Toss Up!: Halloween Style

[H-field Hero]

May as well bring this fan favorite back in full force. You all know the drill, but i'll run through it real quick just for our eventual new members. Every so often I'll list two halloween related topics that are reletively similar. You'll be asked to choose one and then explain why you chose it. As before some will be comical and for fun and others will be serious (depending on your definition). Since the board's new I'll start things off with the very first toss up question.

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite Corruthers pet? Sunday or Max.

[Moron86]

I can't believe I never even noticed these things at the UHMB.

I'm gonnna have to go with Max. He tried to warn Rachel that Michael was in the house, but to no avail. Also, Max had a much greater screen presence. lol.

[Michaeleon]

I'm going with Max as well. Sunday looked like a nice, typical family pet but he had no spunk.

Did anyone notice how Tina never gave him his water?

[Dchabz]

i like max,i like his name better :) haha.

[FranchiseHatesMe]

Max has my vote also i dont even remember what dog was named sunday!

[NeewollaH]

Max, because he barked after he croaked..

[The New Guy]

Max because he was trying to be a good watch dog. Poor thing.

[MichaelMyers101]

Max, because he reminds me of my weird golden retriever who barks everytime someone knocks on the door or when she see's someone outside while she's looking out the window...

[Jenn]

I did michaeleon, I felt bad that he never got water. My vote goes to Max as well.

[bundy]

Max!

[halo thirty one]

i'll vote for max, he seemed tougher to me. i bet if he had gotten his water he could have killed michael that day. of course, if that had happened, we would still have tina and spitz in our universe. so i am glad he never got his H20.

[Moron86]

Originally posted by Michaeleon
I'm going with Max as well. Sunday looked like a nice, typical family pet but he had no spunk.

Did anyone notice how Tina never gave him his water?
Originally posted by halo thirty one
i'll vote for max, he seemed tougher to me. i bet if he had gotten his water he could have killed michael that day. of course, if that had happened, we would still have tina and spitz in our universe. so i am glad he never got his H20.

It just had to turn into a Tina bashing session, so typical. :p

[Dchabz]

Originally posted by Moron86
It just had to turn into a Tina bashing session, so typical. :p

lol, yeah what jerks, tina was the shit! hahaha.

[Laow-Z]

Originally posted by icparenumber1
Max has my vote also i dont even remember what dog was named sunday!
Sunday was their dog in H4, got killed and shoved in the closet and Max was their dog in H5, got killed and hung in the attic and as Neewollah said barked after he was dead:o

I like Max better, dobbie's are cool.

[MyersFan927]

Max really did bark after he "died".

[Laow-Z]

Originally posted by MyersFan927
Max really did bark after he "died".
Which has to be the stupidest thing they could've done in the movie..........but that'll be another thread;)

[Mark Warner]

I hate to be the one to do this, but I liked Sundae better. Not because I'm trying to be cool or anything, it's just because he reminded me of a dog I used to have

[Remicis]

Ah, the old Toss Up thread...great to see it again.:)

And my choice is Max...simply because he shares names with Max Weinberg from Conan O'Brien.:D

[Michaeleon]

Originally posted by Moron86
It just had to turn into a Tina bashing session, so typical. :p
You got it all wrong, I was just pointing out a little error. I swear! ;)
I love Tina now. Well, love is a strong word. Let's just say... accept.

TEE-HEE-HEE!

[Moron86]

Originally posted by Michaeleon
You got it all wrong, I was just pointing out a little error. I swear! ;)
I love Tina now. Well, love is a strong word. Let's just say... accept.

TEE-HEE-HEE!

Oh it's on now. :D

[MyersFan927]

To be honest, Tina was fine with me. I don't see why everybody hates her.

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Max...now give us a NEW question! LOL

[H-field Hero]

At the end of halloween 4 we see Loomis and then Meeker pointing a gun at the evil stricken Jamie Lloyd. With that said...

Toss Up!: What would you have done?

Take her head out

or

Refrain from violence and get her treatment

[Superman]

Well the fun thing would be to take her out, but that would mean no more Jamie and no Jamie means no H5 and H6, so I guess get her treatment, but not in that stupid sleep disorder clinic. Maybe put her in the type of hospital the Laurie was in in H:R..you know...pump her full of drugs....lol

[Remicis]

Definitely get her treatment. She was a little girl with a pair of scissors, there were two armed men in the room...she was no threat to anyone else, there would've been no reason to blow her head off. It would've been easy to get the scissors away from her and take her into proper custody. They did right in my book.

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Yeah...the little girl needed serious evaluation and treatment. So that'd be my choice. You can't just go and kill every little girl who decides to stab her foster mother to death (I know, I know...she didn't die...but the intent was there).

[NeewollaH]

Think of it this way...

You're Dr. Loomis, you've seen the terror of Michael. You've been with/studied him for 25 years, you know what he's capable of. When you round the corner of the stairs and see Jamie that way, wouldn't the first thing in your mind be to just off her? Dr. Loomis was going a bit loonie by then anyways, but if I were in his situation, and seen what he saw, I probably would've shot her dead.

[MyersFan927]

Well Loomis wanted to shoot her, but it was Meeker who stopped him from doing that. She might have been evil stricken, but the best thing to do would be to help the girl, not kill her. It must have been something to get her hand off the scissors and take her out of the house, never thought of that!

[Mark Warner]

I would have liked it either way, although if Loomis shot her, that would have been an awesome and even more shocking ending than the original ending of the film

[Demonswrath]

Like NeewollaH said, if I had been studying Michael and all those events have taken place and was not thinking cleary, the reaction would probrobly be shot her in the head.

I know it's over but on the Max vs Sunday, I would chose Sunday. I like that dog better because it was a typical family friendly dog and showed innocents within the house with it's non-violent behavior. Then Michael destroyed it and took all the innocents away from the home. That is why H4's dog was better than H5's dog.

[halo thirty one]

Originally posted by NeewollaH
Think of it this way...

You're Dr. Loomis, you've seen the terror of Michael. You've been with/studied him for 25 years, you know what he's capable of. When you round the corner of the stairs and see Jamie that way, wouldn't the first thing in your mind be to just off her? Dr. Loomis was going a bit loonie by then anyways, but if I were in his situation, and seen what he saw, I probably would've shot her dead.

yup. i think the only thing that prevented this was sheriff meeker's leveheadedness.

[theoutfieldguy]

Shoot her down...with bullets,of course.:D
Taking no chances on a female Shape.

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
Shoot her down...with bullets,of course.:D
Taking no chances on a female Shape. haha. Hows Bernie Mac say? "If your old enough to talk shit, your old enough to get f*cked up!" Of course her actions spoke louder than her words lol.

[Laow-Z]

Bout time for a new one Matt???

[MischievousSpirit]

Yeah, where's the new toss up?

[H-field Hero]

I'm pathetic. This is my flagship thread and I always forget about it. Lets get the new toss up from our producer over the loud speaker...

Toss Up!: Who would you rather have babysitting your kids?

Rachel Corruthers or Laurie Strode

[FTL]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
[BToss Up!: What would you have done?
Take her head out
or
Refrain from violence and get her treatment [/B]


This is old but let me get in on this.

I don't know what I would have done. If I was Loomis and my mind was running around all over from the night's events and I saw Jamie with the knife in hand at the top of the stair case after hearing the scream of the mother, my first instinct would to be: shoot to kill.

If you look closely in the scene before Michael is shot to shit, Jamie makes physical contact with him. It might be looking too much into it, but when that happened and when I saw her at the top of the stair case in her appearance, to me what I gained from it was that the evil was somehow passed on. Loomis saw it and was gonna put a stop to it before it could get any worse. Meeker prevented him from doing it and did the exact same action before he saw it and froze in his tracks.

I guess it all would depend on my train of thought and my reasoning at that time that would have decided whether or not I would've gave Jamie a led salad at that very second.

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
I'm pathetic. This is my flagship thread and I always forget about it. Lets get the new toss up from our producer over the loud speaker...

Toss Up!: Who would you rather have babysitting your kids?

Rachel Corruthers or Laurie Strode

Rachel. Laurie has some "issues" and her brother might come on over and hack up the kids. But if i didnt know anything about it then i would pick Lauire cause she is quiet and i can pay her less and she wont even make a noise about it. :)

[MischievousSpirit]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Toss Up!: Who would you rather have babysitting your kids?

Rachel Corruthers or Laurie Strode

Laurie Strode, even at 17 she seemed more maternal, and responsible than Rachel did. Rachel was just the sister type in the beginning, but right away you could see the maternal instincts in Laurie for Tommy when they're walking to the Myers house.

[Kara Strode]

Laurie for sure...she seemed more responsible

[halo thirty one]

rachel's my girl. i wish i could marry her. still, does that make her a better choice for a babysitter? this is a tough one. rachel seems more interested in boys than laurie, so would she be paying 100% attention to my child? but then again, i don't remember seeing rach smoking pot before going to a babysitting job. hmm, maybe laurie is the best choice. she seems more interested in the job, where rachel basically had to be forced to do it.

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by MischievousSpirit
Laurie Strode, even at 17 she seemed more maternal, and responsible than Rachel did. Rachel was just the sister type in the beginning, but right away you could see the maternal instincts in Laurie for Tommy when they're walking to the Myers house.

OMG...I'm gonna quote you and just say "I agree" like all the other annoying people do on here. :p

[Laow-Z]

Definately Laurie. She took care of the kids, one of which she wasn't even supposed to. Rachel lost Jamie within 30 sec. of leaving her sight.

[H-field Hero]

Again, thanks for all the particpation from you guys. Fans of the first toss up thread on the UHMB will recall this next one being done before, but with so many new members and time thats passed, I think i'll do it again. It's one of my favorites.

Lets get the new toss up from our producer over the loud speaker...

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite Haddonfield Sheriff?

Ben Meeker or Leigh Brackett

[Laow-Z]

I like Meeker a little better. He was a little tougher. He'd spit once and grab himself a shotgun (according to Earl):D

[Ashleigh]

Meeker. I think he cared a little more about the people of Haddonfield. Not to say that Brackett didn't, but eh, that's my opinion. :)

[theevilisgone44]

Beau Starr has always been one of my favorite actors in the series. Ben Meeker looked like a stand up guy; however, I always liked the repoire between Dr. Loomis and Leigh Brackett.

[Remicis]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
I'm pathetic. This is my flagship thread and I always forget about it. Lets get the new toss up from our producer over the loud speaker...

Toss Up!: Who would you rather have babysitting your kids?

Rachel Corruthers or Laurie Strode

Laurie gets my vote for much the same reason that others have provided. Not so much that she seems more mature or responsible or anything of that nature, just that I'd know the kids would have her complete and undivided attention because she's a geek and wouldn't be working out any social gatherings at the same time.;) I think Rachel would definitely care for the kids...she wouldn't be flippant about it like, say, Annie, and she's not exactly promiscuous, so I'd really trust either one with my kids. But Rachel's more like a normal teenager, so she's more likely to get distracted with other activities than Laurie.

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Again, thanks for all the particpation from you guys. Fans of the first toss up thread on the UHMB will recall this next one being done before, but with so many new members and time thats passed, I think i'll do it again. It's one of my favorites.

Lets get the new toss up from our producer over the loud speaker...

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite Haddonfield Sheriff?

Ben Meeker or Leigh Brackett

I answered this one on the UHMB, why the hell isn't it still around so I can clone my old response? LOL Anyway, my choice is Meeker. It could be because he had the benefit of Brackett's experience ten years before, but nevertheless, he took Loomis more seriously and took a more active role in trying to keep the town safe from Michael. Plus, he just seems like an all-around tougher son of a bitch than Brackett. He was perhaps one step removed from the rifle-toting rednecks in the evolutionary web.;)

[H-field Hero]

I'm going with Meeker. This choice takes nothing away from Leigh Brackett and/or Charles Cyphers performance. He was fantastic and very realistic of a small town sheriff. Meeker's the man though! He has the benefit of hindsight, which gives him an advantage and he uses it. Plus, as some of you have mentioned, he's a tough SOB. In the novel, Grabowsky says, "if people could be depicted as animals Meeker would be a grizzley bear". Not to mention the fact that he packs some serious heat... Spaz 12 auto pump anyone?

The chemistry between him and Loomis is priceless.

Originally posted by theevilisgone44
Beau Starr has always been one of my favorite actors in the series. You and I are going to get alone great!

[HEcamehome]

So hard to choose!

[theevilisgone44]

Ben Meeker getting shot-up in the station....give me a break! I wish he could've appeared in more sequels.


"What the hell you need ball bearings for?"

[theoutfieldguy]

Originally posted by theevilisgone44
Ben Meeker getting shot-up in the station....give me a break! I wish he could've appeared in more sequels.


For real.And he gets my vote as well.
Although I like Deputy Hunt above all the Haddonfield cops,yes even more than those clown fools.

[theevilisgone44]

Originally posted by theoutfieldguy
For real.And he gets my vote as well.
Although I like Deputy Hunt above all the Haddonfield cops,yes even more than those clown fools.

Deputy Hunt...nice one...good ole' Hunter Von Leer!! "...I think one of them was Annie."

[Laow-Z]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
You and I are going to get alone great!
Well then i won't interupt you guy's:D

[urg]

meeker, because he actually did more than brackett did. meeker took loomis seriously, and put out a public warning on the news to get everyone off the streets. brackett could have and should have done more.

to bad meeker had to die, man what a waste.

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by Laow-Z
Well then i won't interupt you guy's:D

LMAO. ;)

[H-field Hero]

This one may have a limited reponse, but whatever.

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite halloween script protagonist?

David Lytener (spirits of the dead) or Jimmy Scarfo (locked and loaded)

[The Dark Shape]

Ellie Sumner ;) In all seriousness, I'd give the edge to Scarfo. Lytner struck me as a "been there, done that" kind of character. Not necessarily Remicis or EOTL's fault, it just stayed with me as I read the script.

[SpawnOfEvil]

I'd have to say Tommy in Halloween 6. He spent his entire life, obsessed with finding Michael Myers and finally in Halloween 6 he had the great encounter with Michael, where he also kept a handful of people safe. He was your average guy at home, who managed to save the day. Even when he heard the lady screaming after Loomis told him to stay, he got concerned and went to see what was up.

Let's see though. Between Scarfo and Lytener? I'd have to go with Lytener, unlike many of the other protagonists, he never really actually did the stereotypical encounter with Michael. Michael saw him one time at the end, and left him. He spent most of his time fighting Tommy, the true villian while Michael showed up to rescue Steven. I liked that.

[gerry d]

Originally posted by H-field Hero

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite Haddonfield Sheriff?

Ben Meeker or Leigh Brackett

I would probably say Brackett because i loved the scenes between him & Loomis in HII

Originally posted by H-field Hero

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite halloween script protagonist?

David Lytener (spirits of the dead) or Jimmy Scarfo (locked and loaded)

I don't have a clue who these 2 people are?

cheers

[FTL]

Originally posted by gerry d
I don't have a clue who these 2 people are?

cheers


Two characters from scripts in the Library forum.

[gerry d]

Originally posted by FTL
Two characters from scripts in the Library forum.

Thanxs for clearing that up for me FTL.That is one section of the board that i never visit.

cheers

[SpawnOfEvil]

I also say Max. He tried to bark and warn Rachel about Michael.

Plus he had a cool name and was a Dobie. I like Dobermans better than lil wuss dogs like Sunday *growls at Sunday and sicks Max on him*

[FTL]

I think I'll jump in on this one then.

I can't remember Lytener too well cause it's been awhile since I've read Spirits of the Dead. Yes, the character did come off to be a "been there, done that" type, but I liked him. He wasn't really after Michael, but the truth. The events that involved him, murders, cult, etc. If I can remember, Lytener was just a regular ol reporter who was always into his work more than anything, like it always seemed to come first.

Now Scarfo...haha..this guy isn't your "do it by the books" cop. The reason he is the best in the Haddonfield Police Department is because 1) he's willing to plant corroborative evidence on a suspect he knew was guilty in order to ensure an indictment, 2) be willing to shoot hardened armed robbers in the back to offset the chance that they might utilize flaws in the legal system and go free, 3) willing to beat confessions out of suspects he knew to be guilty, and 4) willing to rig crime scene evidence to support a prosecuting attorney's working hypothesis. Not that he does this at all in the script but this is just the detective he is, willing to get the job done at any cost. You may not like him, but he keeps the scum off the street. He's tough and arrogant and will get in anyone's face in a heart beat, but too much of that eventually led to his downfall from the top of the mountain.

I know I'm probably supposed to pick my character, but it's a hard decision. I lean towards Lytener because of his simplicity, but I lean toward Scarfo cause I just love how brass he is.

[Dr. Wynn]

Lytener

THAT SPIRETS OF THE DEAD SCRIPT WAS F****** AWSOME!!!

[The Dark Shape]

See what I said about playing favorites, FTL? :)

[Remicis]

Seeing as how one of the two is my creation, it's likely next to impossible for me to make an entirely objective decision...not to mention it would be kinda sticky no matter which one I chose. If it were Lytener, I'd come off as just biased. If it were Scarfo, not getting behind my character wouldn't appear to speak too well for him, y'know?;) But nevertheless, as a Toss Up regular, what I'm gonna do is straddle the fence and tell what I like about both.:D

I won't dispute the assertion that Lytener fits what's pretty much the modern archetype of reporters in fiction. But then, he really wasn't intended to break any new ground character-wise. He was a plot device more than anything else...my mechanism for bringing all the story's requisite expositional material to light for the audience. Had Spirits of the Dead been a novel, I could've done everything I wanted to with him to really make him a unique and resonant character. But as it was (being a script and having so much else to cover in the story), I had to put that desire aside and just worry about making him likeable, someone the audience could get behind. To do that, I did make an effort to have him be more altruistic than the average character of his type. Sure, he'll do most anything to get his story, including willingly putting himself in danger, but he draws the line when others' lives come into it. For instance, he never would've allowed his wife to tag along for part of his investigation if he'd initially known the deadly risk associated with it. And no matter how much fame or money it might gain for him, he'd bury a story if he deemed it too dangerous for publication...as we saw at the very end. In that respect, I think he shone and made for a good protagonist. He and Lewis Preston from Locked and Loaded would not get along well at all.;)

And in the same vein, we've also seen Scarfo's type before...Kurt Russell's character in Dark Blue, Mickey Rourke's character in Year of the Dragon, Michael Chiklis's character in The Shield, just to name a few. But while fitting the same basic mold as these other bad-ass, fuck-the-book cops, Scarfo also has his own defining characteristics. This is where I think putting 9/11 into his background was a great touch...it gave us an insight into his more compassionate, respectable side and helped to show that, amidst whatever other flaws he may have, he only does things the way he does because he cares about people and wants to be sure the scum stays off the street and doesn't harm them. Despite his more reprehensible qualities, we see his definitive heroic streak...as we should in any strong protagonist.

I think both carry their respective stories nicely.

[Andrew73]

My vote is Max since MM got Sunday/Sundee got it right away.

[FTL]

Originally posted by Remicis
He and Lewis Preston from Locked and Loaded would not get along well at all.;)

And in the same vein, we've also seen Scarfo's type before...Kurt Russell's character in Dark Blue, Mickey Rourke's character in Year of the Dragon, Michael Chiklis's character in The Shield, just to name a few.


This is interesting. Mickey Rourke. What tendencies did Scarfo give off to make Year of the Dragon come to mind? :D

[Cruel Intentions]

I vote Max.

I haven't seen this thread over at UHMB, my question is do we ever go to another question?

[FTL]

You wait for the man to give you a question.

[Cruel Intentions]

Originally posted by FTL
You wait for the man to give you a question.

I see, thanks!

[Remicis]

Originally posted by FTL
This is interesting. Mickey Rourke. What tendencies did Scarfo give off to make Year of the Dragon come to mind? :D

Sweet. I'm not the only one who's seen Year of the Dragon.:D But he came to mind as I read the story simply because he was also far from a "by the book" cop. Captain Stanley White also did whatever it took to keep the scum off the street, and he was a bit of an arrogant prick, to boot...all of which led to the royal mess made of Chinatown and the personal suffering brought on White himself, just as Scarfo's bravado contributed to his own fall from grace.;)

[FTL]

Shiit, you really looked into some things. Probably the only one who got really in depth. You nailed it though.

[H-field Hero]

Toss Up!: Who's the better (your favorite) 'gray haired, evil mastermind'?

Terence Wynn or Conal Cochran

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Toss Up!: Who's the better (your favorite) 'gray haired, evil mastermind'?

Terence Wynn or Conal Cochran

Finally something having to do with H3!!

My choice is Conal Cochran (surprise, surprise) because he was a fiendish warlock with far more superior powers than Dr. Wynn. Cochran had tons of tricks up his sleeve and had a greater amount of evil on his side, where Wynn was just a normal human being who harbored Michael and belonged to a cult. Cochran's capabilities makes him a stronger character. His ability to charm and make people believe he's a jovial man is another quality I enjoy about him - especially because we all know what he's hiding and what his intentions are. It all boils down to who you'd be more frightened of. Cochran is that person.

[Remicis]

This one's kind of a tough call. Both are pretty sick puppies when you really think about it. If you go by the P-Cut of H6, yeah, Wynn was just a deluded cult leader who acted as Michael's bodyguard, but in the T-Cut, there's a little more to his sinister side than that. Granted, the movie isn't all that clear on exactly what he was doing, but we do know that he was experimenting with evil. The general speculation, mine included, is that he was attempting to create it in its ultimate form. We were also shown that he wasn't really a Druid, so it stands to reason that the Thorn cult was a separate entity from him and his fellow doctors that they likely infiltrated...and possibly served as the inspiration for their subsequent experiments. And we saw the woman in the Maximum Security ward die, we saw the babies developing in the tanks in the lab, we saw the DNA charts...this all supports the theory that he was using the patients as donors for whatever he needed and growing genetically engineered test-tube babies in his trial-and-error quest for the perfect evil...something he was obsessed with. Anyone who's disgusted with abortion or stem cell research would likely find him all the more despicable.

But Cochran is no slouch either. He wanted to kill vast amounts of innocent children, and that's not a very nice thing to do. And I think he and Wynn shared the ability to cover up their true natures with benevolent facades. Matter of fact, I thought Wynn was quite good at passing himself off as a good, friendly doctor. If anything, it was his malevolent side that was tougher to buy. Mitch Ryan isn't the most threatening presence in the world.;) But what it comes down to for me is who's more depraved...both are bad guys, but the edge goes to the bigger psychopath. My choice in this department is Wynn.

While Cochran did want to wipe out all those kids, he had a relatively more understandable (though still very misguided) motive for his actions. He was a warlock and was sickened at the cheapening and commercialization of a day he held sacred. He had an axe to grind with those who had defiled something very important to him. Wynn, on the other hand, has no remotely justifiable or logical reasoning for his atrocities. Simply because he harbors a crazed fixation on the idea of evil, he tortures his patients with operations and manipulates human babies like lab rats. Taking this into account, I think even someone like Cochran would find him reprehensible.

[halo thirty one]

i'll go with conal cochran, he was more ambitious trying to take out an entire country of children, all in one night. plus i really dislike the whole thorn cult story.

[Remicis]

Originally posted by halo thirty one
plus i really dislike the whole thorn cult story.

Intolerable. You will vote pro-Thorn or you will be destroyed.;)

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Originally posted by Remicis
Intolerable. You will vote pro-Thorn or you will be destroyed.;)
Yeah...what's up, halo? Didn't you read our script?!?!

And yeah...I'm going with Cochran here.

[halo thirty one]

Originally posted by EvilOnTwoLegs
Yeah...what's up, halo? Didn't you read our script?!?!

And yeah...I'm going with Cochran here.

yeah, i'm sorry, but i haven't actually read it yet. i probably should one day. EOTL, help me out in the robocop vs. terminator thread i made. people are posting like i want to see the idea made into another VS. movie, not a discussion on which movie they prefer.

and like i said before, vote cochran in '04.

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Originally posted by halo thirty one
yeah, i'm sorry, but i haven't actually read it yet. i probably should one day. EOTL, help me out in the robocop vs. terminator thread i made. people are posting like i want to see the idea made into another VS. movie, not a discussion on which movie they prefer.

and like i said before, vote cochran in '04.
To paraphrase a very old Alka Seltzer commercial...Read it, you'll like it!

And yeah, I'll definitely have to get in on that thread...especially since I feel somewhat responsible for its existence. ;)

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by halo thirty one
and like i said before, vote cochran in '04.

hehe I was going to put something like "Cochran For President in 2008" in my signature, or the same thing but with Tom Atkins.

Cochran kicks ass! He'd laugh while squishing Wynn like a bug. He's the man!

[Dr. Wynn]

guess who I pick

come on guess

Wynn was a little more twisted and evil
I also think he was smarter posing as a Thorn member to get his hands on the baby to create the purest form of evil

I like Cochran though
I just think he was a saint compared to Wynns evil sadistic mind

and lets all remember Dr Loomis' quote (to Wynn)

Loomis(to Wynn)-I thought Michael was a monster but you....

now that should really say something

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by Dr Wynn
guess who I pick

come on guess

Wynn was a little more twisted and evil
I also think he was smarter posing as a Thorn member to get his hands on the baby to create the purest form of evil

I like Cochran though
I just think he was a saint compared to Wynns evil sadistic mind

and lets all remember Dr Loomis' quote (to Wynn)

Loomis(to Wynn)-I thought Michael was a monster but you....

now that should really say something

You should go into detail explaining why you believe Wynn is more twisted and evil, as well as hitting on major points to explain why he's the better mastermind. What made Wynn so great? What would you say to someone who pointed out Cochran's biggest strengths and his lack of sympathy, mercy, etc. and therefore defend Cochran as their answer?

[LoomisFan4Life]

tough question. I will go with Cochran (barely) over Wynn. Cochran had robot lackey's attack people, and his plan was dealing with children.

[Dr. Wynn]

Cochran was justifiably mad at the world because they took away something he held sacred which was the old Samhain traditions of Halloween

Wynn on the other hand was willing to kill a family, betray his best friend, and kill God knows how many innocent women and fetuses for his own egotistical needs

and he even used his best friend and Michael to get what he was after

also his list of betrayals are endless he betrayed Loomis, Michael, and hundreds of innocent women he managed to manipulate

And he did all this for what?
Science?
Evil?
Himself?

all of the above is what makes him more ruthless, manipulative, evil and smarter than Cochran

[Dr. Wynn]

I must point out that there is a entire thread about the Cochran vs Wynn thing on the H3 board

I think its time for another toss up

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by Dr Wynn
I think its time for another toss up

When Matt is ready for a new one, he'll post the nex toss-up. Patience, my friend ;)

[Dr. Wynn]

Originally posted by MyersFan927
When Matt is ready for a new one, he'll post the nex toss-up. Patience, my friend ;)

sorry
I just love these toss-ups

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by Dr Wynn
sorry
I just love these toss-ups

By the way, Cochran is better and don't you say otherwise!!! ;)

[Dr. Wynn]

:eek: ooo really

then why is he dead and Wynn alive and kickin?

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by Dr Wynn
:eek: ooo really

then why is he dead and Wynn alive and kickin?

Cochran is probably not dead. Just because he disappeared in the end? ;) He escaped to some other universe to wreak havoc there...can Dr. Loser - I mean Wynn - do that? At least Cochran has true control over his robots. Michael played Wynn like the banjo. :D

[Dr. Wynn]

Originally posted by MyersFan927
Michael played Wynn like the banjo. :D

how do you figure that?

I think its the exact opposite (in the T-Cut anyway)
Wynn wanted the baby
he joined the cult without believing in what they were doing
he used them, Loomis and Michael to get the baby
but instead of handing the baby over to Michael Wynn kept it
when Michael released what Wynn did he killed his cronies but Wynn managed to slip away

I do like Cochran but he is no Wynn
and I think its safe to say neither of them are coming back

[Remicis]

Originally posted by MyersFan927
At least Cochran has true control over his robots. Michael played Wynn like the banjo. :D

Pfft. I would hope so. It would be truly sad if he were so incompetent as to not be able to control things with absolutely no free will of their own.;) And Wynn being played by Michael doesn't so much speak badly for Wynn as it does praisingly for Michael. If he'd ever crossed paths with Cochran, he'd also play that old fart like a fiddle as accompaniment to his banjo.:D

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by Remicis
Pfft. I would hope so. It would be truly sad if he were so incompetent as to not be able to control things with absolutely no free will of their own.;) And Wynn being played by Michael doesn't so much speak badly for Wynn as it does praisingly for Michael. If he'd ever crossed paths with Cochran, he'd also play that old fart like a fiddle as accompaniment to his banjo.:D

I see what you mean, but at you're forgetting something. Cochran knew his limitations. Wynn was foolish to believe he could have a hold on evil in its purest form and so it backfired on him. Cochran was a downright genius. He knew what would appeal to young children on Halloween and carefully built his master plan. The terror he caused happened on a much larger scale. Contrary to popular belief, Cochran was NOT a human being, but a sorcerer with unimaginable powers of witchcraft who has been unleashing evil for many many years in all different forms. Could a human being transport a piece of Stonehenge to the United States? Or create life-like androids? Wynn's strengths could not compare. Sure, he had some successes and obviously did whatever he needed to get his way, but he's not much different than just a plain out bad and ruthless person.

There's no way Cochran died in the end of H3. It was too simple. Read the novel, guys. Or just use some common sense. Do you really think after all that has been done that he just died so easily?

[theoutfieldguy]

Conal Cochran,I dont like the man.I vote for Wynn.:D

[MischievousSpirit]

Cochran was the bomb! Wynn was the total DUD! :D

[Dr. Wynn]

Ill say it again Wynn played Michael
he used him to get the baby
and when he got it he didnt give to Myers
Myers found out and TRIED to kill Wynn but failed

Wynn is the man!

[Dr. Wynn]

Lommis(to Wynn)-You are a madman.

Loomis(to Wynn)-I thought Michael was a monster but you......

those quotes alone should end the debate as to who is better

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Fuck, man...can we get a new topic here? This discussion is runnin' on fumes at this point.

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by EvilOnTwoLegs
Fuck, man...can we get a new topic here? This discussion is runnin' on fumes at this point.

Tell me about it...come on, Matt, give us a new topic! ;)

[Dr. Wynn]

Originally posted by MyersFan927
Tell me about it...come on, Matt, give us a new topic! ;)

i agree
we are long over due

PS take all Cochran vs Wynn discussions to the thread on the H3 forum

[Remicis]

Bah. I wasn't done yet, so you ladies can suffer through more.;)

Originally posted by MyersFan927
I see what you mean, but at you're forgetting something. Cochran knew his limitations. Wynn was foolish to believe he could have a hold on evil in its purest form and so it backfired on him. Cochran was a downright genius. He knew what would appeal to young children on Halloween and carefully built his master plan. The terror he caused happened on a much larger scale. Contrary to popular belief, Cochran was NOT a human being, but a sorcerer with unimaginable powers of witchcraft who has been unleashing evil for many many years in all different forms. Could a human being transport a piece of Stonehenge to the United States? Or create life-like androids? Wynn's strengths could not compare. Sure, he had some successes and obviously did whatever he needed to get his way, but he's not much different than just a plain out bad and ruthless person.

There's no way Cochran died in the end of H3. It was too simple. Read the novel, guys. Or just use some common sense. Do you really think after all that has been done that he just died so easily?

I won't dispute that Cochran's the bigger villain of the two, but that's not what I've been addressing. Sure, Cochran went for a larger scale and everything, but Wynn simply had different ambitions. He was interested in his twisted scientific endeavors while Cochran was going for grand-scale revenge. That's one of the things I think makes him more interesting. And now that you mention Cochran's superpowers, I just realized that's probably another reason I don't like him so much. It's the way I am, it extends to my superhero preferences as well. I like Batman because he had to work to become what he is, whereas Superman, Spider-Man, and most of the others pretty much had the ability to become superheroes handed to them on silver platters. In the same vein, Wynn is just a normal old man, so he only has his intellect to rely on instead of warlock powers and jumping into other dimensions and whatnot. His greater power was in the employment of the arts of deception and betrayal. So if you want to go back into who's more evil, according to Dante, he'll be burning in a deeper level of hell than Cochran.;)

[FTL]

I definitely see what you're saying. Basically things are different when purposes aren't the same. Cochran wanted revenge, understandable. Anybody could want revenge for something. But Wynn was willing to kill, use and manipulate women and sacrifice their innocent babies for his own purpose therefore making him more of a sadistic bastard.

[Dr. Wynn]

Originally posted by Remicis



So if you want to go back into who's more evil, according to Dante, he'll be burning in a deeper level of hell than Cochran.;)

you can say that again

[Dr. Wynn]

and like Remicis said Wynn doesn't have an endless supply of Warlock powers
yet he managed to do a lot

Wynn is indeed more evil
and in H6 he might have been a greater villian then Michael himself

[H-field Hero]

ENOUGH!

Toss UP!: Who's your favorite "Laurie Strode like" character?

Kara Strode or Rachel Corruthers

[Dr. Wynn]

Kara Strode

Rachel was way to weak and innocent

Kara came off as being tougher

[Laow-Z]

Definately Kara, she would do anything to protect Danny and proved it. Rachel lost jamie while trick-or-treating, not too responsible if you ask me.

[MyersFan927]

Kara Strode. She's one of my favorite characters of all because she had so much heroism, even more than Rachel. Kara went through many lengths to protect her son, others, and also herself. She reminds me a lot of Laurie, and in some ways she's even better than her. Kara has more of a backstory. We know a lot about what her life is like and there is a lot of character development from her in Halloween 6.

Originally posted by Dr Wynn
and in H6 he might have been a greater villian then Michael himself

I wouldn't go that far.

[Dr. Wynn]

Originally posted by MyersFan927
I wouldn't go that far.

Ill meet you on the H3 board!

sorry guys
back to the Toss up

[Michaeleon]

Definitely Kara Strode.

She did relate a lot to the 'Laurie' character. While Kara wasn't pure and innocent as Laurie, she still carried that quiet and subdued mannerism. The one trait I liked most is that she spoke her mind and put in her word when she found it needed.
So Kara had a kid early in life, and she’s left raising him alone. Yet we find she's putting her life together and attempting to carry on with an existence with a head on her shoulders. I'd agree with MyersFan927, she had quite a bit of character development considering she was only in one sequel.
One scene of Kara's that especially reminds me of Laurie is the one where she arrives home from school.

[myershall]

I will say Rachel
to me she just seemed to have to go through a lot more than kara

[NCamp]

Kara was a fighter, so therefor she was like Laurie Strode the most. Rachel was kind of a Jamie character, weak and fragile, but still a fighter and a survivor. But I still love Rachel's character, Kara just epitomises the essence of Laurie's character the best.

[Remicis]

As much as I hate a cop-out like simply saying, "I agree," what else is there for me to say? Michaeleon and MyersFan were pretty dead-on in the reasons I'd also have for choosing Kara Strode. She gets my vote. I like her even better than Laurie.

[LoomisFan4Life]

yeah Kara for sure. As much as I would like to say Rachel, she wasn't really like Jamie at all.

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Kara Strode, no question. Really, I was never quite sure why everyone was so crazy about Rachel. She was fairly selfish at times...not wanting to babysit cuz it screwed up her plans, losing Jamie while trick or treating cuz she has to talk to her boyfriend...sure, she gets more protective toward the end of the movie, but she wasn't really that great...not so much that her death in H5 bothered me in the least, as it seems to have bothered everyone else. I thought it was a ballsy move to kill her off, in fact.

Kara had a very strong maternal instinct and would clearly do anything for Danny. She's extremely protective of him, and vice versa. Not only is she more like the original incarnation of Laurie Strode, she's just all-around the better character.

[H-field Hero]

Toss Up!: Which is the better famous stalk scene ?

Halloween 4 roof top chase or Halloween 5 laundry chute mayhem

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Toss Up!: Which is the better famous stalk scene ?

Halloween 4 roof top chase or Halloween 5 laundry chute mayhem

I'm going with the laundry chute scene. Reason being becuase I liked Jamie more than Rachel, the chase was confined to a claustaphobic space adding fear, and Michael actually stabs her. He draws blood, with Rachel he misses and she just falls off the roof. Still a wound but not as frightening as the chute scene.

It really boils down to the confinement aspect of it. With the roof scene there was open space, the whole town around you. With Jamie it was her in the basement inside the laundry chut climbing up as Michael slashed through. Pretty intense.

[Silverpsycho]

For me it's Halloween 4 roof top chase since I love when Rachel gets so pissy with Jamie when trying to get off the roof! Plus Michael looks so funky while trying to walk up there...lol. It's the most enjoyable for me. :D

[Dr. Wynn]

I liked the roof-top chase
its scary without Michael and it terrifing with him

[urg]

i say the laundry chute scene in h5 because it is a one on one situation instead of a two on one situation. jamie had no one to help her in the basement: loomis was injured, the cops were gone, and rachel and charlie were dead.

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by urg
i say the laundry chute scene in h5 because it is a one on one situation instead of a two on one situation. jamie had no one to help her in the basement: loomis was injured, the cops were gone, and rachel and charlie were dead. Thats a good point. It was an instance where it was totally up to her for survival.

[redneck05]

ok o.O

[H-field Hero]

Back from a long lay off. For all of those not familiar with how this works please revert to the 1st post in the thread. And as always, enjoy.

Toss Up!: Which film has the better score?
Halloween H2o or Halloween: Resurrection

Note: When I refering to H2o's score i'm talking about what we hear in the actual film. Not John Ottman's alternately titled soundtrack.

[MyersFan927]

Woo-hoo! Toss-up returns.

Okay, so I'll go with H20's score, even though it features some crappy Scream-type music at times. H20 has what I like to call the "symphony" score, which is self-explanatory when you listen to the music. Aside from the powerfully composed main titles theme, the best parts of the score usually occur whenever we see Laurie/Keri. It is music that suggests insecurity and sadness, which appropriately fits the character herself.

All in all, Resurrection does not have such a bad soundtrack. There are a few stinkers, but also a few pleasant surprises too. Nothing spectacular though. When the CD comes in the mail I'll have the final verdict, but judging from the movie and downloads, it is not better than H20.

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Unfortunately, I have to go with H:R. I really hate to go with anything from that waste of celluloid, but they fumbled the ball on H20 by discarding most of Ottman's incredible score.

[Raechull]

Originally posted by MyersFan927
Max really did bark after he "died".

Yeah that was reatarded....she bumped into him and it barked..WTF!?

I liked Sunday because he was cute and loveable...a traditional family pet. One most can relate to I think so it was more sad when Sunday was killed :(.

BTW...what is with Michael killing dogs? LOL he killed the shepard in 1, Sunday in 4, and Max in 5.

[TheShape2005]

Originally posted by Raechull
Yeah that was reatarded....she bumped into him and it barked..WTF!?

I liked Sunday because he was cute and loveable...a traditional family pet. One most can relate to I think so it was more sad when Sunday was killed :(.

BTW...what is with Michael killing dogs? LOL he killed the shepard in 1, Sunday in 4, and Max in 5.

it was just to make the audience to React to it! nothing more! I would go with neither one because I'm like Michael I don't like Dogs

[6Michael6Myers6]

Originally posted by TheShape2005
it was just to make the audience to React to it! nothing more! I would go with neither one because I'm like Michael I don't like Dogs

me neither...i like cats better...but in regards to the initial question i would go with Max...he was just that fun loving kind of pet that cared about his owners and tried to protect them...how i wish Rachel had seen the signs...:(

[benluvin]

is thier a new topic, i wana get into this thread. i like it.

[Remicis]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Back from a long lay off. For all of those not familiar with how this works please revert to the 1st post in the thread. And as always, enjoy.

Toss Up!: Which film has the better score?
Halloween H2o or Halloween: Resurrection

Note: When I refering to H2o's score i'm talking about what we hear in the actual film. Not John Ottman's alternately titled soundtrack.

I also have to go with H:R here. While it's overall nothing special, I like the rendition of the main theme and the music that plays when Laurie dies. There are other spots, such as the "The End is Near" and "The Worst is Over" tracks (if you have the CD) that are noteworthy as well.

H20...can't speak so highly for that one. I like Ottman's original score pretty well, even felt it had some Elfman-ish points in it, but sadly, "legal disputes" kept them from using that original material and drove them to use copyrighted music from already-existing movies. ...Who wants to explain that one to me?

Anyway, knowing and being able to pick out the bits from Scream and Mimic really took me out of the movie. Especially since they didn't even sound remotely like traditional Halloween music. I'm not a huge fan of Marco Beltrami anyway, but even if they were gonna use some of his music, they could've chosen better. The whining trumpets and cacophonous percussion didn't tickle my fancy at all.

[H-field Hero]

Toss Up!: What's the better Halloween inspired song?

What is this life for? By Creed or Fools shine on by Brother Cane

[boogeyman87]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Toss Up!: What's the better Halloween inspired song?

What is this life for? By Creed or Fools shine on by Brother Cane

Would Local H's "P.J. Soles" fit into this toss up? If so then I'd pick that song hands down. If not, I'd go with "Whats is This Life For."

[scarymoviechap]

Fools shine on by Brother Cane? What is that, please someone, if you can share the trivia?

[Laow-Z]

Originally posted by scarymoviechap
Fools shine on by Brother Cane? What is that, please someone, if you can share the trivia?
It's a song....don't know what you're asking? Anyway, i'll go with Creed just cause i like that song better. I really don't like any "Popular" songs in horror movies..just doesn't seem real then.

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Fools Shine On...though I must say, Creed is for rockers.



...I wonder how many people left on the board even get that joke.

[TheShape2005]

And Fools Shine on!!!

[H-field Hero]

A short break from halloween topics..

Toss Up!: Which is the "least bad" shark flick?

Jaws: 3D or Jaws: the revenge

[benluvin]

im going to say jaws:revenge. i dont like any really but i think lives is better of the 2.

[MyersFan927]

Jaws: Revenge has got to be one of the dumbest, laughable, and embarassing movies I have ever seen. To have it in the same series as the original is practically an insult, because the story is flimsy and without any credibility to be taken seriously. We're supposed to believe that a shark is capable of revenge, so he/she follows Lorraine Gary and her family to a tropical island! There are many times when it is evident that the shark is completely fake, and we can even observe the presence of wires and mechanisms underneath the rubber creation. What a waste of time for the actors who shed any kind of effort for this dissapointing and thankfully final sequel.

Jaws 3 is an uneven addition to the series that at least has some tense moments and an interesting and somewhat new storyline. Years after the events of the first two movies, one of the Brody sons is an employee of an amusement park not too different from Sea World, and a beastly (even bigger than the original one) shark finds its way into the park - with a baby, no less! A slight change of pace with two man-eaters, one of them being a woman - very politically correct ;) Some enjoyable moments and good performances highlight this fair but satisfying sequel. I love the death scenes, music, and small touches of humor as well. My favorite scene is when Mommy appears at the lounge behind the glass, and everyone - including Lou Gossett - is stunned beyond belief!

[MyersFan75]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
A short break from halloween topics..

Toss Up!: Which is the "least bad" shark flick?

Jaws: 3D or Jaws: the revenge

Revenge.
It brought back Mrs. Kintner and the REAL Brody's.
Plus, the fact that it was back in Amity and felt more like the original got my vote.

Not to mention all the homages it gives to the first two films.

[MMyers89]

Jaws 3. I enjoy the film for what it is, but Jaws 4 is shit. It had to much supernatural shit in it, like Mrs. Brody could sense the shark, and the the shark was deliberatley hunting her family.

Jaws 3 is much better.

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by MyersFan75
Not to mention all the homages it gives to the first two films. lmao, I love that huge picture of Martin Brody hanging up in the office in the beginning.

[Butchered_victim]

Definitely Jaws 3.

Jaws: The Revenge was just so awful. I didn't like anything about it, just cheesy, and very unecessary.

[Johnathon]

Jaws 3 for sure. What was up with Jaws: The Revenge's alternate ending where they actually blew up the shark, and they used a toy shark and toy boat for the effects, and they used cut scenes from Jaws. Come on Mario Van Peebles and Michael Cane. Cane is an Oscar winner and Van Peebles played an excellent Malcolm X in Ali. Thank god they didn't have shitty careers after that garbage.

[H-field Hero]

There's also a version where Van Peebles character gets eaten by the shark, yet is perfectly fine at the end of the film.

[Remicis]

The song Toss-Up was an interesting one, as I'm not sure what either had to do with their respective films. LOL Granted, I'm not too familiar with the lyrics of either one, but both seemed out-of-place in their own special way. Nevertheless, I'll choose And Fools Shine On simply because I like that song better than Creed's. Very repetitive tune to it, but good for just chillin' to something. It gets more points than the alternative, which holds no appeal for me whatsoever.

As for the newest Toss-Up...never been much for shark movies. Haven't seen either one. LOL

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by Remicis
As for the newest Toss-Up...never been much for shark movies. Haven't seen either one. LOL Consider yourself fortunate.

[halo thirty one]

yeah, i like the idea of changing up the toss-up, but jaws 3 vs. jaws 4? that choice took me by surprise. i have only seen jaws 3, so..........................i vote for jaws 3!

[MyersFan927]

Originally posted by halo thirty one
yeah, i like the idea of changing up the toss-up, but jaws 3 vs. jaws 4? that choice took me by surprise. i have only seen jaws 3, so..........................i vote for jaws 3!

Trust me, you don't want to see Jaws 4. It's even embarrassing for the viewer. Jaws 3 on the other hand is decently satisfying, with a nice change-of-pace plot and other cool aspects. Doesn't compare to the original, but it's still a fun flick.

[myersRUNNER2]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
A short break from halloween topics..

Toss Up!: Which is the "least bad" shark flick?

Jaws: 3D or Jaws: the revenge
I think Jaws:Revenge is a least bad horror flick. Im not really into 3-d movies so thats why i chose what i chose!

[MyersFan75]

I would pick the Revenge. It had a much closer feel to the original - Jaws 3 felt like a TV movie. The actors didn't capture the feel like the Revenge actors did. We had Lance Guest and Michael Caine. Besides, Loraine Gary wasn't all that bad. We had a return for Polly, a cameo with Mrs. Kintner, a failed cameo for Mayor Vaughn, the Orca in the beginning, and an overall style MUCH more in line with the original. This film ultimately failed, but I think it was a much better attempt at greatness than the third Jaws.

Think people, think about it!!

:D

[H-field Hero]

When reading reviews I somtimes find reviewers saying that Halloween 6 makes part 5 look like a masterpiece, while others feel that H5 is far inferior to H6 (while still feeling that H6 still blows). So I ask the board of experts..

Toss Up: Which is the more inferior sequel? Halloween 5: The revenge of Michael Myers or Halloween: The curse of Michael Myers

note: This strictly deals with the released version of Halloween 6. Not the p cut, d cut, r cut, x cut, or center cut.

[Dr. Wynn]

They both had there moments.
but I say H5 is worse. The only appealing thing about was the Man in Black mystery.

H6 Had a lot of unanswered questions.

Was the cult real?
What was Wynn doing?
What happened to Loomis?

You had to watch over and over to fully understand it all. And I love these types of movies.

Others love everything spelt out for you.
But I love a mystery movie that invokes thought.

[MMyers89]

I like H5 just a little more. A simpler Halloween movie, yet with some twists. H6 wasn't bad at all, and I like it, but I'm just an H5 kinda guy.

[MyersFan927]

I slightly prefer H5...or at least I think. No, I'm not trying to confuse anyone: it's just that the H6 T-Cut, at one point my least favorite in the series, has gained substantial power on me. I love it, although I know deep within that it is only a decent movie in the grand scheme of cinema. The atmosphere, the characters, the confusing yet captivatingly different storyline...I don't know, it's just addicting now.

But I'll still choose H5, simply because it followed so closely to H4 (not in quality, but basic content). You know, Michael continuing to stalk Jamie, a mad Loomis running around town, the late 80's feel, Meeker, Rachel, blah blah blah. While it lacks the strong Halloween atmosphere of H3, H4, and H6, it is a genuinely fair sequel that deserves more than the harsh criticisms so abundantly exaggerated on this board. So my choice is H5.

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

I guess I'd have to go with H6...even if it was completely bungled in its theatrical version. And was it ever bungled! It's still a few notches up on H5, though...in terms of atmosphere, creepiness, etc. The major downfalls of H6 all tend to spring from the post-production cuts and the reshoots. Easily, the H6 P-Cut topples everything that stands in its way...but even the T-Cut of H6 beats out H5, I'd say.

[BONES]

I liked them both but would have to say H6 was beter.

[H-field Hero]

Lets spice things up with a little 3 way.

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite Kurt Russel character in a Carpenter movie?

Jack Burton (Big trouble in little china)
Snake Plisken (Escape from New York)
R.J. MacReady (The thing)

[Laow-Z]

RJ .. Good character, good movie

[Dr. Wynn]

I call him Snake.

[halo thirty one]

I'm going with McReady also, mostly because I like the movie the most of the 3.

[MyersFan927]

Snake fuckin' Plissken puts 'em all to shame :yar:

[MyersFan75]

Snake for me.

:)

[konokiita]

Max, but Sunday was so cute! I feel bad for the dogs that got killed. :(

Toss Up!: Who's your favorite Corruthers pet? Sunday or Max.

[H-field Hero]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Every so often I'll list two halloween related topics that are reletively similar. You'll be asked to choose one and then explain why you chose it.I'm not doing that to be a prick, but if this just turns into a 'pick one' thread, then it has failed it's purpose.

[MyersFan927]

Aack. My apologizes. I usually provide an explanation.

Snake Plissken is the most exhilerating JC character of all time. A renegade who plays by his own rules and gets the job done with an adventurous edge. I like how he does what he pleases and doesn't give a shit about anything else. Snake's tough guy voice and attitude, tattooed chest, eyepatch, and snappy one-liners equal the ultimate badass.

[H-field Hero]

Back by popular demand! (Okay, only one person asked about it).

Toss Up!: Which Halloween lush would you rather sit at a bar with? Dan Challis or John Strode.

[MischievousSpirit]

Dan Challis. John Strode is a total asshole.

[Slab]

Dan Challis for sure, by the end of the night he'd have all the women at the table, AND be picking up the tab. :D

[EvilOnTwoLegs]

Back by popular demand! (Okay, only one person asked about it).

Toss Up!: Which Halloween lush would you rather sit at a bar with? Dan Challis or John Strode.
WHOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!! My demand is popular! :D

Challis, hands-down. Sure, he had a bit of a sleazy vibe...but he wasn't a total cockhole, like Strode. Now, if you'd asked which Halloween lush I'd rather kick off a barstool.... haha

[halo thirty one]

Dan Challis for sure, by the end of the night he'd have all the women at the table, AND be picking up the tab. :D
This is exactly what I was thinking. If want to go boozing and not talk to the ladies, then John Strode is the man. Plus it's always good to have a doctor around, just in case. Challis wins in a landslide.

[gerry d]

I'd say Dan Challis.And once we were both drunk we would start singing the Sliver Shamrock tune.

cheers

[WhiteZombie]

Dan Challis for sure, by the end of the night he'd have all the women at the table, AND be picking up the tab. :D

Hahaha thats what I was going to say. The man could pimp.

[mmyers78]

definitley dan challis, when your sitting at the bar with him all the ladies will be all over you

[MyersFan927]

Challis! Ladies will come pouring in. He's also more interesting than John Strode. Challis would drink me under the table though.

[TommyDoyle2]

Dan is straight pimpin...but I choose John Strode.

Come on, the guy needs a friend. Someone to talk to, someone to open up to about his little girl and her 'little bastard'. He wasn't a bad man...just repressed. He needs a drinking buddy.

(Having image of me and John sitting at bar, looking over the room to see all you guys and Chalice partying with the ladies :bigeyes: can I join you once John leaves?)