The Official Wrestling Thread

[NeewollaH]

The coolest thread in the history of the UHMB (minus Outfield's countless threads/polls) has now hit the OHMB. This is the palce for Wrestling News/Rumors/Results/Discussion/etc. etc.

So Unforgiven gave us the end of the Orton Era...hmm. What do you all tink about that?


Oh, and in recent breaking news, Jamie Noble was released/fired from the WWE. I'm not too sorry to see him go, but he was a good competitor.


More news should be on the way..

[atomic dog]

oh i'm all over this thread.



i totally forgot about the ppv this past weekend. but got to see the updates on raw.

so it looks like carmela and kristy are it. but who will win?


and i made this a stinky

[NeewollaH]

Originally posted by atomic dog






so it looks like carmela and kristy are it. but who will win?


and i made this a stinky


A stinky??:p

Well, it looks like it's come down to the two that I figured it would. Who will win? That's a good question. I hope Khristy does, but I'm not so sure that she will. Carmella, as boring as she is, has quite a fan base..

[atomic dog]

yes a stinky. it will smell forever

[Mojo]

You know, I wondered how long it would be until this thread came back. heh

[gerry d]

Personally i think it's an insult to Benoit.They have him drop the title to Orton a month ago only for Orton to drop it to Triple HHH the following month.Triple HHH must have been getting fed up doing the jobs to Benoit.

cheers

[FTL]

HHH just wants to be in the top rankings and break Flair's record. They totally ruined Orton at Unforgiven. Some cheesy ass WCW ending.

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by FTL
HHH just wants to be in the top rankings and break Flair's record. They totally ruined Orton at Unforgiven. Some cheesy ass WCW ending. Yeah, when HHH was announced as the 9 time champ the other night, I was like 'holy shit'. I can't believe he's had it 9 times. I remember the rock had the record for awhile with 7. Hell i'll probably be in 4th year of college before he ever looses it.

[FTL]

Probably has it cause of Blade 3's premier or something. Nothing would look better than showing up with a huge hunk of gold over your shoulder.

[Dchabz]

That's sorta why i stopped watching weekly, because HHH is a douche bag, and is super selfish when it comes to that damn belt. I'm sick of him being the one...I was also pissed when they unmasked Kane. I was hoping he would win the title back when he was super "secretive" cuz he was badass. But that never happened. Idk i'm not liking raw now that it has no competition.

[atomic dog]

i hope this run of hhh isn't too long like the last time.

[Dchabz]

Originally posted by atomic dog
i hope this run of hhh isn't too long like the last time.


Same here, someone deserving needs to get the title. Personally i liked Benoit...i think he should win it back, or HBK!! :)

[atomic dog]

i was shocked to see shelton back.

[Dchabz]

Originally posted by atomic dog
i was shocked to see shelton back.


what happened to him, i haven' tbeen following :( .

[FTL]

He broke his hand and was out of action for weeks. He just made his long awaited return Monday, back full time.

[NeewollaH]

with a new gimmick...


You can refer to him as Mr. Benjamin now...

That promo was ridiculous..

[FTL]

Mr. Benjamin, hoot and a holla 'in, they ain't no stoppin' me now.

[NeewollaH]

Heres a rumor I think we'll all get a kick out of:

HHH furious at Diva Search?


...'Viewed as one of the few moments in the diva search that fans considered memorable, the recent diva segment in which the four finalists cursed each other out is still a topic of discussion backstage, reports PWTorch.com's Newsletter.

The latest word is that Triple H, who is allegedly not a big fan of the competition, was one of the few backstage to not laugh the segment off. Conflicting backstage reports, likely depending on their opinion of HHH, cite a number of reasons for HHH's frustration. One theory is that HHH felt that raunchy segments do not keep the serious nature of wrestling, however, many backstage feel that HHH might have been looking out for himself and other RAW wrestlers with the comments, in that the edgy nature of the segment made most heels on RAW look "lame" in comparison.

Apparently, a source quotes HHH as saying, "So now it's okay to curse? In that case, I'm going to call Randy Orton a c---sucker on next week's show."...

Rumor courtesy of www.nodq.com

[jmb_052]

I used to like trips when it was suddly obvious that HE is the star, but with him needing the belt so much, i cant styand him.

[FranchiseHatesMe]

I used to love wrestling so much but it just has gotten to be way too boring. When WCW and WWF merged and they did the roster split it just killed all of the fun out of it.

[Dchabz]

i agree a million percent, it was fun entertainment, until there's no competition left. now they do w/e the hell they want. and it sucks.

[jmb_052]

Well tickets for smackdown go on sale this saturday, and since ive never seen a smackdown show, me and 7 other people are getting tickets, hopefully great seats.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by jmb_052
Well tickets for smackdown go on sale this saturday, and since ive never seen a smackdown show, me and 7 other people are getting tickets, hopefully great seats.

Dont get your hopes up, that the show will be good...:mad:

[atomic dog]

so what's this deal with big show and eddie?

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by atomic dog
so what's this deal with big show and eddie?


I was about to asked the same thing...

[gerry d]

According to www.rajahwwf.com

Jamie Noble has been released from the WWE & 2 ex WWF Superstars returned at the Smackdown Taping.

cheers

[NeewollaH]

Yep, Viscera and Gangrel made their returns last night on SD! That's pretty....fucking weird.

[atomic dog]

i would like to see a reunion of the brood.

[NeewollaH]

They should make a new coporate ministry, with JBL and Undertaker as co-leaders. As horrible as that sounds, I think it'd be watchable, and certainly entertaining.

[TheShape66]

YES!!!! I'm glad this thread survived!!!!

Now onto the Diva Contest....If you don't think it's fixed for Carmella to win, raise your hand so I can walk by and smack you!! I really wish Christy would win. Still, I did like this past week's segment when they got to smack the hell out of Coach.

Good to see Big Slow back....yes, you read that right. Smackdown needed something, or someone, to kick it in gear. If they would ever push Big Show correctly, he could be big. I think they started it off right by having him destroy everyone last week...but knowing WWE, they'll blow it.

They definately took the belt off of Orton too soon. Some people may say that having Orton chase after the belt will be better than having HHH go after Orton, but thats crap. Orton should have been allowed to hold onto the belt to at least Survivor Series, maybe Royal Rumble.

Oh...and if you haven't heard the rumor. The 'blockbuster announcement' from McMahon will be about the Taboo Tuesday PPV, and the fact that the fans will be able to go online and vote for who they want HHH to defend the belt against in the Main Event.

[FTL]

Originally posted by TheShape66
YES!!!! I'm glad this thread survived!!!!

Now onto the Diva Contest....If you don't think it's fixed for Carmella to win, raise your hand so I can walk by and smack you!! I really wish Christy would win.


It is fixed, come on. Christy got in some good 'punches' but when Carmella nails him, he goes down on the first shot? I smell bullshit.

[atomic dog]

explain this ppv...

[jmb_052]

Originally posted by King Sly Joker
Dont get your hopes up, that the show will be good...:mad:

Well, they always try to put on a good show anywhere here in Illinois. The last time i went, it was an 8 man tag match with Evolution vs. Benjamin, Michaels, Benoit, and someone else.

Plus seeing it live is always better than watching it on TV.

[NeewollaH]

Originally posted by TheShape66

Oh...and if you haven't heard the rumor. The 'blockbuster announcement' from McMahon will be about the Taboo Tuesday PPV, and the fact that the fans will be able to go online and vote for who they want HHH to defend the belt against in the Main Event.


I'm totally voting Christian for this. I mean, Christian has the charisma, in ring skills, as well as mic-skills (something that is rather rare these days). I'd like to see this guy get the push. Who do you all want?

[Maxvayne]

Originally posted by NeewollaH
I'm totally voting Christian for this. I mean, Christian has the charisma, in ring skills, as well as mic-skills (something that is rather rare these days). I'd like to see this guy get the push. Who do you all want?


I wouldn't mind seeing that even though I really could care less about Cristian. Alot of these people who have been in the WWE 5+ like Edge and other's need a chance rather then guy's who just come in and win belt's right off (Orton, Lesner,...ect).

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by Maxvayne
I wouldn't mind seeing that even though I really could care less about Cristian. Alot of these people who have been in the WWE 5+ like Edge and other's need a chance rather then guy's who just come in and win belt's right off (Orton, Lesner,...ect).


True True,these so called future of the bussiness.Have been given a belt basicly.Where most who have busted their ass over the years,still get no chance to shine...

[NeewollaH]

ala Chris Benoit....lost in the shuffle..

[jmb_052]

Yes! I got tickets to Smackdown on Sun. Oct. 17 in Rockford. Fifth row in section 4.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by NeewollaH
ala Chris Benoit....lost in the shuffle..

True,but not the only one lost in that deck of cards...

[FranchiseHatesMe]

What i think is really funny is how it looks so boring in person and then on T.V. you hear the whole crowd cheering non stop noting but cheers and everyones into it and then watching it on tv it looks like a complete differnt show. Your like hey what the fuck nobody was cheering during that part of the shit what the hell. WWF(WWE WHATEVER THE FUCK) are great for adding in shit to there shows.

[NeewollaH]

Originally posted by King Sly Joker
True,but not the only one lost in that deck of cards...

The midcard bullshit in the WWE really is tragic. There are so many talented guys in the business that deserve the belt. They just can't seem to move onto 3rd-Gen superstars..

HHH winning back the title is a good example of that. I must've been the only one that actually thought Orton got over..

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by NeewollaH
The midcard bullshit in the WWE really is tragic. There are so many talented guys in the business that deserve the belt. They just can't seem to move onto 3rd-Gen superstars..

HHH winning back the title is a good example of that. I must've been the only one that actually thought Orton got over..

It seems once you hit midcard.Your career is over in WWE...

[FTL]

Originally posted by NeewollaH
I must've been the only one that actually thought Orton got over..

I honestly thought he would go on for 4-5 PPVs or so. And they were building it up towards the end of the main event at Unforgiven, making us really want him to win. But they had to RUIN it so bad by having HHH hit the pedigree on the chair and win it again. Is it just me or did anyone else see the look in Orton's eyes like "this isn't right" as he was rolled over for the 3?

[theoutfieldguy]

Christy will win tomorrow.
Good to see Gangrel back,WWE is finally taking my advice thru those "RAW/SD feedback" forums @WWE.com

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Christy will win tomorrow.
Good to see Gangrel back,WWE is finally taking my advice thru those "RAW/SD feedback" forums @WWE.com

Well why dont you go to Titan Towers and take over the script writting.And fix that mother...;)

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by King Sly Joker
Well why dont you go to Titan Towers and take over the script writting.And fix that mother...;)

I would if I could,believe me.The first thing to do would be an empty arena match between Carmella and Christy.Not just a wrestling match - a legitimate fight.And the winner would be the new Raw Diva.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
I would if I could,believe me.The first thing to do would be an empty arena match between Carmella and Christy.Not just a wrestling match - a legitimate fight.And the winner would be the new Raw Diva. Just a pure scratch eyes pull hair cat fight...;)

[TheShape66]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
I would if I could,believe me.The first thing to do would be an empty arena match between Carmella and Christy.Not just a wrestling match - a legitimate fight.And the winner would be the new Raw Diva.

I LOVE that idea!!!! Quick, shoot an email to McMahon and push the idea before RAW goes on the air!!!!!

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by TheShape66
I LOVE that idea!!!! Quick, shoot an email to McMahon and push the idea before RAW goes on the air!!!!!

Haha.To no-avail.
The fix is in.Carmella is (refrains from typing) gonna win it.She's the only one that has been paid for her appearances on RAW.That itself speaks volumes. I'll call up Christy's agent soon,though.:D

[TheShape66]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
I'll call up Christy's agent soon,though.:D

We could make her an offer to become the OHMB Diva...

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by TheShape66
We could make her an offer to become the OHMB Diva...

Hell yeah.She seems like the type to enjoy a good scary movie.

[FTL]

Betting that if Carmella indeed does win (which I don't want her to), that the place rocks with "Christy!" chants.

[theoutfieldguy]

Hell the fuck yeah.Christy like a motherfucker!

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Hell the fuck yeah.Christy like a motherfucker!

Was there really any doubt...:p

[theoutfieldguy]

Dayamn.Christy's sister is foine :D

http://christyhemme.com/2knees.jpg

[theoutfieldguy]

http://christyhemme.com/9piling.jpg

[FranchiseHatesMe]

I wanna do something but i dont feel like being the first one ever banned from the new board so im just gonna keep my mouth shut.

[FTL]

Got to pick my jaw up off the floor.

[MichaelMyers]

Orton and Cena are WWE.

[MichaelMyers]

Nice Pictures by the way.

[myers316]

Raw really pissed me off last night. All last week I was excited about Vince making a major announcement. I thought it would be something that might start putting the company on the right track but instead it was just a damn PPV. I think they need to end the roster split, get more serious storylines (Lita Kane baby sucks big time), have less ppv's, get a new set design, have Vince on more often, have matches that have satisfying endings, go back to only having a Heavyweight champ, Intercontinental, and tag team, and also womens champ, drop everything else. There are too many belts floating around that mean nothing. Also fans love nostalgia, bring back some stars of the past now and then.

[NeewollaH]

RAW wasn't bad last night, I'm glad Christy beat Carmella. The ME was nothing to hoot over...the show was basically a usual RAW show...long....boring....didn't really get anywhere.

[MichaelMyers]

I didn't like either of the girls they had left.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by NeewollaH
RAW wasn't bad last night, I'm glad Christy beat Carmella.

Wow.I'm amazed to hear that,bro.

[atomic dog]

can anyone give me the results of raw? i was watching MNF instead.

[Man In Black]

The link below has a pretty detailed RAW rundown:
http://www.wrestleview.com/news2004/1095736049.shtml

QUICK RESULTS:
- Victoria & Stacy Keibler defeated Trish Stratus & Molly Holly.
- Tajiri defeated The Hurricane.
- Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels for the WWE Intercontinental Title ended via DQ after Christian & Tyson Tomko attacked both Y2J & HBK.
- Maven defeated Sylvain Grenier.
- Christy was the winner of the RAW Diva Search Competition.
- Chris Benoit, Randy Orton & Shelton Benjamin defeated Evolution.

[atomic dog]

oh i like that last match up

[NeewollaH]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Wow.I'm amazed to hear that,bro.


Don't you remember? I jumped off the Carmella bandwagon a while ago...

[atomic dog]

so what happens now? is carmela off the show and kristy is on and what is she doing?

[NeewollaH]

She's getting like a welcome ceremony next week...I don't know, it's all relatively confusing, but at least we don't have to see stupid diva segments every week.

[ten31]

Kristy is annoying. I can't wait to see Trish knock her out next week.

[MichaelMyers]

She is going to be more annoying than anything that was ever on tv.

[FTL]

That's a huge exaggeration.

[MichaelMyers]

No, I truly believe that.

[Michael Myers]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
No, I truly believe that.


Oh great, two Michael Myers lol :p

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
She is going to be more annoying than anything that was ever on tv.

No,I'm sure Carmella will be on various television shows.;)

[Man In Black]

Anyone bought that Chris Benoit DVD yet? Is it worth getting at all? I got the Mick Foley/Ric Flair/Shawn Michael's one and they're all great, so I might pick this one up.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by Man In Black
Anyone bought that Chris Benoit DVD yet? Is it worth getting at all? I got the Mick Foley/Ric Flair/Shawn Michael's one and they're all great, so I might pick this one up.

Not here,bro.
I thought that HBK one sucked.They seeemed to have missed 1997,one of HBK's greatest years in the Federation,and went from 1996 to 2002.:(

[Man In Black]

Yeah, out of the three I bought I think HBK's is the worst out of those - Benoit's looks pretty interesting.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by Man In Black
Yeah, out of the three I bought I think HBK's is the worst out of those - Benoit's looks pretty interesting.

It really does,but its sold out everywhere here.:confused:

[theoutfieldguy]

Holy shit,I just found some breaking news from rajah.com...

In some very sad news, it has been learned that Ray Traylor, who was widely known as the Big Bossman has passed away at his home suddenly tonight. He had not been complaining of feeling badly but his wife found him in a room, not breathing and paramedics were unable to revive him.

Traylor had a big run in both WWF(E) and WCW, as well as overseas in Japan. Best wishes go out to the family of Traylor

[ten31]

RIP BossMan.

[Beau]

I still can't beleave that Big Boss Man Ray Traylor died just last night, and he was only 42 years old :(

[atomic dog]

wow what did he die of?

[Beau]

Originally posted by atomic dog
wow what did he die of?

Doctor's say that he had a massive heart attack...terrible.

[gerry d]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Holy shit,I just found some breaking news from rajah.com...

In some very sad news, it has been learned that Ray Traylor, who was widely known as the Big Bossman has passed away at his home suddenly tonight. He had not been complaining of feeling badly but his wife found him in a room, not breathing and paramedics were unable to revive him.

Traylor had a big run in both WWF(E) and WCW, as well as overseas in Japan. Best wishes go out to the family of Traylor

That is sad:(

i usually visit www.rajahwwf.com & just happened to come across the story.

I liked the Big BossMan when he was in the WWF

So Sad

cheers

[FTL]

That is some breaking news.. and sad too. I hope his family can stay strong.

R.I.P., boss.

[theoutfieldguy]

Saddest thing is that he had a young daughter who has to grow up without a father.And,I remember reading some time ago that Boss devoted most of his free time to charities and schools.The world lost a good guy.

[TheShape66]

R.I.P. Bossman!!! :(

[myers316]

My fav. Boss Man match was a steel cage match with Hulk Hogan on Saturday Night's Main Event, I still own it on video after all these years. I don't know why Boss Man wasn't in WWE yet because he was always a very good heel. It's odd because Monday or Tues. I was thinking about whatever happened to him and now he's gone days later, weird how things happen like that. His run w/ Bobby Heenan was good too, remember Bobby would make off color comments about Boss Man's mother? It was great. RIP Boss Man, say hi to so many other wrestlers that have gone before they should have.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by myers316
My fav. Boss Man match was a steel cage match with Hulk Hogan on Saturday Night's Main Event, I still own it on video after all these years. I don't know why Boss Man wasn't in WWE yet because he was always a very good heel. It's odd because Monday or Tues. I was thinking about whatever happened to him and now he's gone days later, weird how things happen like that. His run w/ Bobby Heenan was good too, remember Bobby would make off color comments about Boss Man's mother? It was great. RIP Boss Man, say hi to so many other wrestlers that have gone before they should have.

I think my favorite Boss moment was the hardcore match he had with Al Snow.No,not that lame Kennel in a Cage match.That was pure shitte.The hardcore match took place at SummerSlam 99,I believe,and spilled out into the streets and then over at a local bar.:cool:

[Beau]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
I think my favorite Boss moment was the hardcore match he had with Al Snow.No,not that lame Kennel in a Cage match.That was pure shitte.The hardcore match took place at SummerSlam 99,I believe,and spilled out into the streets and then over at a local bar.:cool:

I remember the Al Snow/ Boss Man match. So funny, especialy when Al Snow did a moonsault on Boss Man through a table :D

[gerry d]

It's so sad when you think of the big wrestling names that have passed away the least few years.

Mr Perfect
Rick Rude
Owen Hart
Bulldog
Pillman
Hawk
Andre
& now Bossman

Depending how old you are these were the guys you grew up with when watching WWF/WWE.

cheers

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by gerry d
It's so sad when you think of the big wrestling names that have passed away the least few years.

Mr Perfect
Rick Rude
Owen Hart
Bulldog
Pillman
Hawk
Andre
& now Bossman

Depending how old you are these were the guys you grew up with when watching WWF/WWE.

cheers

No doubt alot of memories, watching some of the greats you have there gerry..

[Beau]

Originally posted by gerry d
It's so sad when you think of the big wrestling names that have passed away the least few years.

Mr Perfect
Rick Rude
Owen Hart
Bulldog
Pillman
Hawk
Andre
& now Bossman

Depending how old you are these were the guys you grew up with when watching WWF/WWE.

cheers

^ You forgot Yokozuna :( .....such a shame.


Beau Carter:cool:

[gerry d]

Originally posted by Beau
^ You forgot Yokozuna :( .....such a shame.


Beau Carter:cool:

AH So i did, he's another wrestler that's missed

cheers

[HalloweenFan#1]

Originally posted by icparenumber1
I wanna do something but i dont feel like being the first one ever banned from the new board so im just gonna keep my mouth shut.

LOL:D

I will 2!

[myers316]

I wish WWE would release a dvd with the greatest Saturday Night's Main Event matches. That was the coolest show and had so many great moments. It is really sad to think about how many superstars have died over the past few years, It seems like every few months we add another name to the list.

[Beau]

Originally posted by myers316
I wish WWE would release a dvd with the greatest Saturday Night's Main Event matches. That was the coolest show and had so many great moments. It is really sad to think about how many superstars have died over the past few years, It seems like every few months we add another name to the list.


Well they might release a Best of Saturday Night dvd since their reease old Wrestling ppv's on dvd called Tagged Classics.


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Holy crap! After what Angle did to the Big Show last Thursday you gotta figure the storyline will require the Show to destroy Angle at the next ppv. Some guys can get away with the chrome dome look. The Big Show isn't one of them.

[Beau]

Originally posted by thetodd
Holy crap! After what Angle did to the Big Show last Thursday you gotta figure the storyline will require the Show to destroy Angle at the next ppv. Some guys can get away with the chrome dome look. The Big Show isn't one of them.


I can't wait to see Big Show this week on Smackdown :p :p

Also im really looking forward too JBL vs The Undertaker at No Mercy.....should be a good match up :D


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Beau
I can't wait to see Big Show this week on Smackdown :p :p

Also im really looking forward too JBL vs The Undertaker at No Mercy.....should be a good match up :D


Beau Carter:cool:
Well, the Undertaker should prevail. I can't imagine him having to drop to title matches in a row. The Big Show without his hair will not be pretty. I don't know what they were thinking with that one. I hope it isn't his new look. He makes Kane look like Brad Pitt.

[Beau]

Originally posted by thetodd
Well, the Undertaker should prevail. I can't imagine him having to drop to title matches in a row. The Big Show without his hair will not be pretty. I don't know what they were thinking with that one. I hope it isn't his new look. He makes Kane look like Brad Pitt.


Yeah i think Taker will get the win.


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Beau
Yeah i think Taker will get the win.


Beau Carter:cool:
If they aren't going to let the Taker win this one, then there is no point in having he and JBL go at it again.
JBL is boring as boring gets. Undertaker is old news.
The WWE needs something to heat things up again.

[Beau]

I would like to see Edie Gurrero get the WWE title back.
On SD latley their have been alot of heels like ( Kurt Angle, Luthur Regines, Booker T and JBL )...and their arn't that manny Faces on SD at the moment ( Eddie, John Cena and Big Show ) so if WWE gave a face the WWE title...then there would be alot more competition.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Beau
I would like to see Edie Gurrero get the WWE title back.
On SD latley their have been alot of heels like ( Kurt Angle, Luthur Regines, Booker T and JBL )...and their arn't that manny Faces on SD at the moment ( Eddie, John Cena and Big Show ) so if WWE gave a face the WWE title...then there would be alot more competition.
Eddie bores the pee out of me. They need to push Cena.
He could be the next breakout star.
On that subject, Triple H is a dick. They start the Orton era by giving him the title, then just as quickly take it away. Orton could be the next Rock, but Triple Ego will hold him down if he has any say in the matter.....and he will.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by thetodd
Well, the Undertaker should prevail.

Hell no.Taker has absolutely nothing going for him right now,to make me even think of him being World Champion,other than a contract clause.:o

Originally posted by Beau
I would like to see Edie Gurrero get the WWE title back.


Fuck no.Eddie was,at most,a decent Champion,but right when he drops the title,he goes crazy and gets into backstage fights,has mental break downs.Someone with less ego,please.JBL is a champ for the long-run.At least until WM21.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Hell no.Taker has absolutely nothing going for him right now,to make me even think of him being World Champion,other than a contract clause.:o



Fuck no.Eddie was,at most,a decent Champion,but right when he drops the title,he goes crazy and gets into backstage fights,has mental break downs.Someone with less ego,please.JBL is a champ for the long-run.At least until WM21.
The Undertaker may be past his prime, but JBL is about as exciting as a tree stump. If it has to be one or the other, come on. The Taker wins hands down.
Oh and by the way, congratulations on your girl Christy winning.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by thetodd
Oh and by the way, congratulations on your girl Christy winning.

Thanks,Todd.I was surprised that the whole thing wasnt fixed.I thought for certain Carmella DeCharisma would have won.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Thanks,Todd.I was surprised that the whole thing wasnt fixed.I thought for certain Carmella DeCharisma would have won.
Me too, but honestly, Christy acted like she wanted it more. Although I liked Carmella, the right girl won.

[myers316]

I think it would have been cool if Carmella would have won because she had so much heat on her from the fans already, she could have been a good heel at least for a while.
Don't you guys think they should drop the split roster? SD and Raw just don't have enough star power on their own, I mean they aren't pushing anyone new really very well, so why not put them all on the same show again. I have hated the fact that there are two world champions, it takes away the value of each belt having two at the same time.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by myers316
Don't you guys think they should drop the split roster? SD and Raw just don't have enough star power on their own, I mean they aren't pushing anyone new really very well, so why not put them all on the same show again. I have hated the fact that there are two world champions, it takes away the value of each belt having two at the same time.

I hated the roster split,too.
But at this point,it would be too complicated to undo it.They would have to eliminate the World Title and one of the tag titles.
Plus,Vince McMahon likes the idea,which is why it has been and will be around for awhile.It would open up a great degree of new ideas though.New feuds like Kurt Angle vs HBK,John Cena vs RKO,
HHH vs JBL and others.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
I hated the roster split,too.
But at this point,it would be too complicated to undo it.They would have to eliminate the World Title and one of the tag titles.
Plus,Vince McMahon likes the idea,which is why it has been and will be around for awhile.It would open up a great degree of new ideas though.New feuds like Kurt Angle vs HBK,John Cena vs RKO,
HHH vs JBL and others.
Yep. We're missing a lot of interesting matchups because of the split roster. I never thought it would last as long as it has. Ratings are down now, so McMahon has to do something to get people interested again.

[myers316]

And too many PPV's with meaningless matches, remember the good old days when each PPV meant something. And each match on the card from top to bottom had value and some meaning behind it. If you watch Raw or SD, it seems also like so many matches never have clean finishes, it's always a run in. That's such a let down all the time. I think they should fire 90% of their writers and hire Austin and Foley as the new bookers. And so many great guys have been held back-Look at Edge, RVD, and Jericho! They've done little in the past three years.

[atomic dog]

i totally agree. they need more different match up. how many times can the same guys fight each other?

[Beau]

Anyone here agree with me that Triple H should lose the title at Taboo Tuesday?


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by myers316
And too many PPV's with meaningless matches, remember the good old days when each PPV meant something. And each match on the card from top to bottom had value and some meaning behind it. If you watch Raw or SD, it seems also like so many matches never have clean finishes, it's always a run in. That's such a let down all the time. I think they should fire 90% of their writers and hire Austin and Foley as the new bookers. And so many great guys have been held back-Look at Edge, RVD, and Jericho! They've done little in the past three years.
Perfect point. I remember fondly the days when you had Wrestlemania, Summerslam, Survivor Series, and the Royal Rumble. That was it and that was fine. But now the concept has become so watered down it is almost meaningless. It's almost like RAW and SMACKDOWN are nothing more than informercials trying to sell the ppv's.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Beau
Anyone here agree with me that Triple H should lose the title at Taboo Tuesday?


Beau Carter:cool:
I completely agree. I am sick of Triple H. He was once one of my favorite wrestlers, but now he is so overexposed it is pathetic. He doesn't have the charisma of a Rock or Austin, but he wants (and gets) the same kind of treatment. I Guess being married to the bosses daughter has its benefits.........

[TheShape66]

I agree he should drop it at Taboo Tuesday, but who should we, the fans (if this concept isn't fixed) vote to face him??? Orton, HBK, Kane??? Orton is the logical choice since it looks more and more likely that HBK will face Christian.

[FTL]

Put Triple H against Flair. Have the show start off with that news. Have Flair excited about it, have Triple H talk shit behind his back like 'he thinks he's getting a title shot?' Have Flair find out about it and really take it to him in the match, and the aftermath of it will be the beginning of the fall out for Evolution. Just an idea.

[FTL]

Put Triple H against Flair. Have the show start off with that news. Have Flair excited about it, have Triple H talk shit behind his back like 'he thinks he's getting a title shot?' Have Flair find out about it and really take it to him in the match, and the aftermath of it will be the beginning of the fall out for Evolution. Just an idea.

[myers316]

I can't believe they didn't have Orton hold on to the title longer, I mean for god sake he only had it about a month. The more you trade the title back and forth the less it is worth to the fans and the less they will pay to see a title match. HHH has been a heel for way way too long. Everyone is sick of him as champion. He has to do something with his character to change things up a bit. Evolution is tired so why not have them have a big break up. It's a hell of a lot better then seeing Kane and Lita lose their baby. I mean there is a fine line between a dramatic wrestling storyline and pure bull ****. Ratings have been sinking over the past year and they (WWE) think they know what we (fans) want but they don't seem to have a clue.

[atomic dog]

what i find weird is that as soon as the ppv is over they are promoting the next one. not even a little built up or a month off. it's like ok that one's over let's have the next one. kind of like when it's around halloween time and you see x-mas decorations already.

[myers316]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Sadly, I guess it all boils down to $$$. It feels so hopeless that they will ever wake up and wrestling will get good again.

[Beau]

Originally posted by myers316
I can't believe they didn't have Orton hold on to the title longer, I mean for god sake he only had it about a month. The more you trade the title back and forth the less it is worth to the fans and the less they will pay to see a title match. HHH has been a heel for way way too long. Everyone is sick of him as champion. He has to do something with his character to change things up a bit. Evolution is tired so why not have them have a big break up. It's a hell of a lot better then seeing Kane and Lita lose their baby. I mean there is a fine line between a dramatic wrestling storyline and pure bull ****. Ratings have been sinking over the past year and they (WWE) think they know what we (fans) want but they don't seem to have a clue.

^ I know...it's realy stupid that Ortan didn't keep the title.
But aswell im not surprised that Ortan lost the title to HHH, since HHH is close friends with Vince and HHH married the bosses daulter :mad:


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

HHH is a bitch, in my opinion. He is a spotlight hog who is more concerned about his own ego than he is about what is best for wrestling. He is a class A jerk off

[atomic dog]

wrestling has become to predictable and boring. i mean there are 'some' good figths but mostly it's just the same thing day in and day out.
i remember there was a timewhen i would never ever miss a show now it's like 'well if i'm home to watch it i will, but otherwise it might be on but i don't really pay attention.

don't get me wrong i still love watching it, but the show itself needs a revival or something. more like a total overhaul.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
wrestling has become to predictable and boring. i mean there are 'some' good figths but mostly it's just the same thing day in and day out.
i remember there was a timewhen i would never ever miss a show now it's like 'well if i'm home to watch it i will, but otherwise it might be on but i don't really pay attention.

don't get me wrong i still love watching it, but the show itself needs a revival or something. more like a total overhaul.
Absofragginglutely. Triple H has had center stage on RAW for far too long. The WWE is so boring and predictable now it is almost not worth watching.

[myers316]

There was a time from about 1998 to 2000 when you never knew what was going to happen and I couldn't miss it. You could always expect the unexpected but now it's like watching a rerun of the same episode of Raw over and over and over.

[atomic dog]

Ok here's a question is was thinking of the other day: on SD! last thurdays they said something to the fact that this was the new season. but wrestling never repeats like regular shows or has reruns or even mentions a new season. how can you have a new season if you never go off for a break, except for new years or x-mas?

how would wrestlign be if they did have breaks like regular tv shows? we would get to watch a new one like a ppv to open and close the season and new episodes in between. then when it was say summer break they would go off and have reruns for those that missed it. what do you guys think? i know there woul dhave to be things worked out, but what do you think of the concept?

[FTL]

I think it sucks. It's best to just do it like they have always been. Stuff like that works with regular TV sit-coms.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
Ok here's a question is was thinking of the other day: on SD! last thurdays they said something to the fact that this was the new season. but wrestling never repeats like regular shows or has reruns or even mentions a new season. how can you have a new season if you never go off for a break, except for new years or x-mas?

how would wrestlign be if they did have breaks like regular tv shows? we would get to watch a new one like a ppv to open and close the season and new episodes in between. then when it was say summer break they would go off and have reruns for those that missed it. what do you guys think? i know there woul dhave to be things worked out, but what do you think of the concept?
Yeah, the "new season" stuff was bullshit. What's "new" about it? Same old boring stuff. They need to fix things quickly or I can forsee Smackdown being taken off the air.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by thetodd
Yeah, the "new season" stuff was bullshit. What's "new" about it? Same old boring stuff. They need to fix things quickly or I can forsee Smackdown being taken off the air.

I agree with ya sir....

[FTL]

Originally posted by FTL
Put Triple H against Flair. Have the show start off with that news. Have Flair excited about it, have Triple H talk shit behind his back like 'he thinks he's getting a title shot?' Have Flair find out about it and really take it to him in the match, and the aftermath of it will be the beginning of the fall out for Evolution. Just an idea.


Looks like I'm not too far from what they're trying to do. This is just the beginning of the end for Evolution. And man, did the Nature Boy sell the shit out of that segment or what.

[atomic dog]

ok so is flair ging to leave evolution? and if he does i guess bautista will leave too...

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by atomic dog
ok so is flair ging to leave evolution? and if he does i guess bautista will leave too...

Flair seems to have this draw over Bautista...

[atomic dog]

damn it looks like they are keeping carmela.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by atomic dog
damn it looks like they are keeping carmela.

Fuck,no!!!!!!!!:o

[atomic dog]

damn kristy is hot.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by atomic dog
damn kristy is hot.


So is her sister.http://christyhemme.com/2knees.jpg

[atomic dog]

yummy. ok so what's the deal now? i thought that the winner would be the only one to stay. but i guess since carmela was a playmate they keep her?

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by atomic dog
yummy. ok so what's the deal now? i thought that the winner would be the only one to stay. but i guess since carmela was a playmate they keep her?

I remember reading somewhere that they'd probably keep the two finalists.I was just hoping that Carmella wouldnt be around much longer.She kinda gave it away last week though in her interview after she had lost.:confused:

[atomic dog]

i didn't get to see last week because of MNF.

[Beau]

Anyone a HBK fan on this board ?? :confused:


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
damn it looks like they are keeping carmela.
Of course they are keeping Carmella. She made the fans passionate about her, even if that passion was seeded in hate. Anybody who can get the fans going-for or against them-will be seen as an asset to the WWE. I knew Carmella would be sticking around as soon as the fans started booing her.

[thetodd]

Ric Flair was once one of the greatest wrestlers (if not THE greatest wrestler) ever. He is now nothing more than Triple H's bitch. Orton had his number. Ric Flair should be calling the shots in Evolution, not Triple nose. Flair is being misused. But on the other hand, Flair is a smart guy. Maybe the storyline will have him turn on Triple H yet.
I thought that the way Orton was disqualified from eligibility for Taboo Tuesday was cheap. The fans don't really have much say so at all. Does anybody really think Triple jerk off will be dropping the title at Taboo Tuesday? Please. I wouldn't be suprised if Bischoff finds a way to beat Eugene, either. I don't mind the "bad guys" winning sometimes, but there is no balance on Raw right now. The heels, more often than not, have their way.
Last nights show was pretty good, though.

[thetodd]

Here's a prediction: The Kane/Lita storyline will have Kane "kill" Gene Snitsky. Not beat him up, not maim him, but actually "kill" him. Of course the guy won't really be dead, but we will be told he is.

[Beau]

Originally posted by thetodd
Here's a prediction: The Kane/Lita storyline will have Kane "kill" Gene Snitsky. Not beat him up, not maim him, but actually "kill" him. Of course the guy won't really be dead, but we will be told he is.


^ Probably right :rolleyes:


Beau Carter:cool:

[FTL]

Originally posted by thetodd
Ric Flair was once one of the greatest wrestlers (if not THE greatest wrestler) ever. He is now nothing more than Triple H's bitch. Orton had his number. Ric Flair should be calling the shots in Evolution, not Triple nose. Flair is being misused. But on the other hand, Flair is a smart guy. Maybe the storyline will have him turn on Triple H yet.

Exactly. Who knows what that slippery bastard is up to. Flair probably realized what Orton said was true by the look on his face at the end of that segment. Either that chair shot was Flair using Orton to make Triple H think he was solid (then strike later), or he really is that grateful that he was picked up out of the losing "rut" (to the likes of Rico) by Triple H, and will walk through Hell with him if he has too.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by FTL
Exactly. Who knows what that slippery bastard is up to. Flair probably realized what Orton said was true by the look on his face at the end of that segment. Either that chair shot was Flair using Orton to make Triple H think he was solid (then strike later), or he really is that grateful that he was picked up out of the losing "rut" (to the likes of Rico) by Triple H, and will walk through Hell with him if he has too.
Flair was in a losing rut because he is an old man and not that marketable anymore. Can you actually see McMahon putting a title on his waist again? He can still be a good supporting character but his days of headlining are over. Triple H, the "cerebral assasin" realized that Ric Flair could be a very strong asset and gave him a line of b.s in order to get Flair to do his bidding. Triple H doesn't give a damn about Ric flair. It's "all about the game" as his song says. Look how quickly he turned on Orton. The storyline needs to have Flair wake up and have some pride in himself again. I doubt it will happen though. Flair needs to be part of some faction in order to keep going in the WWE. As a stand alone, he just doesn't have it anymore and will quickly fade away.

[FTL]

I refuse to see that last statement. Flair will always be great, faction or no faction...BUT yes I do agree with you, he needs to say Fuck this shit, and fuck you, Hunter, and go on his own, or team up with the faces to take on whatever is left of Evolution, or just be the same old Ric, a snake. Whatever happens, happens, but I do still see the fans staying behind him no matter what. The promo last night where he was screaming his lungs out about being "16 times, 16 times, 16 times, 16 times heavyweight champ," and the crowd was getting riled up about it, seems to show him doing fine. He could be shown on Raw doing the most despicable thing and being booed out of the arena, then the next night having the crowd behind him all the way at the sight of a two second strut. Shit, all this talkin' makes me wanna see Flair turn now.

[thetodd]

Where was Ric flair before joining Evolution, though? Getting used by McMahon to job to other wrestlers. I wouldn't be suprised if Triple H (the real Triple H, not the character he plays on Raw) saw what was going on and said, "look Vince, let's do this or that with Flair instead of humiliating him time after time".
In real life, Triple H is supposedly a pretty good guy.

[FTL]

Triple H and Ric Flair were in talks months before even ever starting Evolution. The idea was to have Flair less-confident than he was, I'm guessing since he came in from the dark WCW days. Have him lose some matches to losers like Rico, then have HHH tell him how ashamed he is of Flair, and wonder where the hell the old Ric went. Then Flair would shape up, join HHH, and kick some ass. They would go on to bring in two young stars who they thought were the future of the WWE, Orton and Batista. The whole point, besides the past, present, and future angle, was to get younger guys over, said by HHH himself, because he knows how hard it is to get over nowadays (anyone can insert their 'because he holds them down' comment if you want). Just so you know....And also, HHH is supposedly on the coolness level as Ricky Steamboat.

EDIT: Flair was the most important ingredient, seeing as he can get anyone over, like that one night where the faces were booed, and Evolution was cheered.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by FTL
Triple H and Ric Flair were in talks months before even ever starting Evolution. The idea was to have Flair less-confident than he was, I'm guessing since he came in from the dark WCW days. Have him lose some matches to losers like Rico, then have HHH tell him how ashamed he is of Flair, and wonder where the hell the old Ric went. Then Flair would shape up, join HHH, and kick some ass. They would go on to bring in two young stars who they thought were the future of the WWE, Orton and Batista. The whole point, besides the past, present, and future angle, was to get younger guys over, said by HHH himself, because he knows how hard it is to get over nowadays (anyone can insert their 'because he holds them down' comment if you want). Just so you know....And also, HHH is supposedly on the coolness level as Ricky Steamboat.
Hey, I said that Triple H was actually a pretty good guy.
I never said he was a dick. His character is certainly a dick, but not the real deal. He is supposedly high on Edge so I wouldn't be suprised if he is the next member of Evolution.

[FTL]

I know. But that's what Flair said somewhere, that HHH is like Steamboat. Nice, cool, in to working out, that shit. I edited my post, make sure you check the end.

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by Beau
Anyone a HBK fan on this board ?? :confused:


Beau Carter:cool:

Hell yeah.The greatest WWE Superstar of the 90's.IMO.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Hell yeah.The greatest WWE Superstar of the 90's.IMO.
I'm a big HBK fan, but looking at him last night, I think he needs to do a few set ups rather than having his tights pulled up past his belly button.

[Beau]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Hell yeah.The greatest WWE Superstar of the 90's.IMO.

Your damm right :D


Beau Carter:cool:

[myers316]

Here is what I want to see:Flair turns on HHH. Flair,Batista, and Orton get back together as Evolution. HBK takes HHH's spot in Evolution as the leader. HHH becomes the babyface, just because it's long over due and everyone is tired of him as a heel. And Shawn becomes the HBK of old, you know, the guy you loved to hate, cocky, and arrogant. This would produce a Flair/HHH feud and would regenerate the HHH/HBK feud as well. Evolution could become more bad ass like DX was when HBK was the leader.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by myers316
Here is what I want to see:Flair turns on HHH. Flair,Batista, and Orton get back together as Evolution. HBK takes HHH's spot in Evolution as the leader. HHH becomes the babyface, just because it's long over due and everyone is tired of him as a heel. And Shawn becomes the HBK of old, you know, the guy you loved to hate, cocky, and arrogant. This would produce a Flair/HHH feud and would regenerate the HHH/HBK feud as well. Evolution could become more bad ass like DX was when HBK was the leader.
Everything would work there except Orton joining Evolution again. Orton is on the fast track to stardom and I doubt they want to relegate him to follower status again. The WWE sees him as the next Rock or Austin type figure who transcends the show and gets people talking again.

[myers316]

Yeah your right, he might get lost in the shuffle, but I'm so desperate to see a good wrestling show again, I just want to see some changes. I don't know that he's quite there yet as far as mic skills, but he's great in the ring.

[myers316]

You know what's sad? I watch Raw weekly and I can't even tell you who the tag champs are. Those belts mean nothing anymore, it's such a shame.

[MichaelMyers]

After sundays PPV Cena will only make special appearances for several months because of a movie called the marine.

[theoutfieldguy]

In yet another stupid move,WWE has sent Billy Gunn home and removed him from the active roster.Bullshit.
One of the greatest pure atheletes ever in the WWE,not to mention having been there longer than 99% of the others,and this is how they treat him?If I were running the show,he'd be headlining right now.

[Beau]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
After sundays PPV Cena will only make special appearances for several months because of a movie called the marine.

I know.....it sucks. Smackdown ratings are go to be well low.


Beau Carter:cool:

[TheShape66]

Is anyone even going to order No Mercy Sunday?? I can't because of prior commitments, but the lineup doesn't seem half bad

[thetodd]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
After sundays PPV Cena will only make special appearances for several months because of a movie called the marine.
How the **** did McMahon allow that? Cena isn't the Rock yet.

[Beau]

Originally posted by TheShape66
Is anyone even going to order No Mercy Sunday?? I can't because of prior commitments, but the lineup doesn't seem half bad

Well in Enmgland No Mercy is free to watch so yeah....i will be watching it :)


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Beau
Well in Enmgland No Mercy is free to watch so yeah....i will be watching it :)


Beau Carter:cool:
How do you get if free because you're in England?

[Beau]

Well like most WWE ppvs, there shown on Sky Sports and Sky Sports is a free to air channel.


PPV'S Free:

No Way Out
Wrestlemania
Judgment Day
Bad Blood
Summer Slam
Unforgiven
No Mercy
Taboo Tuesday
Survivor Series

Not Free:

Royal Rumble
Backlash
Great American Bash
Vengence
Armageddon

Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Lucky s.o.b.

[Beau]

:p :p :p :p :p



Beau Carter:cool:

[FTL]

Originally posted by Beau
Not Free:

Royal Rumble
Backlash
Great American Bash
Vengence
Armageddon

Hahaha. Too bad for you, bud.

[Beau]

Ahh well...least i don't have to pay for all 14 ppvs :p :p

[myers316]

In response to Billy Gunn being let go, I hope he goes to TNA and reunites with the Road Dogg Jesse James. A New Age Outlaws reunion!

[thetodd]

Originally posted by myers316
In response to Billy Gunn being let go, I hope he goes to TNA and reunites with the Road Dogg Jesse James. A New Age Outlaws reunion!
TNA probably has a life expectancy of about two years or so. All the wrestlers who failed to thrive in the WWE are heading over there. Why pay $34 a month to watch failed or has been WWE stars put on a show once a week on TNA when I can get the WWE twice a week for free? Especially now that Stone Cold is coming back to the WWE and Hogan is trying to.

[FTL]

TNA is terrible anyway. Most of their guys need to be snagged by WWE, like Petey Williams for one.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by FTL
TNA is terrible anyway. Most of their guys need to be snagged by WWE, like Petey Williams for one.
Some of them, maybe. But a lot of them are simply has been WWE stars and failed former WWE stars.
I'm jazzed that Stone Cold is coming back to work a program in time for Wrestlemania. Hogan wants to come back too. That could be just what the WWE needs to inject some life into the situation.

[FTL]

Ugh. Slowgan.

Those failed WWE stars should be brought back for Smackdown. And also.. Kid Kash, A.J. Styles, Petey Williams, Jerry Lynn, Cazarian, etc.

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by thetodd
Especially now that Stone Cold is coming back to the WWE and Hogan is trying to. Austin's coming back!!!? Damn thats the best news I've heard this week. I used to be on top of all this stuff at one point, but with the rock and austin never there I've just gradually lost interest. Was the word on Austin made on wwe.com, pwtorch, or what?

[atomic dog]

when is he coming back?

[thetodd]

Originally posted by FTL
Ugh. Slowgan.

Those failed WWE stars should be brought back for Smackdown. And also.. Kid Kash, A.J. Styles, Petey Williams, Jerry Lynn, Cazarian, etc.
Slogan? Yeah, let's disrespect the most important figure in the history of pro wrestling. It was Hogans popularity that made the original wrestlemania the success it was.
Hogan transcended pro wrestling. No one other than Vince McMahon has done more to make pro wrestling as popular as it is.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
when is he coming back?
My local newspaper has a number you can call to get information on sports, entertainment, etc.,
The inside track is that it is only a matter of when, not if, Stone Cold comes back to the WWE. Hogan is wanting to come back too, but his return isn't as certain since he apparently pissed off McMahon pretty good.

[myers316]

I found it surprising though that he appeared on the Smackdown 5th anniv. special this past week. If either party was pissed off really bad at the other, I doubt that interview would have taken place. WWE sent a camera crew to Hogan's home in Florida.

On Austin, after reading his book, I think he has one match left in his tank, maybe it will be at WM21?

I'm not ruling out seeing Bret Hart on WWE tv, maybe for one apperance. He will never wrestle again, but I know he's not sure what he wants to do about WWE. Bret had been in talks with Shane O Mac about a possible Hitman dvd collection. And he allowed WWE to use him in the new Day of Reckoning video game. So we know he is talking to WWE at least. You never know what you might see in the wrestling business.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by myers316
I found it surprising though that he appeared on the Smackdown 5th anniv. special this past week. If either party was pissed off really bad at the other, I doubt that interview would have taken place. WWE sent a camera crew to Hogan's home in Florida.

On Austin, after reading his book, I think he has one match left in his tank, maybe it will be at WM21?

I'm not ruling out seeing Bret Hart on WWE tv, maybe for one apperance. He will never wrestle again, but I know he's not sure what he wants to do about WWE. Bret had been in talks with Shane O Mac about a possible Hitman dvd collection. And he allowed WWE to use him in the new Day of Reckoning video game. So we know he is talking to WWE at least. You never know what you might see in the wrestling business.
It may not be a question of McMahon being pissed so much as it is an issue of trust. Both Hogan and McMahon are proud and stuborn men who want things their way. There was some kind of conflict during Hogans last stint in the WWE that led to the abrubt end of a storyline he was involved in. Maybe McMahon is simply leary of investing time and money in Hogan again only to have things end the same way. In the end, however, I have little doubt that if Hogan wants to give it another try in the WWE, it will happen.

[atomic dog]

hey this week or last they have favorite moments by past wrestlers and one of them was scsa. was this a precursor to his return?

[Beau]

Originally posted by myers316
In response to Billy Gunn being let go, I hope he goes to TNA and reunites with the Road Dogg Jesse James. A New Age Outlaws reunion!


I hope so too, WWE are be really stupid by letting Gunn go.


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
hey this week or last they have favorite moments by past wrestlers and one of them was scsa. was this a precursor to his return?
It was last week. Stone Cold IS coming back. It's all but a done deal. Hogan wants to come back, but that isn't as certain.

[Beau]

Dammit !...i think this sucks having Austin back...i think he sucks.
I guess we will bring in rating thou.

Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Beau
Dammit !...i think this sucks having Austin back...i think he sucks.
I guess we will bring in rating thou.

Beau Carter:cool:
????????????????
You think Austin sucks?
Do you like the WWE?
If so, you should be grateful to Austin because without him the WWE would have lost the war with the WCW and might not even be around now. Austin didn't save the WWE all by himself, but he played the biggest part.
He helped bring the WWE to a level of popularity that it hadn't seen since briefly in the mid-eighties. Give the guy some credit.

[Beau]

Originally posted by thetodd
????????????????
You think Austin sucks?
Do you like the WWE?
If so, you should be grateful to Austin because without him the WWE would have lost the war with the WCW and might not even be around now. Austin didn't save the WWE all by himself, but he played the biggest part.
He helped bring the WWE to a level of popularity that it hadn't seen since briefly in the mid-eighties. Give the guy some credit.

Yeah...the guy is a great wrestler, but IN MY OPINION i don't like him.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Beau Carter:cool:

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Beau
Yeah...the guy is a great wrestler, but IN MY OPINION i don't like him.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


Beau Carter:cool:
You don't have to like him, but I can't fathom why you wouldn't.

[atomic dog]

the aggression period of wwe was based around scsa. they need him back.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
the aggression period of wwe was based around scsa. they need him back.
The most successful time in WWE history came during mid to late nineties and was due in large part to Stone Cold. Pro wrestling had never been so popular. He paved the way for the Rock. He helped McMahon take down the WCW. McMahon owes Stone Cold big time and if the rattlesnake wants to come back, he will.
And guess what? He does and he is.

[FTL]

Originally posted by thetodd
Slogan? Yeah, let's disrespect the most important figure in the history of pro wrestling. It was Hogans popularity that made the original wrestlemania the success it was.
Hogan transcended pro wrestling. No one other than Vince McMahon has done more to make pro wrestling as popular as it is.

I don't give a shit. I'll give him that, he made wrestling popular when he was around, he was entertaining, he could move, but that was then. He's old now, to the point of where he's slow in the ring and doesn't have what he used to. Same thing with Flair, but then again he moves light years faster than Hogan, the only problem is that being 55 years of age is you don't have all the brilliant moves in your arsenal all the time. You just stick to the plain kick-ass angle. But Hogan isn't gifted with the speed/moves skills anymore at all at his age.

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by Beau
I hope so too, WWE are be really stupid by letting Gunn go.not really. After his stint as bad ass billy gunn, his characters/story lines were just lame. His stint as "the one billy gunn" was generic and boring. Then the "we're sort of gay" storyline with Chuck Palumbo was probably one of the top 5 STUPID beyond words character angles in professional wrestling history.

As far as Stone Cold sucking? haha yeah right. NO ONE, even at his age, gets the adrenaline in the fans pumping like he does. Whenever that glass breaks and he comes down to crash Bishoff, or HHH's party it's just something that never gets old.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by FTL
I don't give a shit. I'll give him that, he made wrestling popular when he was around, he was entertaining, he could move, but that was then. He's old now, to the point of where he's slow in the ring and doesn't have what he used to. Same thing with Flair, but then again he moves light years faster than Hogan, the only problem is that being 55 years of age is you don't have all the brilliant moves in your arsenal all the time. You just stick to the plain kick-ass angle. But Hogan isn't gifted with the speed/moves skills anymore at all at his age.
So? He never was gifted in those areas. He didn't need to be. Flair really isn't that much bigger than the average joe. He had to use speed and technical skill. Hogan was never speedy gonzales. Big fucking deal.
He can still bring it, and even though he's in his fifties, he's still in much better shape than most men half his age.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
not really. After his stint as bad ass billy gunn, his characters/story lines were just lame. His stint as "the one billy gunn" was generic and boring. Then the "we're sort of gay" storyline with Chuck Palumbo was probably one of the top 5 STUPID beyond words character angles in professional wrestling history.

As far as Stone Cold sucking? haha yeah right. NO ONE, even at his age, gets the adrenaline in the fans pumping like he does. Whenever that glass breaks and he comes down to crash Bishoff, or HHH's party it's just something that never gets old.
And it never will. Some day very soon, we'll hear that glas breaking again......

[FTL]

He was never gifted in those areas? So being at 55 or so is gonna be any better? No way. And Flair not being that big, don't mean shit. I never use that against anybody, only their speed and in-ring ability. The big fucking deal is I can't take Hogan, even if some people still want to see the red and yella, because he is gonna be way slower and duller. If he can improve, by all means, let his ass back. He first started showing his signs of slowing down back in WCW when he went up against Flair, who at 50, was bumping like crazy while Hogan took falls here and there. Imagine it now.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by FTL
He was never gifted in those areas? So being at 55 or so is gonna be any better? No way. And Flair not being that big, don't mean shit. I never use that against anybody, only their speed and in-ring ability. The big fucking deal is I can't take Hogan, even if some people still want to see the red and yella, because he is gonna be way slower and duller. If he can improve, by all means, let his ass back. He first started showing his signs of slowing down back in WCW when he went up against Flair, who at 50, was bumping like crazy while Hogan took falls here and there. Imagine it now.
The entire point is that Hogan doesn't have to be a speedster. He never was in his hey day so why does it matter now? Hogan took plenty of bumps. You may not like him, but so what? Hogan is anything but dull and you are definitely in the minority in your opinion of him.
Most people have no idea who Ric Flair is.
Everybody knows Hulk Hogan.
Who's going to put more butts in seats and sale more ppv's?
It's not even close. I respect Flair but Hogan deserves the same.

[FTL]

No, the entire point is Hogan HAS to bring something to the table. What do we see Flair do? He does his routine chops, kicks, punches, poke to the eyes, the occasional super plex or back body drop or any of them moves, the figure four, etc. He falls to the mat with his legs locked around the ankle of his opponent and gets a quick tag. When pushed to real wrestling, like with Regal, Flair is still technically great. The man is also being forced to work on a daily basis now it almost seems, taking some of the most vicious looking back drops ever, and wrestling too long. BUT, he still stays with it. He can bring something. He's got his speed, he's got his moves when he wants to use 'em, etc.

Now onto Hogan. He is slow (and gonna be way slower now that he's in his 50s, and I know for a fact he had to have been still quicker back in the days) and dull. His storylines are a different thing, e.g. the lie detector test on McMahon, the who really is Mr. America angle, but in the ring, I just don't see him bringing anything. And Hogan took plenty of bumps, yeah, back in his 40s and stuff like that.

Most people have no idea who Ric Flair is.
Everybody knows Hulk Hogan.

But that makes him better? Hogan may be the most famous, but Flair is better than him.

[thetodd]

How is Flair better? They have different styles that are dictated by their body types. So what if Flair can still chop and kick? Who can't? Hogan can still do what he does best, which is give the fans a good show. He was doing a pretty good job of that before he and McMAhon butted heads again.
I see no reason why there isn't room for both Flar and Hogan.
They both made incredible impacts in their own way. I like both of them and see no reason to put one down in favor of the other.

[FTL]

You only read and see what you wanna see, then come back and use only what you wanna read and see and change it around on us.

Yes, I said Flair can still chop and kick, but he can also add on there and actually do some sort of move that he doesn’t normally do. He can be creative, do some old moves from back when, that shit. Hogan doesn’t.


edit-think before you post and stick with it. All this editing requires for me to say something to it, but that would be a waste of time cause I don't know if you'll remove it or not.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by FTL
You only read and see what you wanna see, then come back and use only what you wanna read and see and change it around on us.

Yes, I said Flair can still chop and kick, but he can also add on there and actually do some sort of move that he doesn’t normally do. He can be creative, do some old moves from back when, that shit. Hogan doesn’t.


edit-think before you post and stick with it. All this editing requires for me to say something to it, but that would be a waste of time cause I don't know if you'll remove it or not.
Think before I post? I do. I read your entire post. I didn't misrepresent anything. But fuck it. Let's go back to our agreement to just ignore each other. I was hoping things would be different this go around, but obviously I was mistaken.

[MichaelMyers]

Flair is old and should retire. He is so fake. He just pisses everyone off and now he follows HHH around like he's his bitch.

[Kara Strode]

ahhh, stop the pointless fighting...wrestling fake and a male soap opera anyway ;)


But, really...guys, just cut it out...I'm *really* tired of seeing senseless bickering.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Kara Strode
ahhh, stop the pointless fighting...wrestling fake and a male soap opera anyway ;)


But, really...guys, just cut it out...I'm *really* tired of seeing senseless bickering.
Senseless bickering? Would you like a body slam?
Joke. Just a joke. Don't ban me. And yes, wrestling is a show, but it's not fake. The results are decided before the matches but those guys take more punishment in one of their "fake" fights than most guys would in two or three real ones.

[Kara Strode]

oooh, I'll body slam you, and you'll like it.

I don't doubt they get hurt...but it's still fake...it's just a tvshow, not a sport...to me, mind you...tis my opinion

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Kara Strode
oooh, I'll body slam you, and you'll like it.

I don't doubt they get hurt...but it's still fake...it's just a tvshow, not a sport...to me, mind you...tis my opinion
You're right. It is a show. I'm not dumb enough to think otherwise. It just depends on what you mean by fake. I doubt I could take the punishment they do.
As far as you body slamming me, yeah, I probably would enjoy it.

[TheShape66]

Originally posted by Kara Strode
I'll body slam you, and you'll like it.


Oooh, Oooh....me too, me too!!!!!!

[Kara Strode]

Originally posted by TheShape66
Oooh, Oooh....me too, me too!!!!!!


wow, please form a line boys ;)

[FTL]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Flair is old and should retire. He is so fake. He just pisses everyone off and now he follows HHH around like he's his bitch.


How is Flair fake? Sure, he's old but he can bring something to the table for right now, and I've already explained his position now is to get guys like Batista over. But things have taken a change for the better hopefully, as where Ric will go on his own.

I hate that "too old shit." As long as they can bring something to the table, let them wrestle. By that kinda logic, De Niro and Pacino should quit acting.

[thetodd]

I'd like one last Hogan/Flair feud. Hogan would win, of course, like he always does.

[FTL]

And Flair would make him look better than he really is, like he always does for everybody.

[theshape]

Originally posted by FTL
How is Flair fake? Sure, he's old but he can bring something to the table for right now, and I've already explained his position now is to get guys like Batista over. But things have taken a change for the better hopefully, as where Ric will go on his own.

I hate that "too old shit." As long as they can bring something to the table, let them wrestle. By that kinda logic, De Niro and Pacino should quit acting.


So very very true there, a very good point. Its not age that is the question its the talent and drawing power, flair still has both, not as much as he used too but still anough there to keep him going.

[atomic dog]

what happened last night? i didn't get to see it.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
what happened last night? i didn't get to see it.
Not much.
Undertaker somehow kidnapped Orlando Jordan and had him on a cross at one point, freaking out JBL pretty good. The best part of the evening was Rico and Hass taking on the Dudleys. It was hilarious watching Rico molest those two guys during the bout. It got kind of graphic too. Rico would get behind them and pretend to be humping away. At one point he had his face in Bubbas crotch simulating oral sex. I wouldn't be suprised if they get some heat over that match.
JBL got the best of Hardcore Holly, after which the Undertaker appeared and we saw Orlando Jordan "crucified".
Paul London gave Booker T a good match before finally getting taken out. After the match was over, Booker T grabbed a chair and went after London. Billy Kidman ran
down to the ring and grabbed the chair from Booker, apparently saving his former partner. Of course Kidman then slammed London with the chair himself. I saw that one coming a mile away.
The Big Show only appeared in prefilmed promo for No Mercy, saying how he was going to destroy Angle.
The stipulation for the No Mercy match between the Show and Angle is that if any of Angles buddies interfer, they will be fired.

[atomic dog]

did show show up with his new cut?

[thetodd]

Originally posted by atomic dog
did show show up with his new cut?
He didn't show up on the actual show. They pre-taped a promo of him talking about Angle and No Mercy. Show was in shadows for most of it. We finally saw his face at the end of the promo. It was still kind of in shadows, but it was obvious he is bald. He didn't look as bad as I thought he would, but if I was him, I wouldn't stick with that look. Some guys can get away with the chrome dome look. The Show isn't one of them.

[Beau]

I can't beleave Show is now bald.....:rolleyes:
I can't wait to see him at No Mercy in the full....it's gonna be so funny.

[MichaelMyers]

I haven't been watching WWE in awhile. It drifted away from me the past few months just as it did 5 or 6 years ago when I first stopped watching wrestling. Everyone I knew was watching it besides me. Then I started to watch it again about 3 years ago, but by then everyone stopped watching it.

[Beau]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I haven't been watching WWE in awhile. It drifted away from me the past few months just as it did 5 or 6 years ago when I first stopped watching wrestling. Everyone I knew was watching it besides me. Then I started to watch it again about 3 years ago, but by then everyone stopped watching it.


I have always loved wrestling, i did fall out of wrestling for couple of months in 2001 but got straight back into it and have never stoped loving it since.

[HALLOWEENIE]

I am a Professional Wrestler . If You have any questions about Wrestling ., Just ask .

[Franchise]

Originally posted by HALLOWEENIE
I am a Professional Wrestler . If You have any questions about Wrestling ., Just ask .

What fed do you wrestle for?

[Beau]

Originally posted by HALLOWEENIE
I am a Professional Wrestler . If You have any questions about Wrestling ., Just ask .


What's your wrestler name ?

[myers316]

Here is what I want to see:
Kane (w/mask) vs. Michael Myers

[MichaelMyers]

I made Michael Myers in one of the games. I should play and put him against Kane.

[HALLOWEENIE]

Originally posted by Franchise
What fed do you wrestle for?

Beau ,
I work for The Indies , Mostly in the South Eastern states

[Beau]

Originally posted by HALLOWEENIE
Beau ,
I work for The Indies , Mostly in the South Eastern states

Hmmm....intresting.
Have you got any pics of yourself in the ring :confused:

[myers316]

Originally posted by HALLOWEENIE
Beau ,
I work for The Indies , Mostly in the South Eastern states

Where? Memphis? What promoter do you work for?

[HALLOWEENIE]

Originally posted by Beau
Hmmm....intresting.
Have you got any pics of yourself in the ring :confused:

LOL Of Course I have Pics of Me in the ring .

[HALLOWEENIE]

Originally posted by myers316
Where? Memphis? What promoter do you work for?

No ., Not in Memphis as of yet . There are SEVERAL Promoters ., I might be getting a contract soon in Virginia and North Carolina .

[MichaelMyers]

Anyone actually get the PPV's anymore?

[MichaelMyers]

I only get Wrestlemania now.

[xXxLigerxXx]

Indie wrestlers have many promoters. I, personally think the indies, Japan, and TNA are way better than WWE could ever be. WWE, is 90% Entertainment and 10% wrestling. I'd pick tickets to a small ROH show, over WrestleMania any day. Sorry, that's just how I feel.

[Beau]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I only get Wrestlemania now.

I get all the ppv's.

[myers316]

I only get Wrestlemania no matter what. And the others would be Summerslam or Royal Rumble if the card is good, but that hardly happens anymore.

[myers316]

I wish Paul Heyman would be able to bring back ECW, I really miss it. The wrestlers had so much passion and fans were just crazy into each match. There is a dvd coming by WWE in November called "The Rise and Fall of ECW", it should be really good, their dvds have been really excellent since they aquired the video archives of WCW, ECW, and AWA.

[NeewollaH]

No Mercy, from what I've read, has been a decent PPV. Not bad for SD!...the past few shows have been well done.

[atomic dog]

any results?

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by atomic dog
any results?


JBL is still the champ after the Brock Lesnar wanna be helped him win,and then run over the Undertaker with a truck...

Cena defeated Booker T.

Kidman over London.

didnt pay attention to most other everything

[thetodd]

The Big Show chokeslammed Angle from the top rope, winning the match.
Cena won the US championship.

[MichaelMyers]

Cena's a pimp.

[Col Whizzle]

TNA owns!

Does anybody else agree with me that Jeff Hardy is one of the greatest athletes in the WWE? Besides Mick Foley, I don't think there is anyone in the business of professional wrestling that has taken more bumps than him. Those ladder and TLC matches the Hardy Boyz, Edge & Christian and the Dudley Boyz had were nuts!

His style of wrestling is a mix of Mick Foley and the 123 Kid, with some Shawn Michaels thrown in. He is just great! WWE should regret how they treated him. They lost an amazing athlete.

[Maxvayne]

Originally posted by Col Whizzle
WWE should regret how they treated him. They lost an amazing athlete.


For what? It's WWE fault that he took drugs and blew the drug test? WELL THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.

[thetodd]

Originally posted by Maxvayne
For what? It's WWE fault that he took drugs and blew the drug test? WELL THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.
That's true. Jeffy Hardy screwed himself. Vince would have given him another chance. Eddie Guerrero had the same problem and ended up being WWE champion. If Hardy had wanted to come back to the WWE, he could have.

[Col Whizzle]

Originally posted by Maxvayne
For what? It's WWE fault that he took drugs and blew the drug test? WELL THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.

Compare how they treated Jeff to Sean Waltman.

[myers316]

It's Jeff's own fault, but actually I think he is/was happy about not being in WWE, he said he lost so much passion for wrestling. He had been frequently showing up late for house shows and tv tapings. But I wish he would come back to WWE. He was really a great in ring worker.

[Col Whizzle]

Originally posted by myers316
It's Jeff's own fault, but actually I think he is/was happy about not being in WWE, he said he lost so much passion for wrestling. He had been frequently showing up late for house shows and tv tapings. But I wish he would come back to WWE. He was really a great in ring worker.

Yeah, in a way it probably worked out for the best. Jeff seems happy with TNA.

[NCamp]

Man I havent watched wrestling a couple months. Watched it tonight and remembered why it is so great. Those long legs of Stacy Kiebler. Her legs are like J-Lo's ass. A celebrity unto themselves.

Anyone know what has happened to Test? Is he stuck doing Heat or Velocity?