde Eliza Dushku would be a good actress to cast. Or Reese Witherspoon, I think she could pull it off.

[NCamp]

Originally posted by fanatic986
I can't stand Jake Gyllenhall. He has this empty confused look on his face all the time, and he seems really boring.

Hes an actor...im sure he can act anyway they tell him to. Besides...after seeing Donnie Darko, hes a great actor. He could do a superhero. And like I said, they were looking at him when they were having problems with Toby before #2.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Raimi's contract will end after the 3rd movie but if Sam is up to a forth he said he would do it. But he also said he won't work without the same actors and staff.

[NCamp]

So for this film, casting will pretty much be the same. The only character they have talked about, but never shown is Brock. Who do you think would be good to play him and later Venom, if they so choose to go down that road?

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by NCamp
So for this film, casting will pretty much be the same. The only character they have talked about, but never shown is Brock. Who do you think would be good to play him and later Venom, if they so choose to go down that road?

It could be anybody. I wouldn't mind them getting a no name actor to play Brock though, though Alfred Molina wasn't a huge blockbuster actor ethier.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by fanatic986
I think a blonde Eliza Dushku would be a good actress to cast. .
She was the first one mentioned for the part.

[NCamp]

Eliza would definately get my vote to become black cat. She needs to be in more movies.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Yeah the Black Cat wouldn't be a bad move. Eliza Dushku first tried out for the part of Mary Jane, of course she didn't get it but the producers told her she might be in *later* movies;)

[NCamp]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Yeah the Black Cat wouldn't be a bad move. Eliza Dushku first tried out for the part of Mary Jane, of course she didn't get it but the producers told her she might be in *later* movies;)

Im glad she didnt. MJ is a redhead. I wouldnt want to see Eliza dyed red. Shes got the hot brunette thing going.

[fanatic986]

It's funny...I just came up with Dushku off the top of my head. Funny thats she was/is considered already for the movie series.:)

Do you guys think she should keep her brunette locks or go blonde like Jessica Alba did for Fantastic 4?

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by fanatic986
It's funny...I just came up with Dushku off the top of my head. Funny thats she was/is considered already for the movie series.:)

Do you guys think she should keep her brunette locks or go blonde like Jessica Alba did for Fantastic 4?

Black Cat has white hair, so she would dye it white.

[fanatic986]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Black Cat has white hair, so she would dye it white.


I thought Felicia Hardy was blonde. But her costume had white hair. Like a wig.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by fanatic986
I thought Felicia Hardy was blonde. But her costume had white hair. Like a wig.

Might be right, I really don't know.

[fanatic986]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Might be right, I really don't know.

I'm pretty sure...I could be wrong tho:)

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by fanatic986
I'm pretty sure...I could be wrong tho:)

She's blonde, she puts on the outfit and her hair magically turns to white. Though, thats just from the cartoon. I'm clueless about the comic version of Felicia.

[NCamp]

Originally posted by fanatic986
It's funny...I just came up with Dushku off the top of my head. Funny thats she was/is considered already for the movie series.:)

Do you guys think she should keep her brunette locks or go blonde like Jessica Alba did for Fantastic 4?

If she can pull off blonde even half as well as Alba can she will be gorgeous. It would be an interesting look though.

[Phatmaster2k8]

I posted this in the Smallville thread but I swear an actor in the last episode could fit the bill as Eddie Brock/Venom so nicely. I'm pretty sure his name is Chris Carmack which he also stars in The OC every week. He is a little yonger then the Brock from the comics but he has the face, the hair, and the build all down right. He would be my pick as Venom in any future Spidey movies.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Ummm quite possibly the greatest article I have read.....



"February 03, 2005 - Sam Raimi is hard at work on the script for Spider-Man 3 with the help of his brother Ted. The last time I spoke with Raimi, at the press day for The Grudge, he said that, at his current stage in the writing process, he wanted to let Peter Parker's journey determine who the villain would be. Just this week, Raimi has been quoted in interviews across the Web as saying that he has figured out who the villain would be, but couldn't reveal it just yet.


After reading the rumors, I figured who better to ask than the man himself? Earlier today, at the press day for the film Boogeyman, a production of Sam Raimi and Rob Tapert's Ghost House Pictures, both men were on hand to promote the film and, as might be expected, try their best to deflect the impending barrage of Spider-Man 3 villain questions.

As some journalists lacked a bit of subtlety, the Spider-Man 3 villain question came up almost immediately for Raimi: "Actually, I'm not allowed to say about the villains or the heroes or the storylines or themes of the picture yet. I think Sony wants to make their own presentation, and not for probably like a year, when it gets [closer] to the release of the picture. I think they want to keep it quiet and at some point in the future make a proper presentation, probably with an illustration or a mock-up of the character when they cast him, the name of the character… Or her," Raimi laughs, trying to maintain the illusion of who the character might be. (Laughs) "Tricky, that one. I'm actually just not at liberty to say, but I'm sure that they will make that presentation whenever they determine the time."

Noting that Raimi is in good spirits about the whole rumor issue, another journalist suggests that Raimi simply give a little wink if Venom will be the villain.

Raimi laughs and jokingly winks at us. "There's something in my eye." (Laughs)

Tapert fires back with a question of his own: "Can I ask a question back? Why does everybody want Venom in it? I wanted to just know as an outsider, why, because when we walked in today, somebody walked up and said, 'We're so excited Venom's in it,' and then she said that some Internet site ran something today."

Being a room full of Internet geeks, myself included, we preceded to recount to Raimi and Tapert why we thought Venom was such a cool villain and how he would fit perfectly into the film series.

"Yeah, he can shoot webs and stick to walls," Raimi says. "I think he can look like [different people]… Yeah, there's different origins if I can remember them right. I think, I might be getting confused, but I believe that one is a gift in outer space, for some reason he's concerned about keeping his secret identity even there, but they give him a suit, but isn't that an alternate version of it, or am I getting that confused with something else?"



-Marvel Comics



Another journalist recounts the plot of a Venom story involving Jameson's son. "Yes," Raimi agrees. "That's what I'm wondering. I thought he brings back something that makes Spider-Man, or maybe I'm thinking of the animation I saw. Yeah, you know, there's so many versions of it, I'm thinking of an animated story that that happens in."

As Raimi and Tapert's time ran short, the Venom side talk continued as they left the room. Admittedly, neither would officially confirm the rumors, but the joking attitude and surprising amount of information Raimi seemed to have about Venom certainly suggest a strong likelihood. We'll keep you posted for an official word, but for now, you be the judge."

[Ringu]

^^^Very cool find man, it's not a whole lot but at least it's something for now.

[The New Guy]

Thanks for the aritcle! Even though I would much rather see a different villian than Venom, at least it's something.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that incase you can give a shit about the Oscars.....Spider-Man 2 won a Acadamy Award for Visual Effects;)

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that incase you can give a shit about the Oscars.....Spider-Man 2 won a Acadamy Award for Visual Effects;)

I know it did, it should've won for Bext Picture IMO (even though it wasn't nominated:(). At least it won something though, I can tell you one thing though, it didn't win for those helicopters at the end.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
I know it did, it should've won for Bext Picture IMO (even though it wasn't nominated:(). At least it won something though, I can tell you one thing though, it didn't win for those helicopters at the end.

HAHAHAHA, I will quote my favorite movie critic........"Why in the hell were those helicopters needed at the end?"- Joblo

[Creepingmouth]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that incase you can give a shit about the Oscars.....Spider-Man 2 won a Acadamy Award for Visual Effects;)

better than nothing

[NCamp]

Awesome article, thanks for the post Matty. It WOULD kick ass if Venom was in it. I think its an agreement by all that Venom is the best spidey villain.

[The New Guy]

Yeah, Spider-Man 2 should have taken home best picture, but it didn't. It definitely deserved the Visual Effects Oscar. It is one of the best looking films I have ever seen, if not THE best looking.

[Chomp_on_this]

What this crap I have been hearing about Raimi working on a Spider-man 2.5 DVD?

LAME

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Chomp_on_this
What this crap I have been hearing about Raimi working on a Spider-man 2.5 DVD?

LAME

Where did you hear this? I am quite interested....

[Chomp_on_this]

It was the intro page to an article I was reading with an interview with Bruce Campbell about his thoughts on Spider-man 3. He talks about how he defeated Spider-man in both films. HA!


Here it is: http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=2685

[NCamp]

Originally posted by The New Guy
Yeah, Spider-Man 2 should have taken home best picture, but it didn't. It definitely deserved the Visual Effects Oscar. It is one of the best looking films I have ever seen, if not THE best looking.

Best picture? I really doubt that. It wasnt in the same league as the ones this year. BUt yeah it deserved visual effects.

[The New Guy]

Originally posted by NCamp
Best picture? I really doubt that. It wasnt in the same league as the ones this year. BUt yeah it deserved visual effects.

I respect your opinion. Just sayin that even though The Aviator was good (and how Million Dollar Baby managed to beat it for the Best Picture I'll never know) but I personally just think Spider-Man 2 was above and beyond ALL movies in 2004. Just my opinion though.

[fanatic986]

Originally posted by The New Guy
I respect your opinion. Just sayin that even though The Aviator was good (and how Million Dollar Baby managed to beat it for the Best Picture I'll never know) but I personally just think Spider-Man 2 was above and beyond ALL movies in 2004. Just my opinion though.

But you also think its the best movie of all time. :confused:

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Where did you hear this? I am quite interested....

You would be, what kind of person are you?;)


I'm interested too (big shock there people)...:)

[The New Guy]

Originally posted by fanatic986
But you also think its the best movie of all time. :confused:

Yeah that's what I think.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Now there is a difference (at least to me) between my favorite movie and my pick for the greatest movie ever made. Spider-Man 2 is my favorite movie ever made because I love just watching it and will always enjoy every second of the film. The greatest movies of all time change the way movie have seen and will be seen. To me that is a litte different then a favorite movie.

[MichaelMyers]

Here's word of Black Cat being in Spiderman 3. But it says as a villian. That must be wrong because she's not a villian.
Spiderman 3 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8815)

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Now there is a difference (at least to me) between my favorite movie and my pick for the greatest movie ever made. Spider-Man 2 is my favorite movie ever made because I love just watching it and will always enjoy every second of the film. The greatest movies of all time change the way movie have seen and will be seen. To me that is a litte different then a favorite movie.

I agree, SM2 is MY (as in my own opinion) favorite movie ever, and one of the greatest movies ever that have changed cinema is the original Star Wars.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Here's word of Black Cat being in Spiderman 3. But it says as a villian. That must be wrong because she's not a villian.
Spiderman 3 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8815)

What Black Cat do you know? :p

[Ringu]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
What Black Cat do you know? :p

The hot one.:D

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
I agree, SM2 is MY (as in my own opinion) favorite movie ever, and one of the greatest movies ever that have changed cinema is the original Star Wars.

Holy shit, I can't believe you just said that Ring man. I also believe Star Wars changed cinema forever being what I think is the greatest movie ever.....are you sure we weren't cloned or something?

But the Black Cat news is cool, and MM, Cat is a villain. Think of Catwoman, same way. She's bad, but has good morals. I doubt now that Chloë Sevigny spilled the beans on Cat that she's gonna get the part:rolleyes:

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Holy shit, I can't believe you just said that Ring man. I also believe Star Wars changed cinema forever being what I think is the greatest movie ever.....are you sure we weren't cloned or something?

But the Black Cat news is cool, and MM, Cat is a villain. Think of Catwoman, same way. She's bad, but has good morals. I doubt now that Chloë Sevigny spilled the beans on Cat that she's gonna get the part:rolleyes:

Wow, that's weird, but cool. I do find it odd that we share alot of the same opinions though. It's pretty cool though. We weren't cloned....or were we?:confused:;)

I don't know how good of a Villain Black Cat will be, I mean the other ones (GG and Doc Ock) were supervillains and Black Cat seems to be pretty normal.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
Wow, that's weird, but cool. I do find it odd that we share alot of the same opinions though. It's pretty cool though. We weren't cloned....or were we?:confused:;)

I don't know how good of a Villain Black Cat will be, I mean the other ones (GG and Doc Ock) were supervillains and Black Cat seems to be pretty normal.

LOL, so funny we are in the Spidey thread....can you say Peter and Ben?

Meh, I bet they are going the SM2 game way with Hardy starts out as a robber then heads the other way. Above all that Black Cat has no superpowers.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
LOL, so funny we are in the Spidey thread....can you say Peter and Ben?

Meh, I bet they are going the SM2 game way with Hardy starts out as a robber then heads the other way. Above all that Black Cat has no superpowers.

Endurence and orgasmic abilities are superpowers you know. ;) Besides, she's like Cap. A. Would you call him a poser hero? :)

[Ringu]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
Endurence and orgasmic abilities are superpowers you know. ;) Besides, she's like Cap. A. Would you call him a poser hero? :)

Then I must be a spuerhero then:p.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
Endurence and orgasmic abilities are superpowers you know. ;) Besides, she's like Cap. A. Would you call him a poser hero? :)

In the early comics (when she is first introduced) she has zero powers whatsoever. It is for this reason she is afraid to hang with Spider-Man because she is afraid he would find out. It is not until later she makes a pact with Kingpin to give her powers.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
In the early comics (when she is first introduced) she has zero powers whatsoever. It is for this reason she is afraid to hang with Spider-Man because she is afraid he would find out. It is not until later she makes a pact with Kingpin to give her powers.

Aw, well I'm sure that wouldnt be the case in the movie, if indeed she is cast. But I would like Black Cat as the villian, co-villian. She's basically normal, she's a friend of Peters, and she's a woman.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
Aw, well I'm sure that wouldnt be the case in the movie, if indeed she is cast. But I would like Black Cat as the villian, co-villian. She's basically normal, she's a friend of Peters, and she's a woman.

No Co-Villains, that's what killed the Batman Franchise and I will not let that happen to the Spider-Man one. This trilogy will have no faults, no weak movies, it will be strong all the way through.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
No Co-Villains, that's what killed the Batman Franchise and I will not let that happen to the Spider-Man one. This trilogy will have no faults, no weak movies, it will be strong all the way through.

Don't worry, I can see what their doing already Ring man. Think Spider-Man 2 the game.....

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by Ringu
No Co-Villains, that's what killed the Batman Franchise and I will not let that happen to the Spider-Man one. This trilogy will have no faults, no weak movies, it will be strong all the way through.

Well obviously Peter is no millionare and he's not dating a supermodel. I could really see dark graphic novel stuff happening here. She has problems, Peter tries to help and interferes. We see her breakdown of the double life,identity. Peter see's himself alittle stronger after seeing how un-ordinary his problems were. I'm just pulling that out of nowhere but you see what I mean? Add the emotion, and layer in acting and drama.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Don't worry, I can see what their doing already Ring man. Think Spider-Man 2 the game.....

Oh, you mean like have her be a sidekick type thing, neither good nor evil, if their doing that then that's ok but no Batman stuff.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
he's not dating a supermodel.

Errrr, actually he is......:)

But I mean in the starting Felica could be bad, but meanwhile fighting you could say Venom (Muhahahahahhaha........*clears thoat* sorry) he turns her good.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Errrr, actually he is......:)

But I mean in the starting Felica could be bad, but meanwhile fighting you could say Venom (Muhahahahahhaha........*clears thoat* sorry) he turns her good.

That sounds cartoony, we need melodrama here! I meant real supermodel. You know, Batman and Robin, supermodel...not actress.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
That sounds cartoony, we need melodrama here! I meant real supermodel. You know, Batman and Robin, supermodel...not actress.

You seem to be forgetting that the Batman franchise went straight to hell.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by boogeyman87
That sounds cartoony, we need melodrama here! I meant real supermodel. You know, Batman and Robin, supermodel...not actress.

I know dude, just messin around;) But I know what you mean, Peter is a average guy going through everyday shit and having dark novel stuff wouldn't be too bad.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
I know dude, just messin around;) But I know what you mean, Peter is a average guy going through everyday shit and having dark novel stuff wouldn't be too bad.

Yeah that'd be ok, if done right. I like dark movies, take Star Wars Episode III, that looks awesome, I love the dark tone to it, that's not to say I only like darker movies though.

[boogeyman87]

Or