View Full Version : Did this film very nearly put anyone off the "Halloween" films altogether?

Benny JR
10-09-2009, 04:44 PM
Okay, so I watched this in full for the first time last night. I did go to see it in the Cinema when it was first released, but I wasn't well during the showing and had to leave the showing of it loads of times. This reulted in me missing some parts of it, but last night, I was watching it in full for the first time since I bought the DVD last year.

The DVD I bought of it is called "Halloween" Uncut - The Director's Cut. Anyway, it had loads of scenes that I definitely don't remember seeing and I very nearly turned the film off altogether when a scene came on that depicted a young girl who was a patient/inmate in the psychiatric ward where Michael was being kept.

The scene showed this young girl being raped by two of the so-called 'guards' in the sanitarium. It was horrific and disgusting to watch. I was so incomfortable watching it. It was awful. It didn't even make the film any better, if anything, it made it worse. All in all, this was a completely useless and unnecessary scene added to the film.

I don't know why exactly Rob Zombie felt he needed to touch the "Halloween" films. They were fine before he came along and decided to remake them, starting with this one. Filling it with grotesque and bloody death scenes, a constant flow of bad language, graphic female nudity and extreme violence. Torture porn, if you will.

I felt sick after the above-mentioned scene and I cannot stress enough how terrible it was. Whereas John Carpenter and Debra Hill made a tasteful, genuinely thrilling and entertaining film, Rob Zombie replaced all of these good elements and factors with almost toal negativity. He turned "Halloween" into a smut-filled heap of garbage with an almost non-existant entertainment value to it.

I had to laugh on one of the documentaries on the DVD when he says he is making 'total art', yeah right! He seemingly doesn't know the meaning of the word. What is his obsession with hard-core sex and violence?

Benny JR
10-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Y'know, now that I think of it, I actually PREFER "Halloween: Resurrection" to this film!

10-09-2009, 04:54 PM
No, I liked it.

Slasher Fan
10-09-2009, 04:54 PM
No, I was too much of a loyal Halloween fan to let a remake, or the rape scene put me off them.

I didn't care for Zombie's movies though.

Masked Madman
10-09-2009, 05:01 PM
Rape scene wasn't that bad, there are worse examples of rape in other movies.

Michael Voorhees
10-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Nope, this movie didn't put me off any of the other films, and the rape scene wasn't all that bad, but the prison guard escape scene was better.

10-09-2009, 05:22 PM
The movie was just shit. Halloween movies have been shit for years and years. Doesn't put me off the good ones though...How would it anyway?

Danny Strode
10-09-2009, 05:34 PM
Well, firstly, I don't know how the fuck to answer. The thread title says one thing, and the poll question says another.

But to answer:

It didn't turn me away, it actually got me started. Yeah, go ahead. Make the jokes. :p

As far the rape scene goes, I'm most certainly turned off by it. Though the escape scene with the guards is bad in its own right, the rape scene was by far worse. Not from a visual standpoint, as I'm opposed to rape as anyone else, but the fact that the act and what followed made Michael out to be a hero by killing the guards and saving the girl.

Funny. He didn't kill the girl here, but in RZH2, he killed the girl with the rednecks when she was trying to help him.

10-09-2009, 05:36 PM
I thought we didn't see what happens to the girl?

Danny Strode
10-09-2009, 05:39 PM
I thought we didn't see what happens to the girl?

No, you don't. It's left up for debate, but it really appears to me that he let her live.

Benny JR
10-09-2009, 06:14 PM
See, I was put off the rape scene quite a bit because I'm a rape victime myself, so that's why I asked if it put anyone off the film(s)? I haven't seen all of the next Movie which came out today, but I hope there is nothing as bad in this one. I saw the last half hour of it today and it didn't seem that bad, but who knows. If this film had the rape scene in it, then who knows what is to come next in a "Halloween" Movie? If this is the way they are going to be, then I think I will stick with the originals.

Michael Voorhees
10-09-2009, 06:16 PM
I don't think adding in the rape scene was all that bad, that kind of stuff happens in real life, I've read stories of it, and I'm sorry to hear about you being a rape victim.

Also, there are no rape scenes in RZH2.

10-09-2009, 06:17 PM
I liked this one. The second one came closer to putting me off of the first one than anything. The only thing a bad sequel to the new series can do is put me off of the new series, and not the old one.

10-09-2009, 07:46 PM
Pretty sure this has been discussed to death in numerous other topics. All this does is bring up the same 'ol same 'ol in regards to RZH.

10-09-2009, 07:57 PM
I didn't think the rape scene was necessary at all. The alternative escape scene was much, much better. It just felt out of place... well, I guess not so much since Rob Zombie was at the helm, haha.

10-09-2009, 10:27 PM
I liked it. Just not Michael's clichéd backstory and the way he looked like a yeti at times, it really made him unintimidating and cringeworthy. If they gave him a decent backstory and actually handled that storyline properly and cut the metalhead crap (no offence intended, I'm just venting) then I'd have been impressed with it.

Although I'm not excited at the prospect of any future Halloween instalments, I'd still watch them regardless, so I think I'm just disappointed in how Zombie's view of the remade series turned out. It could've been awesome if he'd just left his personal likes aside and actually focused on the movie(s) and the stories that it/they were telling rather than making his own personalised fanfics and projecting them onto the big screen.

Michael Voorhees
10-09-2009, 10:36 PM
The point of making a movie is to project your vision onscreen. Me liking Zombie's films aside, I would much rather any filmmaker put their own spin on things and not copy what's come before. If you're going to redo exactly what was done in the past, or even copy it for the most part, you mine as well not do it.

Just my $0.02.

10-10-2009, 12:02 AM
You didn't like the movie, and that deserves its own thread?

Don't think so.