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MichaelMyers
10-19-2004, 07:18 PM
What does everybody think about these movies? Do you like them or hate them?

Superman
10-19-2004, 07:24 PM
I liked the first one very much.....until the Creeper showed up and revealed himself. I was really enjoying it until it became obvious how stupid this was gonna be, For that matter I will not see the second one. I mean how good can a movie be that takes place almost entirly in a bus in a field? C'mon..they could've done much much better then these films.

Chomp_on_this
10-19-2004, 07:27 PM
I really like how the first one stayed away from the killer stalking dumbass teenagers thing. I meant the two were teens, but they weren't your typical horror movie teens. They're performance was almost kind of nostalgic of older films. It really wasnt that bad, until the Creeper turned into a teradactyl.

I havent seen the second one, and I dont plan on it.

MichaelMyers
10-19-2004, 07:29 PM
I just bought the 2nd one and watched it for the first time yesterday. It wasn't all that bad.

boogeyman87
10-19-2004, 07:30 PM
I liked the first. The second wasnt too good. I wouldnt mind a third to see what they have in mind. But i probably wouldnt see it.

MichaelMyers
10-19-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by boogeyman87
I liked the first. The second wasnt too good. I wouldnt mind a third to see what they have in mind. But i probably wouldnt see it.
They would have to do the 3rd where the 2nd left off at the end. 23 years later.

Superman
10-19-2004, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Chomp_on_this
It really wasnt that bad, until the Creeper turned into a teradactyl.

I havent seen the second one, and I dont plan on it. Wow! :eek: We actually agree on something. lol :)

HannibalBEATNGU
10-19-2004, 07:37 PM
I loved them about equally. The first was a great straight horror film. It had characters that I care about, a great score, it was very atmospheric, it had character driven humor that builded the suspense instead of interupting it, the killer is a great combination of a human serial killer and a supernatural creature, and it has the best ending I've ever seen. I loved the way they spat right in the face of the typical "good guys gotta win, bad guys gotta lose" cliche that most films unfortunately feel obligated to follow in their finales. I find it quite ironic that almost everyone that hates it resorts to the old "it started off good but it sucked when the killer turned out to be a stupid winged creature!!!" excuse, even though that was right on the trailer and the theatrical poser, and vhs/dvd cover art, etc... It's like saying, "Aliens sucked because there were aliens in it!" "Terminator sucks because of there are cyborgs in it!" "X-Men sucks because there are mutants in it!!!"...
The sequel wasn't really scary, but it was one of the most purely entertaining, well paced, and re-watchable movies I've ever seen. I loved the blend of action and horror. It had some of the best music, cinematography, and effects work I've seen in the genre. The opening sequence was absolutely brilliant. It really got me caring about the Creeper's opponent.
I'm hoping they'll do a prequel eventually if they turn it into a long running franchise, I'd really like to see him in an ancient atmosphere. It looks like the 3rd film will still be set in the present, or 23 years in the future(the future of these films looks basically the same as our present based on JC2's ending). Gina Philips from the first film is planned to return, so it'll basically be the original idea for JC2, minus the school bus.

ten31
10-19-2004, 07:44 PM
I agree with both Superman and Chomp about it went down hill when the Creeper revealed himself.

After seeing the first one. I wrote a treatment that was a prequel involving Kenny and Darla(The high school sweethearts). The idea that I tinkered with was having the creeper in a human form for 99% of the flick.

MichaelMyers
10-19-2004, 08:03 PM
The wings did sort of push it a little.

HannibalBEATNGU
10-19-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by MichaelMyers
The wings did sort of push it a little.

I loved the wings, especially in the sequel. It enhanced The Creeper's ability to attack out of nowhere at any time, at anytime from anywhere.
I love the idea that you can be standing there talking to someone, turn away for a few seconds, look back and they're gone; or be chasing someone and at any given time the wings come out and your loved one is snatched away right in front of you. Salva did a great job with that out of focus shot of the coach being snatched into the air behind the characters backs, and of showing Taggart's sense of helplessness when The Creeper took his son from him.
The look of the wings was perfect too, there were quite a few shots that I couldn't distinguish between the digital wings and the prosthetic ones until watching the making featurette on the dvd.

Superman
10-19-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by HannibalBEATNGU
I loved the wings, especially in the sequel. It enhanced The Creeper's ability to attack out of nowhere at any time, at anytime from anywhere.
Ha ha Michael, Jason and Freddy do it all the time.....it's called teleporting. lol

HannibalBEATNGU
10-19-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Superman
Ha ha Michael, Jason and Freddy do it all the time.....it's called teleporting. lol

What they do doesn't even come close to the situations I described above.
They've never used their abilities to snatch people.
ha ha;)

Miss Informed
10-19-2004, 10:28 PM
I thought part 1 was pretty ok. Nothing special but worth a watch. Part 2 was the same way. It was not real great to be honest.

theoutfieldguy
10-19-2004, 10:32 PM
2 was entertaining.The first sucked after he sucked that tongue and started whistling like a shithead.

gerry d
10-20-2004, 12:25 AM
Enjoyed the first 1 right up to the bit where it's revealed that this person in the long black coat and wears the hat is reallly a winged deamon/creature.From there on in i lost intrest in the rest of the movie.Because of that i didn't bother with the second movie.

cheers

Creepingmouth
10-21-2004, 02:45 PM
I liked only the first one.it was an ertertaining b-movie to me

Name-less
10-22-2004, 11:01 AM
I decided to give this movie a chance, I saw the first part, it was alright. Then my friend and I rented the 2nd part. For a while I was wondering if that was "I know what you did last summer" I was watching... then I fell asleep.

Beau
10-22-2004, 12:22 PM
I didn't like Jeepers Creepers but i liked the second one.
The first one just bored me to death but the second i thougght was more action packed.

TheThorn666
11-12-2004, 08:36 PM
i liked this move cause it was creepy seeing these guy scare and that a main character died!

Kara Strode
11-12-2004, 08:37 PM
someone pass me my secret decoder ring!!!!!

Franchise
11-12-2004, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by TheThorn666
i liked this move cause it was creepy seeing these guy scare and that a main character died!

You seriously need to think about what you're typing before my eyes hurt so bad that I have to get rid of you.

boogeyman87
11-12-2004, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by TheThorn666
i liked this move cause it was creepy seeing these guy scare and that a main character died!


I liked this movie becuase it was creepy seeing that scary guy. I also liked how one of the main characters died.


I assume this is what you were trying to say. Should i be the boards translater or something?:)

Kara Strode
11-12-2004, 08:44 PM
well, thanks...but I was being sarcastic ;)

boogeyman87
11-12-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Kara Strode
well, thanks...but I was being sarcastic ;)

Oh i know, but it was bothering me. I needed to know what he said.:p

Kara Strode
11-12-2004, 08:46 PM
oh I know..my decoder ring's broke..

Mr.Garrett81
11-13-2004, 01:58 PM
Okay I guess Ill follow into the cliche. The first movie was kick ass for the first 35min or so, but the gayass song was just a little too much for me and the old black lady was really annoying. The creature lost its mystique to me when it revelaed itself as aflying creature. I still havent seen the second one yet, but my buddy tells me that it is much better than the first one.

Ravenheart
11-13-2004, 02:13 PM
I own and like both of the Jeepers Creepers movies.I like the first one better but the second one isn't all that bad.The first time I saw the original I was a little upset when they revealed what the Creeper was because I was expecting it to be a slasher flick.The more I watch the movie,the more I like the fact that it isn't a slasher flick and I really like the whole look of the Creeper.If they ever do make a third one,I wouldn't mind seeing it set in the past.I could be wrong but it looks like his coat is like one of those old Confederate coats.

HannibalBEATNGU
11-13-2004, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Ravenheart
I could be wrong but it looks like his coat is like one of those old Confederate coats.

Salva says on the commentary that the coat is meant to be from Colonial times.

Mark Warner
11-13-2004, 06:03 PM
I love these movies. I watched them in the theater and enjoyed every minute (except the male nudity in JC 2)

Cruel Intentions
11-13-2004, 06:37 PM
I've only seen a couple minutes of the first.

Hall9ween
11-14-2004, 02:23 AM
Both films are OK, and I enjoyed watching both of these in the cinema. I don't know why it bothered people so much that the Creeper was a winged demonic creature. I sort of guessed during the first one that he wasn't entirely human, but it also made the film different.

The 2nd one was a bit more action and CGI orientated, and when I first watched it, it didn't seem to have the same feel as the first film at all. The main thing the 2nd film was missing was the Creepers big suped up truck.

posioned_flower
11-15-2004, 07:23 PM
i dont care if someone has already said this....well i'm sorry if someone has said this already but u know what i mean...

I have both films...I saw the 2nd one before i saw the 1st though...i thought the 2nd one was good and only because of the creepers eyes (flipping hate eyes glaring)....anyways i bought that on dvd and then saw that the 1st was gonna be on tv and thought ooo gonna watch at that....I think that the 1st is alot better than that the 2nd...I found it much creepier that the creeper was pretending to act like a person for example; drives a truck, whistles and walks etc

I dont tend to like films like this as i like films with a bit more meaning and depth....i think both films were good considering what they were

Homer
11-25-2004, 07:33 PM
What is so wrong with the Creeper being a monster rather than a serial killer?

I like both Jeepers Creepers 1 and 2. And if you have a problem with that, well, up yours! That's right! Up yours pig!

Blackesteyes
11-26-2004, 03:51 AM
I thought they both sucked ass, and so does Francis Ford bloody Coppolla, overrated fool.

Nightmare13
11-28-2004, 07:49 AM
I like Jeepers Creepers. I have both movies on DVDS, but Jeepers Creepers 2 was just boring, I would like to see Jeepers Creepers 3, be great if it was a prequal :)

Homer
11-28-2004, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Nightmare13
I like Jeepers Creepers. I have both movies on DVDS, but Jeepers Creepers 2 was just boring, I would like to see Jeepers Creepers 3, be great if it was a prequal :)

They were thinking about doing a prequel.
And the setting was going to have to do with cowboys.*

*Hopefully they won't screw it up.

HannibalBEATNGU
11-29-2004, 04:18 PM
That idea was scrapped. They're planning on having Gina Philips(Trish from the first one)return for a sequel. Salva most likely won't be involved, since he hated the idea of bringing her back as a heroine figure in JC2(which was the original intent before he cut her out of the script and put Taggart in), and because he's busy doing other films.

Annie
11-29-2004, 05:22 PM
What was with that big woman in the first one singing that stupid "Jeepers Creeper" song?

I thought it was hilarious when the kids were in the car, and the song comes on the radio. They start arguing over it; meanwhile, the bad winged dude is attacking someone in the car behind them. Totally hilarious.



:rolleyes:

HannibalBEATNGU
11-29-2004, 05:29 PM
She was telling them to get away when they heard it because she had a vision about something terrible happening to one of them while it was playing. The song was a foreshadowing of the ending, that's what was with it.:rolleyes:

Annie
11-29-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by HannibalBEATNGU
She was telling them to get away when they heard it because she had a vision about something terrible happening to one of them while it was playing. The song was a foreshadowing of the ending, that's what was with it.:rolleyes:

Thanks
:rolleyes:

Silverpsycho
12-02-2004, 04:48 PM
I did not care too much for these films. Let's just say my mom watches the first one on Tv all the time and she is no horror fan...that kills it right there...LOL. :D

The Creeper is actually kind of a cool character but I don't like the "jeepers creepers" song being played as the foreshadowing. It makes the film too cheesy and it reminds me of when Hayley Mills sang the song when she was young, which brings me to hysterics immediately.

But to each his own. If you like it, you like it...if you don't you don't. I like pure crap myself but these just didn't fly with me. Maybe I'll give 'em another try in the future since I always seem to change my mind.

Miss Informed
12-02-2004, 11:53 PM
I really enjoyed part 1. However, part 2 was pretty bad. It's worth a watch ONCE but that is it.

theoutfieldguy
12-03-2004, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Miss Informed
I really enjoyed part 1. However, part 2 was pretty bad. It's worth a watch ONCE but that is it.

I agree to the exact opposite.

francesco
12-04-2004, 07:06 AM
I liked people in it!!!:-),

theoutfieldguy
12-05-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Homer
What is so wrong with the Creeper being a monster rather than a serial killer?

A monster that whistles just to show the audience that he now has a tongue is what put me off.Any monster that whistles immediately loses all credibility.I mean,could you take The Shape seriously if he was whistling Mr.Sandman while walking to HMH?

HannibalBEATNGU
12-05-2004, 05:39 PM
The whistling was done to show that he has somewhat of a human personality, it advanced him past being nothing more than a brute beast.
It wasn't done just to show he had a tongue.

Bucky-lives
12-09-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by HannibalBEATNGU
I loved the wings, especially in the sequel. It enhanced The Creeper's ability to attack out of nowhere at any time, at anytime from anywhere.
I love the idea that you can be standing there talking to someone, turn away for a few seconds, look back and they're gone; or be chasing someone and at any given time the wings come out and your loved one is snatched away right in front of you. Salva did a great job with that out of focus shot of the coach being snatched into the air behind the characters backs, and of showing Taggart's sense of helplessness when The Creeper took his son from him.
The look of the wings was perfect too, there were quite a few shots that I couldn't distinguish between the digital wings and the prosthetic ones until watching the making featurette on the dvd. i agree with you all the way. i loved the movie and the creeper was a fresh break from ghostface type killers. the wings to me just made it alot creepier.

NSS
06-11-2005, 11:45 AM
this movie is scared the hell out of me when i see at first time. jeepers creepers part 1 is tight.

Superman
06-11-2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by NSS
this movie is scared the hell out of me when i see at first time. jeepers creepers part 1 is tight. You are kidding right?

NSS
06-11-2005, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Superman
You are kidding right?

nah im not kidding..

Hall9ween
06-11-2005, 01:22 PM
Just 'cause movies are modern doesn't make them not scary. I remember seeing the first Jeepers Creepers in the cinema and being on the edge of my seat. I wouldn't say "scared", but definately on edge waiting to see what happened next. The sequel however didn't do this, it was too action orientated. I thought the first Jeepers Creepers wasn't too bad.

HannibalBEATNGU
06-11-2005, 01:48 PM
I'm glad they made the sequel more action-oriented. I agree that the first is a better horror film, but the sequel is more entertaining and rewatchable, and with the extra budget blew away its predecessor in music, cinematography, and special effects.

HannibalBEATNGU
06-11-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Superman
You are kidding right?

That's kind of how I feel about movies alot of other people find scary.;)

6Michael6Myers6
06-11-2005, 01:59 PM
i have only seen parts of JC2 and I thought it was rather stupid...and it turned me off and so i haven't seen the first one yet but i plan to sometime...

NSS
06-11-2005, 02:06 PM
is there michael vs creeper thread in here ??

6Michael6Myers6
06-11-2005, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by NSS
is there michael vs creeper thread in here ??

i don't believe so
that would be an interesting thread

Hall9ween
06-12-2005, 02:53 AM
I think it would be a stupid thread. What is it with trying to pitch every horror icon against each other? They did Freddy Vs Jason and Alien Vs Predator, but anymore would be really, really stupid.

666myers666
06-16-2005, 08:34 AM
My friend said something to me ones and i will always remember it because it was the stupidest thing I'v ever heard.
He said "wouldn't it be cool if they made a Freddy vs Jason vs Alien vs Predator?"
I couldnt believe what i was hearing.

666myers666
06-16-2005, 08:36 AM
Also about Jeepers Creepers, I think I was to built up to it because everyone said it was shit scary but I watched it and i wasnt really into it.

Kara Strode
06-16-2005, 08:36 AM
Please don't start a VS thread...it'll more than likely be closed.

Nightmare
08-10-2005, 04:20 PM
Original, was the best.

Nightmareman88
08-20-2005, 06:05 PM
I thought Jeepers Creepers was a great movie really creeped me out and is defently one of the better horror movies out there Jonathan Breck was really awsome as the Creeper

writer93
08-20-2005, 06:08 PM
i liked the original the most, the second was good though.

JOeKER
08-20-2005, 06:08 PM
Jeepers Creepers creeped out up until the point when they actually showed the Creeper, wings and all. I was disappointed. He was creepier as just a guy in a long jacket and hat.

HannibalBEATNGU
08-20-2005, 06:56 PM
Well, you shouldn't have bothered watching movie then. It's revealed all over the trailers and right on the theatrical poster/cover art that he's not human.

JOeKER
08-20-2005, 07:00 PM
I didn't say I thought he was human. He was just looked creepier with the hat and long jacket on. I stilll liked the movie, he just isn't as creepy to me with wings and when you can clearly see his face.

HannibalBEATNGU
08-20-2005, 07:04 PM
Well, of course he wasn't going to keep his hat and coat on the entire movie.

JOeKER
08-20-2005, 07:06 PM
I guess not. All in all, I thought it was still a good movie. The version of Jeepers Creepers playing on the radio is pretty eerie.

Nightmareman88
08-21-2005, 12:14 AM
Well, that was the intention of the Director/Screenwriter Victor Salva Its a monster movie not one of thos psychological thrillers of any kind, the Director wanted to do something diffrent and I thought it was a great twist and the Creeper turned out really cool

matthew28
10-01-2005, 01:54 AM
i liked them.

WhiteZombie
12-20-2005, 06:01 PM
i know im ressurecting a thread but thats ok, i just decided to look for jeepers creepers now...

i love these movies. the part up to when the two main characters (sorry i forget the names) leave the that underground morgue thing where the creeper keeps all the bodys. actally makes me very jumpy most movies cant do that to me. just thinking his big ass truck may come at anytime is freaky. the fact that hes a demon thing is original at least they dident try to make another michael myers or somthing they did somthing new and it works. i really hope a sequel or prequal comes out.

Horror Kitten
12-21-2005, 07:05 AM
I really didn't like either of them alot, but I had to go with the 2nd film.
I hated the 1st - It disturbed the hell out of me, and I just really didn't enjoy it. I didn't really like the second either - but it was a hell of alot better than the first.

I would more than likely not see the third in this series.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-21-2005, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Horror Kitten
I hated the 1st - It disturbed the hell out of me

That's like not liking a comedy because it was funny.

Horror Kitten
12-21-2005, 07:18 PM
I didn't like the end. It disturbed me and upset me as opposed to scaring me. I just really felt so bad for the kid, and the sister not ever really knowing what happened to him.

The director got it right as far as mood and a disturbing/pretty original ending - It just deeply upset me, so I didn't like it.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-21-2005, 08:13 PM
I know, but being disturbing and unsettling is among the points of a horror film, alongside being scary.
You were supposed to feel bad for Trish and Darry, that's precisely what he was going for.

Horror Kitten
12-21-2005, 08:24 PM
I know, and I said he did a good job with it.

I am not disturbed easily, and I don't easily feel for horror movie characters (that's a lie, I do feel caring/attached feeling to characters - but you get the point)
It just left a unsettling twisted feeling in my gut, and I really hate that feeling. Hence, I hate the movie that made me feel that way.

Kara Strode
12-21-2005, 08:53 PM
eh, don't feel bad Horror Kitten. I hated the first and the second one. I see where you're coming from.

Phatmaster2k8
12-21-2005, 09:42 PM
I forget, at the end of JC2 was didn't a second creeper show up? Or is that just me being tired and a little tipsy?

I have to say the first started out pretty damn good. But then the second half just ruined it. It was so damn anti-climatic. The second film was shot well but that's all I remember. Not good in my book. I want to see the creeper get his. I mean two flicks and barely a scratch.

Horror Kitten
12-22-2005, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Kara Strode
eh, don't feel bad Horror Kitten. I hated the first and the second one. I see where you're coming from.

Thank you, Rae ;)

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 11:25 AM
that first one , for me anyway, was kinda like a sleeper........a friend brought this movie over and I'm like "oh brother:rolleyes: "
by the timewe saw that creeper dude and that fuckin' super charged milk truck we were like "whoa!!".......I think it kinda died out toward the end but we didn't mind it. The second one was utterly junk............there was no story whatsoever.........it was just a money grab and that sucks.

WhiteZombie
12-22-2005, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
I forget, at the end of JC2 was didn't a second creeper show up? Or is that just me being tired and a little tipsy?

I have to say the first started out pretty damn good. But then the second half just ruined it. It was so damn anti-climatic. The second film was shot well but that's all I remember. Not good in my book. I want to see the creeper get his. I mean two flicks and barely a scratch.

no the 1st and only one was hung on a wall and the guy whos kid was kidnapped at the beggining was sitting there waiting for it to come back to live with a shotgun because it had been 23 years since it was alive. so to answer your qustion no there was no second.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
I forget, at the end of JC2 was didn't a second creeper show up? Or is that just me being tired and a little tipsy?

I have to say the first started out pretty damn good. But then the second half just ruined it. It was so damn anti-climatic. The second film was shot well but that's all I remember. Not good in my book. I want to see the creeper get his. I mean two flicks and barely a scratch.

It wasn't anti-climactic, since as I've said too many times to count, it was all over the promtion that the villain was in fact not human, hence anyone that was going to dislike the film for that reason shouldn't have bothered watching it.

As for barely a scracth...he was run over repeatedly and lost an arm and a leg, and had his wings broken...in JC2 he's speared through the heart and the brain repeatedly, impaled through the eye out the other end with a javeline and needs to tear off his head to replace it, blasted in the chest with a flare gun, slammed out of the sky in mid-flight(while going full force)through posts as a spear nails him, smashed head-first through a windshield(again while flying full force)causing him to lose an arm, a leg, and a wing...

A bit more than scratch.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Chaosboy
that first one , for me anyway, was kinda like a sleeper........a friend brought this movie over and I'm like "oh brother:rolleyes: "
by the timewe saw that creeper dude and that fuckin' super charged milk truck we were like "whoa!!".......I think it kinda died out toward the end but we didn't mind it. The second one was utterly junk............there was no story whatsoever.........it was just a money grab and that sucks.

A man has his child abducted in front of him and taken off to be killed in the opening sequence, setting up a revenge story...The Creeper cripples a bus in the middle of a desolate highway for a game of cat and mouse with its occupants, who have personal conflicts of their own taking place (as someone with a huge vendetta against him is coming for him without his knowledge); that's a story, and a multi-layered one at that.

Frazetta
12-22-2005, 07:42 PM
The 1st was ok until he turned into fucking Batman's evil cousin. The second has no redeemable quality whatsoever.

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by HannibalBEATNGU
A man has his child abducted in front of him and taken off to be killed in the opening sequence, setting up a revenge story...The Creeper cripples a bus in the middle of a desolate highway for a game of cat and mouse with its occupants, who have personal conflicts of their own taking place (as someone with a huge vendetta against him is coming for him without his knowledge); that's a story, and a multi-layered one at that.

excuse me, you're right it did have a story......a story that sucked.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 08:30 PM
Thank you for that well thought out, in depth analysis.:)

Frazetta
12-22-2005, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Chaosboy
excuse me, you're right it did have a story......a story that sucked. But not asmuch as KISS

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 08:33 PM
what was that shot for??

Frazetta
12-22-2005, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by Chaosboy
what was that shot for?? It wasn't a shot just a flick

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by HannibalBEATNGU
Thank you for that well thought out, in depth analysis.:) a movie without depth deserves no analysis.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 08:48 PM
Except it has depth, which I clearly explained; to which you replied with a counter with no depth.

Kara Strode
12-22-2005, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Chaosboy
a movie without depth deserves no analysis.

for once, we agree ;)

It might have had depth to you, Hannibal, but for some of us it was a complete and utter waste of money and time.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 09:03 PM
No maybe about it, I clearly explained WHY it has depth, as opposed to simply saying "It ruled!"

Obviously I'm well aware that every film is going to have opposing views, that's not really the point.

All Chaos can come up with is "It sucks!" If that's how you feel, that's fine, but you should be able to back it up.

Kara Strode
12-22-2005, 09:13 PM
It's easier to back up a movie you like with reasons. If it's a movie you didn't like, you just didn't like it.

I didn't like the story, I didn't like the wing that sprouted. I just didn't like the movie.

Frazetta
12-22-2005, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Kara Strode
It's easier to back up a movie you like with reasons. If it's a movie you didn't like, you just didn't like it.

I didn't like the story, I didn't like the wing that sprouted. I just didn't like the movie. The only thing I want to know from the both of you is the letter grade....none of this pointless talk about the entire movie

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by HannibalBEATNGU
No maybe about it, I clearly explained WHY it has depth, as opposed to simply saying "It ruled!"

All Chaos can come up with is "It sucks!" If that's how you feel, that's fine, but you should be able to back it up.

ok hotshot, I didn't think it necessary to actually point out why this movie deserves the mudslinging, but fine.
I think on it like this; take away everything that made the 1st movie cool and you have JC2. Lets see, a buncha teenagers stuck in the middle of nowhere killed off one by one due to to the fact that the writers forgot to give the characters brains. All the surprise and suspense that gave the 1st one its "legs" have been amputated in this direct to video beauty disguised as a flick worthy of the silver screen. The movie played out like you've already seen it before because it was so predictable and I checked it out and this movie IS a money grab. It was released not long after "freddy vs Jason" and just rode on the coatails of horror fans desire for more. All the factors that made the original a hit..........that wicked truck, the absolute eeriness of the house with the bodies sewn to the walls and even the killing music used in the 1st movie!!! The creeper isn't even creepy man! He flys around picking off a buncha 2 dimentional characters you dont' even realize are dead until the movie is over and yer thinkin' "what happend to that guy??" Whats up with Farmer Brown stuff??.....that looked like it was added in just because they had part of another story lying around...........need I go on.........yeesh!!
If you like the movie good for you.....I'm happy for you....I really am!!!..........but dont' defend something you cant' win....admit it, it was a half assed sequel. Most Halloween fans admit H-5 was a piece of trash, but love it all the same. I wasn't knocking you!
Easy fella.....easy..........

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Frazetta
The only thing I want to know from the both of you is the letter grade....none of this pointless talk about the entire movie Hey whats' up with you??, the whole point is to discuss the movie and I did and if I have to give you a letter grade well.........oh I don't know .....howabout.......F!!!!

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Chaosboy
ok hotshot, I didn't think it necessary to actually point out why this movie deserves the mudslinging, but fine.
I think on it like this; take away everything that made the 1st movie cool and you have JC2. Lets see, a buncha teenagers stuck in the middle of nowhere killed off one by one due to to the fact that the writers forgot to give the characters brains.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF BRAINLESS TEENAGERS IN REAL LIFE TOO, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT'S MUCH OF A STRETCH, AND THEY AREN'T ANY STUPIDER THAN CHARACTERS IN ANY OTHER HORROR MOVIE.

All the surprise and suspense that gave the 1st one its "legs" have been amputated in this direct to video beauty disguised as a flick worthy of the silver screen. The movie played out like you've already seen it before because it was so predictable and I checked it out and this movie IS a money grab. It was released not long after "freddy vs Jason" and just rode on the coatails of horror fans desire for more. All the factors that made the original a hit..........that wicked truck, the absolute eeriness of the house with the bodies sewn to the walls and even the killing music used in the 1st movie!!! The creeper isn't even creepy man! He flys around picking off a buncha 2 dimentional characters you dont' even realize are dead until the movie is over and yer thinkin' "what happend to that guy??" Whats up with Farmer Brown stuff??.....that looked like it was added in just because they had part of another story lying around...........need I go on.........yeesh!!

OF COURSE HE DIDN'T USE THE WICKED TRUCK AND THE HUMAN ELEMENTS AREN'T NEARLY AS PRESENT HERE, IF THEY WERE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN A REHASH. THIS WAS MEANT AS MORE OF AN ACTION/HORROR FILM DISPLAYING THE CREEPER'S SUPERNATURAL PROWESS IN A WAY THAT COULDN'T BE IN THE FIRST FILM GIVEN THE RESOURCES THEY HAD. THE 'FARMER BROWN' STUFF WASN'T JUST ADDED BECAUSE ANOTHER STORY WAS LYING AROUND, IT WAS A GREAT REVENGE SUBPLOT THAT WAS SET UP BEAUTIFULLY FROM THE BEGINNING. THE RIDING THE COAT-TAILS OF FREDDY VS. JASON COMMENT IS IRRELEVANT, SINCE THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF QUALITY, NOT BOX OFFICE OR POPULARITY, WHICH ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ISSUES.

If you like the movie good for you.....I'm happy for you....I really am!!!..........but dont' defend something you cant' win....admit it, it was a half assed sequel. Most Halloween fans admit H-5 was a piece of trash, but love it all the same. I wasn't knocking you!
Easy fella.....easy..........

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE, GOOD FOR YOU....I'M HAPPY FOR YOU....I REALLY AM!!!.......BUT DON'T DEFEND SOMETHING YOU CAN'T WIN....ADMITT IT, IT WAS A GREAT SEQUEL. SEE, TWO CAN PLAY THIS ASININE GAME OF PRESENTING OPINION AS THOUGH IT'S FACT; AND I WAS CALM FROM THE START, FELLA...

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 09:57 PM
not bloody likely boy.....oh and by the way, I did win.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 09:58 PM
Yet another powerhouse rebuttle.......oh, and by the way, you lost.;)

Frazetta
12-22-2005, 10:00 PM
Man I never get tired of these little debates Merry Fuc**** Christmas lol

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by HannibalBEATNGU
Yet another powerhouse rebuttle.;)

listen kid you wanted a reason.........I gave you a reason, now go take a valium before you hurt yourself

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 10:06 PM
I'm fine thanks, I don't hurt myself countering shallow, empty "reasons" with valid points....kid.

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 10:11 PM
Obviously you ignored every valid point I made when you asked for a better reason than it sucked ..........which was a perfectly valid reason on its' own

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 10:12 PM
Obviously I already countered them.....and it sucked is a shallow, empty reason and as far from valid as it gets.

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 10:18 PM
You didn't counter shit man...........stay off the pot when you enter into a debate with someone you cant match wits with anyway

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 10:21 PM
Actually, I did counter shit...which is what countering your posts is.

Debate is point - counterpoint(as I did), not point - "it sucked! I'm right cause I say so and you can't match my greatness!" as you did.

This is the way a five year old debates. You're right, I can't actually match the wits of someone that I far exceed. If you want to match wits with someone, you should engage in a debate with small children, since your methods are much more on par with theirs.

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Chaosboy
ok hotshot, I didn't think it necessary to actually point out why this movie deserves the mudslinging, but fine.
I think on it like this; take away everything that made the 1st movie cool and you have JC2. Lets see, a buncha teenagers stuck in the middle of nowhere killed off one by one due to to the fact that the writers forgot to give the characters brains. All the surprise and suspense that gave the 1st one its "legs" have been amputated in this direct to video beauty disguised as a flick worthy of the silver screen. The movie played out like you've already seen it before because it was so predictable and I checked it out and this movie IS a money grab. It was released not long after "freddy vs Jason" and just rode on the coatails of horror fans desire for more. All the factors that made the original a hit..........that wicked truck, the absolute eeriness of the house with the bodies sewn to the walls and even the killing music used in the 1st movie!!! The creeper isn't even creepy man! He flys around picking off a buncha 2 dimentional characters you dont' even realize are dead until the movie is over and yer thinkin' "what happend to that guy??" Whats up with Farmer Brown stuff??.....that looked like it was added in just because they had part of another story lying around...........need I go on.........yeesh!!
If you like the movie good for you.....I'm happy for you....I really am!!!..........but dont' defend something you cant' win....admit it, it was a half assed sequel. Most Halloween fans admit H-5 was a piece of trash, but love it all the same. I wasn't knocking you!
Easy fella.....easy..........

Counter my points then little man

HannibalBEATNGU
12-22-2005, 10:31 PM
As unintentionally amusing as I'm sure the above post is, I now have you on ignore, since you've proven to be the personification of why the term, and feature exist.

Chaosboy
12-22-2005, 10:36 PM
You will make a great politician some day........when backed into a corner........you run...........HAHA!!!.............oh by the way JC2...... sucks!!!

Kara Strode
12-23-2005, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by Frazetta
The only thing I want to know from the both of you is the letter grade....none of this pointless talk about the entire movie

I don't see where it says I have to give it a letter grade. Thank you. It's a discuss the movie thread. I'll say what I want to say about the entire movie.

benluvin
12-23-2005, 07:52 AM
I liked Jeepers Creepers 1 a lot more than 2. The first one had a creepy feel for the most part ( the acting was a little corny but I can live with that). The location was more spread out, and the Creeper seemed more of a badass with his truck. The story was original, and I just liked it.

The 2nd film wasn't terrible, but not as good. I didn't like how the Creeper seemed to have fun with it, smiling at the kids and stuff. I also didn't like how the story didn't really progress. I want there to be another one (preferbly a prequel), and hopefully it can add something to the story.

By the way, I loved the debate.

Chaosboy
12-23-2005, 09:08 AM
So did I!!!

Trickster
12-23-2005, 09:12 AM
I love the first movie but not keen on the sequel...the guy that directed these movies also gave us the 1988 sleeper hit CLOWNHOUSE which is a personal favourite.

Annie
12-23-2005, 09:23 AM
When I fist saw "JC", I hated it. But, now that I've seen it about 10 times (thanks to the SciFi Channel), it has grown on me.

I have not seen the sequel yet.

HannibalBEATNGU
12-23-2005, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by benluvin
The 2nd film wasn't terrible, but not as good. I didn't like how the Creeper seemed to have fun with it, smiling at the kids and stuff. I also didn't like how the story didn't really progress. I want there to be another one (preferbly a prequel), and hopefully it can add something to the story.

By the way, I loved the debate.

He's very predatorial and loves toying with/taunting his victims, he was that way in the first film too. They may have increased that a bit in JC2, but they needed to keep the human aspect of his character there, since he uses much more supernatural prowess in the sequel. I found him just as bad-ass, but in a different way. I loved the shift in style and tone, it's what makes a great sequel imo.
There is a deleted graveyard scene that gives some insight into who he was as a human(which really shouldn't have been cut)showing the corpses of past victims, they most likely won't fully get into it until they do a prequel, it's better to save it for that.

HALLOWEENSHAPE7
11-02-2007, 09:06 PM
I think this movie is the coolest thing-
its the kind of horror movie you really want to see. I remember seeing it in the movie store once (it was on display) and I saw The Creeper staring through that leather and I thought "Probably stupid"
Shit was I wrong. That movie scared the living hell out of me- until the part at the police station.

Numbro Dos-
Okay- wasn't all that bad- the part where the Creeper attaches the belly button to the shooting star thing is really gross. But I like this line from the film-

The creeper is on the wall and the father of the dead boy has the harpoon aimed at it, and is talking to the high school kids.

"How'd you kill it?"
"Stabbed it. My own harpoon gun."
"You- you waiting for somethin'?"
"About three days. Give or take a day or two."

That gives me shivers.

BONES
12-30-2007, 12:44 PM
At first I liked them NO love just thought they wer ok but for some ungodly reason my neise is crazy over thes thing I mean last week she wached them all day and till she whent to sleep and so on all frigin week non stop if I see this thing one mor time I'm gona go crazy:roflmao::bigeyes::crazy::eek::mecry::banana:

Hawkwind
12-31-2007, 09:57 PM
there ok but not good enoff to be in my dvd collection, but they are fun movies

Horror Fan 666
01-01-2008, 12:08 AM
I Think They Are Ok Movies-Couldv'e Been Done better-I Think The Creeper would get More Fans If He Fought A Well Known Horror Icon-In My Opinion I Would Like To See The Creeper Fight Jason Voorhees-I Would Enjoy Seeing The Creeper Grab Him & Fly In The Air With Him & Drop His Ass To The Ground.If A Movie Got Made About these 2 Fighting I Would Want To See A Draw In First Movie Just like Freddy vs Jason-What Does Everyone Else Think.

bogey-chaser
01-11-2008, 07:09 AM
I love both movies. They're among my favorites. Though I can't say I "like" Victor Salva on a personal level or agree with what he did (you all know what I mean), he made some fine movies and I hope he IS making the third one.

The Creeper is one of the most refreshing characters to date because he's so unpredictable. He's intense, but then he'll display a sick twist of humor--he's violent, but then he creates "art" out of his victims. He's just so strange and, the best part, is that we STILL know nothing about him. One thing Salva wanted to establish early on was to NOT reveal fully what this guy is. When you do that, you lose the mystique. He's "scary" because he still unknown.

Love these movies.

BONES
01-11-2008, 01:12 PM
What do you mean???I realy dont know:offtopic::question:

ten31
01-11-2008, 02:50 PM
What do you mean???I realy dont know:offtopic::question:


Salva molested a kid actor from his movie Clown House.

As for Jeepers Creepers. I liked the first one. Especially when you thought the Creeper was a Man. After he turned into a winged creature it lost a little bit for me but it was still entertaining. Part two I didn't like at all. It was a total waste of time. Hopefully with the third Salva makes it a little darker and creepier like the first. And for god sakes I hope his given up on the Western Prequel. If he was going to do a Prequel I would rather see one involving the two Prom dates from the first flick.

captainoneliner
01-11-2008, 06:58 PM
I haven't read through all the posts on this subject, but I remember when I saw Jeepers Creepers, during the first half of the movie, I was sitting there thinking: Holy shit. This is GOOD. This is REALLY GOOD. This might be one of the best scary movies I've seen in a long time. THen they got to the cafe or whatever and it became more of a monster movie and it just kind of.. .ehhh.

The first half was brilliant, though. Overall, its good.. but it could have been GREAT.

BONES
01-11-2008, 07:35 PM
I haven't read through all the posts on this subject, but I remember when I saw Jeepers Creepers, during the first half of the movie, I was sitting there thinking: Holy shit. This is GOOD. This is REALLY GOOD. This might be one of the best scary movies I've seen in a long time. THen they got to the cafe or whatever and it became more of a monster movie and it just kind of.. .ehhh.

The first half was brilliant, though. Overall, its good.. but it could have been GREAT.I have to agree I watch it agin the other day yea after the cafe EHHHH!!!!

qwerty90221
01-13-2008, 08:17 AM
The first one was great but I can't sit through it like I could before. The movie kind of creeps me out. 2 was a great sequel.

Demonswrath
11-12-2008, 09:25 PM
The first Jeepers Creepers film was amazing. I didn't think it was going to be as good as it was from the previews and I had taken my wife to see it one afternoon. It has become one of my favorite horror films ever.

The second film was good in it's own way, but wasn't as good as the first by far.

I really look forward to this third film. I'm sure that a good story has been done for it to be considered to be made. Victor Salva didn't even want to do JC2, but did to end it all though he did decide to have a creepy ending. It's good to see that he has found a story that is worth telling for JC3. If it wasn't good, he wouldn't make a third film. He has gone on the record to say that he has found a story that is worth continuing with a third film that he says he is very excited about.

I just want to know when will we finally hear more news on Jeepers Creepers 3?

Pepperkin
11-13-2008, 03:30 AM
In My Opinion I Would Like To See The Creeper Fight Jason Voorhees-I Would Enjoy Seeing The Creeper Grab Him & Fly In The Air With Him & Drop His Ass To The Ground.That would be interesting but Jason would shrug the fall off and get up in a very bad mood.

The thing that bugged me about the first one was not so much that he was not human but that he had wings. I mean comon wings?

That's what ruined the feel of the movie if you ask me.

InsomniacDown
11-13-2008, 03:56 AM
I like both of them, the first one is the best but the 2nd one had some good moments.

Laurie Strode
11-13-2008, 10:42 PM
Part 2 is definitely the weakest one out of the pair. I like the first one a lot, but part 2 just doesn't hold up.

HaddonfieldSpy
11-14-2008, 06:33 AM
I haven't read through all the posts on this subject, but I remember when I saw Jeepers Creepers, during the first half of the movie, I was sitting there thinking: Holy shit. This is GOOD. This is REALLY GOOD. This might be one of the best scary movies I've seen in a long time. THen they got to the cafe or whatever and it became more of a monster movie and it just kind of.. .ehhh.

The first half was brilliant, though. Overall, its good.. but it could have been GREAT.

Agreed.