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MyersFan28
01-20-2008, 09:07 PM
What different words do you think they would use.To dub in over the bad language? And what tv scenes would be interesting,to replace the sex scenes?

Pasabi
01-20-2008, 09:36 PM
Didn't somone say in the shoutbox once that they did two scenes for a TV verison like Sex in the City or am I dreaming.

MyersFan28
01-20-2008, 09:45 PM
Are you joking around pa7070 or serious?

Pasabi
01-20-2008, 10:12 PM
no why would I be joking around? somone asked that last week in the shoutbox.

MyersFan28
01-20-2008, 10:32 PM
I never check the shout box,thats why I asked.

Khan
01-21-2008, 04:03 AM
It would get a TBS-style hack job if it was aired on major network.

punkrocklove
01-21-2008, 04:06 AM
Guns would be replaced with walky talkys

and bad words would be replaced with "hippy"

OmegaRex
01-21-2008, 07:38 AM
The TV version of Zombie's Halloween would probably be about 10-15 minutes long :)

Khan
01-21-2008, 08:12 AM
One of the specialty channels (HBO, Showtime) would air it uncut.

Myers Insurance
01-21-2008, 08:19 AM
Any network that's not premium would give it an editing similar to TBS' version of Showgirls.

DeanCorso
01-21-2008, 09:20 AM
If Rob Zombie's Halloween was on Cable tv...

I would change channel to find something better.

Todd 78
01-21-2008, 09:59 AM
it would be about 45 minutes

The Frightmaster
01-21-2008, 12:28 PM
Well it depends on what channel it is aired on. Some channels allow more racy stuff to be aired then others. But on most channels a lot of the movie would be cut out. Seeing how every other word is fuck they would have to edit every other word with freak or whatever. And a lot of vulgar language especially in the beginning would have to be edited out. It just seems like it would be a lot of work to get this movie on tv.

MichaelJrdnMyrs
01-21-2008, 01:03 PM
Didn't somone say in the shoutbox once that they did two scenes for a TV verison like Sex in the City or am I dreaming.

I wouldn't be surprised that there were extra scenes shot for tv. The original Halloween had to do that since it was so short. Since they knew going in that a lot of the content of the remake would be censored, making sure the running time of the edited version was long enough for broadcast might've been a concern.

Laurie2007
01-21-2008, 01:37 PM
i would only watch it to laugh at how bad it would be butchered

Danny Strode
01-21-2008, 02:12 PM
i would only watch it to laugh at how bad it would be butchered

So would I. That's why I watch the other Halloween's when they're on sometimes.

If HBO or Cinemax would air it, it would be in the next coming months. I hope so.

Myers Insurance
01-21-2008, 02:23 PM
If AMC airs it, we'd see a lot of deleted scenes that are of no importance and it'd be edited H2-style.

Monte
01-21-2008, 05:26 PM
AMC did not create the TV version of Halloween II. Whichever channel originally aired it in the '80s is probably responsible for that (NBC?). Regardless, there's no way this movie can be shown on basic cable without it being goddamn hilarious.

MyersFan28
01-21-2008, 07:06 PM
Or USA that channel always edits on horror movies. Child's Play 3 anyone?

Danny Strode
01-21-2008, 07:33 PM
Or USA that channel always edits on horror movies. Child's Play 3 anyone?

Oh, God, I remember that!!!

Pasabi
01-21-2008, 09:58 PM
I think it will hit Starz. Didn't Resurection premier on that? They also have H20.

TheShape1981
01-23-2008, 06:39 PM
I would really have to depend on what cable station it was airing on. Basic cable - No; I haven't even seen Devils Rejects of House of 1000 Corpses being broadcast over basic cable. There is just too much that would have to be tinkered with, that it just wouldnt be worth watching.

captainoneliner
01-24-2008, 05:44 PM
What different words do you think they would use.To dub in over the bad language? And what tv scenes would be interesting,to replace the sex scenes?

We'd get GREAT overdubs like we did in H2 when Bud says "She's full of SUGAR".

"Or Amazing Grace, come SHOW ME YOUR face".

Sigh.

KillerMiller
02-04-2008, 03:26 PM
I would think it would probably become a silent film with an eerie music playing instead. For instance when Annie and her bf are fixing to have sex it'll go black and words will come up saying ABSTINENCE SAVES LIVES then a quick shot of her bf being choked... of course all blood will be changed from red to a clearer liquid and people will say its just sweat (ALA Mortal Kombat)

On a serious note, I think it would be hard to watch because every other word would have to be changed or beeped.

The Dark Knight
02-04-2008, 03:53 PM
Guns would be replaced with walky talkys

and bad words would be replaced with "hippy"

:yeah:

it would probably be a hack job, only shown late at night.

Man In Black
02-05-2008, 08:34 AM
"Girl, I will crawl over there and skull kiss the love outta you!"

discvader
02-05-2008, 09:03 AM
If Rob Zombie's Halloween was on Cable tv...

I would change channel to find something better.
:roflmao: hahahahahahaha! :yeah:

mmyers78
02-05-2008, 09:44 AM
I think they would just cut the words out.

bracket
02-05-2008, 12:37 PM
I really do not think they would even air it! but if they did I would watch it just to see what lame ass editing job they did.

"women I will crawl over there and skull fart the lips off of you!!!

MyersFan28
02-05-2008, 03:37 PM
"Allow me to introduce myself I Joe Grizzley ponch,and i'm gonna cut that mask right off your face."

I can't imagine how the bully bathroom scene would be edited.

ILoveChiaPetsXD
01-12-2009, 10:59 AM
I would LOVE to hear how they would censor "Bitch, I will crawl over there and skull fuck the shit out of you!"


"Allow me to introduce myself I Joe Grizzley ponch,and i'm gonna cut that mask right off your face."

I can't imagine how the bully bathroom scene would be edited.

I don't think that they would edit out the word "bitch". I hear that word on TV all the time.

"Eeeeeeeey, spit-pants! I heard that your sister was caught making out with 3 people in the bathroom."

Khan
01-12-2009, 11:02 AM
"Ma'am, I want to come over there and give you a big hug."

freethy
01-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Huh? It's totally unedited on cable. Infact it would be unedited on terrestrial TV as long as it's on after the watershed...Which of course it would be .

benluvin
01-12-2009, 01:37 PM
I don't think that they would edit out the word "bitch". I hear that word on TV all the time.


It depends what channel it's on. Sometimes some channels edit every word considered bad, while others only edit it the "real bad ones."

ILoveChiaPetsXD
01-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Like TBS? :p

I love it when TBS fucks up and forgets to edit a swear word.

DanielleRocks
01-20-2009, 12:34 PM
It'd end up like Blade when it's shown on TV.

"Get off my hoo-hoo!"

james283126
01-20-2009, 01:05 PM
i dont know what they would DUB with but i do know that it would be a long ass job trying to dub everything and cut out the nudity and the to graphic bloody violence, so yea i dont see it ever being on T.V. lol

james283126
01-20-2009, 01:07 PM
Like TBS? :p

I love it when TBS fucks up and forgets to edit a swear word.i know,lol i was watching National Security like 2 weeks ago and TBS forgot to dub in over Martin Lawrence saying "This is Bullshit" it was fuckin great,lol

Pasabi
01-20-2009, 01:22 PM
i dont know what they would DUB with but i do know that it would be a long ass job trying to dub everything and cut out the nudity and the to graphic bloody violence, so yea i dont see it ever being on T.V. lol

They probably shot twice on some of the scenes with stuff that wouldn't fit TV's standards and practices like some movies do.

jbyrd123
01-20-2009, 01:43 PM
I don't think they have even shown it on HBO or Cinemax, or Stars, don't know about TMC though, I wonder why.

james283126
01-20-2009, 01:46 PM
I don't think they have even shown it on HBO or Cinemax, or Stars, don't know about TMC though, I wonder why.no they havent, i have those channels, i dont know why, they have shown shitty movies before, the whole movie dosent suck, just the first 2 haves,lol

jbyrd123
01-20-2009, 01:52 PM
Yeah, I thought every movie goes to one of those 4 after it comes off the pay per view channles guess this is a special case of sorts.

Man In Black
02-14-2009, 12:49 PM
Probably not the most ideal thread for this - for those in the UK, RZH is on SkyPremiereHD tonight at 10pm. Only reason I mention it is that RZH doesn't have a Hi-Def release over here yet (Blu-ray is Region A locked...bummer).

EDIT: It's the Theatrical version too.

carol
02-14-2009, 07:22 PM
This is why movies shouldn't really involve so much cursing and sex. It makes it difficult for the movie to air on TV.

Khan
02-14-2009, 07:28 PM
Wow... :bigeyes:

So all films should be made with the first consideration being how it will work on TV?

If a film needs certian content in it that earns it a PG-13 or R rating, then they should (and do) go with it.

Are you saying that all war movies should be totally (and in some cases unrealistically) bloodless just to get an airing on prime time TV?

A film with rough characters should have them say "fuddy duddy" and "oh gosh?"

That is what the MPAA ratings system is for!

carol
02-14-2009, 07:38 PM
Wow... :bigeyes:

So all films should be made with the first consideration being how it will work on TV?

If a film needs certian content in it that earns it a PG-13 or R rating, then they should (and do) go with it.

Are you saying that all war movies should be totally (and in some cases unrealistically) bloodless just to get an airing on prime time TV?

A film with rough characters should have them say "fuddy duddy" and "oh gosh?"

That is what the MPAA ratings system is for!

I didn't say that they SHOULD HAVE certain content, I said it SHOULDN'T HAVE so many. Please stop responding to my posts. Please do.

Khan
02-14-2009, 07:41 PM
So slasher movies (like HR or RZH) should cut back the sex, violence and language so Peachtree TV can air them?

carol
02-14-2009, 07:42 PM
Halloween: Resurrection barely had any sexual content in it. And yes, they should.

Khan
02-14-2009, 07:43 PM
But it did have R-rated violence and a lot of coarse language from Busta and Co., especially Busta.

I guess that should have been removed too.

carol
02-14-2009, 07:44 PM
He didn't say the F-word every five seconds.

Khan
02-14-2009, 07:46 PM
It doesn't matter, as he still said it enough to warrant editing on many TV channels.

The violence would also need trimming for a prime time airing.

carol
02-14-2009, 07:47 PM
Well Zombie's film is going to need a lot of that when it airs on TV.

Khan
02-14-2009, 07:49 PM
If you don't like how movies use content, don't watch them, especially slashers and horror films.

Zombie didn't design his film for some network's TV time.

I may not like some of what is in it, but I side with him on the principle that he had a vision and worked within the confines of the MPAA system to create a film for an older audience.

We aren't working with the Haye's Code that deemed content "immoral" anymore, and that is a very good thing.

carol
02-14-2009, 07:51 PM
If you don't like how movies use content, don't watch them, especially slashers and horror films.

Zombie didn't design his film for some network's TV time.

I may not like some of what is in it, but I side with him on the principle that he had a vision and worked within the confines of the MPAA system to create a film for an older audience.

Not all slashers and horrors are like that.

Khan
02-14-2009, 07:57 PM
Only a few slashers, such as the PG-13 Prom Night remake or the DTV April Fool's Day remake (which apparently could have passed with a PG) were made with with more tame content to garner that lower classification, and people largely hated them.

Carpenter's Halloween is tame by today's standards, but it works in that case, given its legacy today.

All of the other Halloween films are very much R-rated and not that TV friendly in their content.

Look how rare PG-13 horror is in relation to the large amount of R-rated horror.

carol
02-14-2009, 07:58 PM
Only a few slashers, such as the PG-13 Prom Night remake or the DTV April Fool's Day remake (which apparently could have passed with a PG) were made with with more tame content to garner that lower classification, and people largely hated them.

Carpenter's Halloween is tame by today's standards, but it works in that case, given its legacy today.

All of the other Halloween films are very much R-rated and not that TV friendly in their content.

Look how rare PG-13 horror is in relation to the large amount of R-rated horror.

It took you six minutes to write that?

Khan
02-14-2009, 07:59 PM
That has what to do with anything?

My points are valid.

Typing speed means nothing.

carol
02-14-2009, 08:01 PM
That has what to do with anything?

My points are valid.

Typing speed means nothing.

Okay, but most people would have had that done in less than a minute.

Khan
02-14-2009, 08:09 PM
Yes, some films do overdo content in certian areas, but the cinema world and the TV world are seperate for a good reason.

Imagine if Scorsese had Goodfellas made for a TV audience.

We wouldn't have got a lot of good scenes with necessary violence and profanity portraying the world of organized crime.

carol
02-14-2009, 08:12 PM
Movies still have to air on TV. In Rob Zombie's case, his movie will not air on TV until the network find a way to clear up all that cursing and sexual content.

PS; that statement you wrote is shorter than the last one and you used two extra minutes.

Khan
02-14-2009, 08:16 PM
Who care about them airing on TV?

What matters most (and the vast majority would agree) is how the film works, not how they can get it on the airwaves.

Some of those who like RZH on here find the content necessary to get the story across.

Maybe RZH is one of those films that just wasn't meant to be aired on NBC and CBS.

Let's not be old fashioned here.

carol
02-14-2009, 08:18 PM
Who care about them airing on TV?

What matters most (and the vast majority would agree) is how the film works, not how they can get it on the airwaves.

Some of those who like RZH on here find the content necessary to get the story across.

:bigeyes: A person doesn't need bad language and swearing to understand the plot of a story!

Khan
02-14-2009, 08:20 PM
In some cases they do.

Imagine a PG version of Goodfellas and how lame it would come across.

Don't be so prudish.

carol
02-14-2009, 08:22 PM
Let's get straight on two things here:

1. I've never seen Goodfellas
2. I am prudish thank you

Khan
02-14-2009, 08:27 PM
Goodfellas
Casino
Pulp Fiction
The Departed
True Romance
Reservoir Dogs
Monster
Magnolia
Born On The 4th Of July
Nil By Mouth
Saturday Night Fever

Need I go on?

EDIT:

Any of Eddie Murphy's great early comedy

carol
02-14-2009, 08:29 PM
Two more things:

1. I never seen any of those movies
2. I didn't ask you to make a list.

Khan
02-14-2009, 08:33 PM
You are missing out. ;)

RZH is not a favorite movie of mine, but if Zombie wanted to include sex and graphic/vulgar language, who are we to stop him?

carol
02-14-2009, 08:34 PM
I am not missing out on anything.

Khan
02-14-2009, 08:35 PM
How can someone be prudish and love HR?

Busta has a rather dirty mouth.

Sounds like a contradiction to me.

carol
02-14-2009, 08:37 PM
I try to ignore that thank you. Overall, good movie.

Danny Strode
02-14-2009, 09:53 PM
Goodfellas
Casino
Pulp Fiction
The Departed
True Romance
Reservoir Dogs
Monster
Magnolia
Born On The 4th Of July
Nil By Mouth
Saturday Night Fever

Need I go on?

EDIT:

Any of Eddie Murphy's great early comedy

Scarface. ;)

FTL
02-20-2009, 11:35 PM
"Girl, I will crawl over there and skull kiss the love outta you!"


hahahahaha.

What I always loved about AMC is that they would add so much goofy shit, cut out so much shit, but they would let Pesci in Casino say stuff like "get that through your head, you filthy money loving Jew, you" or "without me, every stinkin wiseguy skell in town would take a piece of your filthy Jew act!"



:bigeyes: A person doesn't need bad language and swearing to understand the plot of a story!

Sometimes it is necessary to fit a certain movie.

Not every character in RZH is gonna be a saint.

You think Forsythe's character would have been realistic if he never cursed?


Let's get straight on two things here:

1. I've never seen Goodfellas
2. I am prudish thank you

You've never seen Goodfellas? what?!


Two more things:

1. I never seen any of those movies
2. I didn't ask you to make a list.

You shouldn't be so ignorant. 6 of those movies on that list are awesome......


I am not missing out on anything.

....and one of them is a definite classic that takes a shit on all your favorite horror movies. And that's Goodfellas, a movie where cursing is necessary because that's what the characters were like-- gangsters. Not to mention its based on a true story.

Spongerboy
02-21-2009, 12:07 AM
I try to ignore that thank you. Overall, good movie.

So you can ignore it in Resurrection but not in any other movie? I'm confused.

Khan
02-21-2009, 07:29 AM
Yes, how can all of the F13 movies get perfect marks if this is the case?

They are loaded with sex, violence and language.


Scarface

Another great example of a film that needs its R-rated content.

TheThirdHalf
02-21-2009, 07:37 AM
I try to ignore that thank you. Overall, good movie.

Myself I ignore the entire movie but there's no accounting for taste!

carol
02-21-2009, 09:50 AM
So you can ignore it in Resurrection but not in any other movie? I'm confused.

Because I LOVE Resurrection that's why.

Danny Strode
02-21-2009, 10:30 AM
I'm sorry, but I can't help but feel that that doesn't... make sense.

The Devil's Reject
02-21-2009, 10:31 AM
Because I LOVE Resurrection that's why.

Just in case you wake up and decide to change your mind.

carol
02-21-2009, 10:37 AM
Just in case you wake up and decide to change your mind.

I will ALWAYS LOVE Halloween: Resurrection. ALWAYS.

Danny Strode
02-21-2009, 10:38 AM
Me too. :D

carol
02-21-2009, 10:41 AM
Me too. :D

You don't even like Halloween: Resurrection!

The Devil's Reject
02-21-2009, 10:49 AM
I will ALWAYS LOVE Halloween: Resurrection. ALWAYS.

Looks like someone's getting banned today :D

carol
02-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Looks like someone's getting banned today :D

I didn't do anything wrong. You're one of the people that can't seem to accept the fact that I like the movie.

The Devil's Reject
02-21-2009, 10:51 AM
I didn't do anything wrong. You're one of the people that can't seem to accept the fact that I like the movie.

I can't accept that anyone would like that movie.

Danny Strode
02-21-2009, 10:53 AM
Forgive Jerry. He's a little bit slower than some of us here. :bastard:

But on topic, I'm surprised I haven't seen it on T.V. by this point.

The Devil's Reject
02-21-2009, 10:55 AM
Forgive Jerry. He's a little bit slower than some of us here.

You should talk.

Michael-_-Myers
02-21-2009, 11:37 AM
RZH was on cable televison on sky premier for a week , it had a lot of wordds cut out, the bit where inside the sanitiruim the girl was getting raped was cut out, the bagel bit with laurie in her first scene , but a lot was missing!

carol
02-21-2009, 12:05 PM
Rob Zombie's Halloween was on cable televison on sky premiere for a week. It had a lot of words cut out. The bit where inside the sanitorium the girl was getting raped was cut out, the bagel bit with Laurie in her first scene, but a lot was missing!

My point exactly. Movies shouldn't really involve so much bad content.

Danny Strode
02-21-2009, 12:07 PM
Then that defeats the purpose of Halloween.

carol
02-21-2009, 12:11 PM
Then that defeats the purpose of Halloween.

How does that defeat the purpose of Halloween? Halloween wasn't made to have a whole bunch of nudity and sex scenes in it.

Khan
02-21-2009, 12:13 PM
Movies in general are mainly made for the theater and DVD, not just for sanitized TV airings.

The 10/10 F13 movies have that content.

Danny Strode
02-21-2009, 12:13 PM
You don't make sense. If movies aren't supposed to have bad content, then there's no point to having this board.

Khan
02-21-2009, 12:15 PM
http://www.artsreformation.com/a001/hays-code.html

This is the Hays code of 1930, which eventually became ineffective and led to the creation of specific classifications via the creation of the MPAA.

carol
02-21-2009, 12:15 PM
You don't make sense. If movies aren't supposed to have bad content, then there's no point to having this board.


I didn't say that movies shouldn't have bad content in them. I said movies shouldn't have so much bad content in them.


http://www.artsreformation.com/a001/hays-code.html

This is the Hays code of 1930, which eventually became ineffective and led to the creation of specific classifications via the creation of the MPAA.

That's too long for me to read.


150th post.

Danny Strode
02-21-2009, 12:19 PM
This was your first post:


My point exactly. Movies shouldn't really involve so much bad content.

Your second:


I didn't say that movies shouldn't have bad content in them. I said movies shouldn't have so much bad content in them.

I don't see the difference.

carol
02-21-2009, 12:20 PM
This was your first post:


My point exactly. Movies shouldn't really involve so much bad content.

Your second:


I didn't say that movies shouldn't have bad content in them. I said movies shouldn't have so much bad content in them.


I don't see the difference.

I said that movies shouldn't involve so MUCH bad content.

blicdh
02-21-2009, 12:21 PM
I find murder much more horrifying than seeing a titty, so I don't know where you're going with "bad content"? What's your definition of "bad content"? Who decides whether something has "bad content" or not? These movies aren't made for the kiddies, they're made for adults.

Khan
02-21-2009, 12:24 PM
I find murder much more horrifying than seeing a titty, so I don't know where you're going with "bad content"? What's your definition of "bad content"? Who decides whether something has "bad content" or not? These movies aren't made for the kiddies, they're made for adults.

Exactly.

RZH was rated R by the MPAA, and wasn't meant to be a toddler's afternoon out with their parents (although that happens for some reason).

They give advice about the content of a film via those ratings and descriptors and the person (or parent) decides if the movie is suitable for those who may wish to see it.

Danny Strode
02-21-2009, 12:24 PM
Whatever. I'm done in this thread.

carol
02-21-2009, 12:25 PM
I find murder much more horrifying than seeing a titty, so I don't know where you're going with "bad content"? What's your definition of "bad content"? Who decides whether something has "bad content" or not? These movies aren't made for the kiddies, they're made for adults.

Bad content such as a lot of nudity and swearing. The nudity and swearing shouldn't be used so much in a movie is what I am trying to say.

Spongerboy
02-21-2009, 02:39 PM
If you don't like seeing breasts from girls you wished you looked like, and a lot of swearing in a movie, then DON'T FUCKING WATCH IT!

carol
02-21-2009, 03:50 PM
Alright! Alright! I'm sorry! Okay? I didn't mean to cause this much trouble. I am a prude person, and I am uncomfortable of some of the things I see in movies. I try to ignore it, but when it gets out of hand that's when I'm worried. I apologize for any disruption I might have caused or started. After reading what Spongerboy said to me, it hurt. It was like being shot in the heart. I even cried a little because I don't wish I looked like anyone. I had to take the time to settle myself down before I wrote something I was going to regret. I was willing to not risk using my anger because I didn't want you guys to hate me more than you already do. I just want to get some of you to understand my feelings towards bad content.

And for your information Spongerboy, I'm happy with the way I look thank you. You really hurt my feelings when you said that, and I don't think you understand how I feel now. You're just lucky I didn't explode out at you. But like I said before, I was willing to not used my anger. I came here to make friends not to be hated. But I see now that it's the other way around. So don't think you :owned: anyone like Real Fine Place suggested to you on your profile. I'm sorry for being such a pain to everyone, or TOUCHY like Slipknot666 suggested. I am truly sorry for any mishap. I'll just leave everyone alone.

Spongerboy
02-21-2009, 05:17 PM
Alright! Alright! I'm sorry! Okay? I didn't mean to cause this much trouble. I am a prude person, and I am uncomfortable of some of the things I see in movies. I try to ignore it, but when it gets out of hand that's when I'm worried. I apologize for any disruption I might have caused started. After reading what Spongerboy said to me, it hurt. It was like being shot in the heart. I even cried a little because I don't wish I looked like anyone. I had to take the time to settle myself down before I wrote something I was going to regret. I was willing to not risk using my anger because I didn't want you guys to hate me more than you already do. I just want to get some of you to understand my feelings towards bad content.

And for your information Spongerboy, I'm happy with the way I look thank you. You really hurt my feelings when you said that, and I don't think you understand how I feel now. You're just lucky I didn't explode out at you. But like I said before, I was willing to not used my anger. I came here to make friends not to be hated. But I see now that it's the other way around. So don't think you :owned: anyone like Real Fine Place suggested to you on your profile. I'm sorry for being such a pain to everyone, or TOUCHY like Slipknot666 suggested. I am truly sorry for any mishap. I'll just leave everyone alone.
I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like that.

I understand why it would hurt your feelings, but I don't even know what you look like. You may be the hottest chick in the world. It was just something I said. Don't take too much stock in anything like that, because we don't know you personally. And if we don't know you personally, then it shouldn't matter.


I do not hate you. If people like you weren't around this place would be really god damn boring. So yeah, I'm sorry.

TheThirdHalf
02-21-2009, 05:31 PM
This would indeed be a very sterile and boring place if we all had the same views

theshape09
03-24-2009, 07:07 AM
i think we all thought about this ! don't u think it's about time they showed RZ'H on tv?

Danny Strode
03-24-2009, 07:42 AM
I think you need to make a thread worth responding to. :p

tabby
03-24-2009, 07:48 AM
bit early in the game to have it on regular TV...still making the rounds on The Movie Network right now.

slipknot666
03-24-2009, 07:54 AM
A tv edited version of this movie would absolutely suck to watch.

tabby
03-24-2009, 07:56 AM
A tv edited version of this movie would absolutely suck to watch.


and it would be a very short movie, too.

Man In Black
03-24-2009, 08:04 AM
I've merged this thread with a similar one. This can now be used as future discussion on RZH on TV in various countries. I posted not too long ago that it Premiered on SkyMoviesHD here in the Uk (every night for a week straight). It was the theatrical version - no cuts.

Black Sunshine
03-24-2009, 08:32 AM
Witch in my opinion will blow! Even if a cable channel does pick up the movie, they will show the theatrical cut witch in my view is inferior to the unrated cut..

tabby
03-24-2009, 11:51 AM
well on our movie channel here in Canada (TMN), they have been showing the director's cut...which p'd off a few pals in other sites a little bit. when it does appear on network and/or cable, guaranteed my pals will be happy...but doubly p'd at the show ripped to shreds by the censors. ya can't win.

TheShapeMM
03-24-2009, 11:58 AM
I'd go in my bedroom an watch the movie on my dvd player... forget TV... I dont want to watch it where everyother second i hear... " OMG!! -Freak- You!!! OMG! Oww -Freak-!!! Dammit!!!"

I'd prefer the "Fuck's"...

Plus... If they tried to butcher it the movie wouldn't make sence cause every fricking word practically is Fuck... So... You know... Leave HALLOWEEN for VideoOnDemand and DVD... It's better that way.

tabby
03-24-2009, 12:04 PM
I'd go in my bedroom an watch the movie on my dvd player... forget TV... I dont want to watch it where everyother second i hear... " OMG!! -Freak- You!!! OMG! Oww -Freak-!!! Dammit!!!"

I'd prefer the "Fuck's"...

Plus... If they tried to butcher it the movie wouldn't make sence cause every fricking word practically is Fuck... So... You know... Leave HALLOWEEN for VideoOnDemand and DVD... It's better that way.


and don't forget IFC...where all the cool movies go. along with Showcase Action and Scream.

tmlfan4life
03-24-2009, 12:28 PM
I haven't seen it on TV in Canada yet with the exception of it being available on Pay Per View and the The Movie Network a channel I don't subscribe to. However Canadian channels like Showcase Action, the Canadian IFC channel and Scream Televison have not shown it yet.

tabby
03-24-2009, 12:30 PM
all in good time. I'd say give them until December. February at the latest when TMN is gives it's last call in October. just an estimate.:winkgrin:

theshape09
03-24-2009, 11:22 PM
oh well i guess we'll just have to wait !

Boogeyman707
03-27-2009, 05:44 PM
Id say it will start showing this Halloween on AMC.

Also why didnt Halloween 2 show on TV last year? Only ones were Halloween, H4, H5 and H6 on AMC and H20 on fx I think

Danny Strode
03-27-2009, 07:05 PM
H20 on fox I think

It was FX. ;)

Psych0ticNemes1s
04-17-2009, 06:01 AM
3/4 of the movie would have to be edited or cut out. I don't see a point in airing this movie, and I use the term movie loosely.

myers92
04-23-2009, 01:26 PM
Halloween will start airing on showtime May 2nd.
http://www.sho.com/site/schedules/product.do?episodeid=133955&seriesid=0&seasonid=0

Last_Halloween
04-24-2009, 06:16 AM
I remember watching an edited television for Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, and it was seriously like 45 mins. to an hour. There was so much taken out, it was ridiculous.

TheThirdHalf
04-24-2009, 07:11 AM
I remember watching an edited television for Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, and it was seriously like 45 mins. to an hour. There was so much taken out, it was ridiculous.

H and K...lol...a friend of mine was in that :D

slasherfanatic
04-24-2009, 08:26 AM
nothing would be more hilarious than the TBS version of Total Recall...where Arnold screams ''DIE BENNY!!!'' instead of 'SCREW YOU!!!'' lol so RZH couldnt be worse....

TheThirdHalf
04-24-2009, 08:30 AM
Nothing could be worse than the edited for TV version of 'Scarface' haha

Nightmareman88
04-24-2009, 08:42 AM
Nothing could be worse than the edited for TV version of 'Scarface' haha

"Where'd you get that beauty scar tough guy? Eating pineapple?"




But the edited for TV version of Die Hard 2 is probably worse.

TheThirdHalf
04-24-2009, 08:46 AM
"Where'd you get that beauty scar tough guy? Eating pineapple?"

:laughup:

Nightmareman88
04-24-2009, 09:13 AM
:laughup:

Heh, but have you seen the edited tv version of Die Hard 2?

5D02uo1gTME

Halloweenfan80
04-24-2009, 01:25 PM
Rob Zombie's Halloween will be on May 2nd on Showtime at 9:00 P.M.

Danny Strode
04-24-2009, 03:46 PM
Rob Zombie's Halloween will be on May 2nd on Showtime at 9:00 P.M.

That's the first post of this page, dude. ;)

ILoveChiaPetsXD
03-19-2010, 08:09 PM
It appears that SpikeTV has picked up the rights for the television broadcast of RZ's Halloween. It premieres this Sunday @9PM. I can't fucking wait to see the edited skull-fuck line :D

The Dark Knight
03-19-2010, 08:50 PM
Woman! I will crawl over there and break your skull!

ILoveChiaPetsXD
03-19-2010, 08:56 PM
I'm going to die laughing if they show the Unrated cut with the rape scene.

PumpkinKing~*`
03-20-2010, 08:14 AM
Wow this will be awful and very laughable edited, I love watching TV networks try to make an R rated movie TV 14 L S V G. This should be interesting, hope my dish gets fixed by Sunday so I can watch it.

This TV cut will probaby use alot of the D-Cuts scenes won't it? For time and everything they cut out it would have to. I wonder if they got the actors to come back for dubbing or if its gonna be the horrible kind were they get a "sound alike", that normally works out pretty bad.

myerslilBRO
03-20-2010, 08:20 AM
Annie: You wanna fuck me? RZH UC

Annie: You wanna do me? RZH on TV

haha

The Frightmaster
03-20-2010, 08:43 AM
It appears that SpikeTV has picked up the rights for the television broadcast of RZ's Halloween. It premieres this Sunday @9PM. I can't fucking wait to see the edited skull-fuck line :D

Like I said in the Halloween on TV thread, Spike is gonna have their hands full editing RZH. They're gonna have to change every other word and they'll have to paint/draw bras and underwear on the girls, like they did with Showgirls. lol

I wonder what "creative" ways they're gonna change such lines as "Bitch, I will crawl over there and I will skull fuck the shit out of you!" and the one where the boy tells Michael they had to pump the cum out his sister/mother. :D

PumpkinKing~*`
03-20-2010, 09:18 AM
As far as the bully seen that could probably be cut so they see Michael, see Mommy, fight, and be done with it. As far as the word "bitch" it'll probably get turned to "witch" or just muted. "Bitch, I will crawl over there and I will skull fuck the shit out of you!" would probably be "----, I will crawl over there and I will beat ---- the crap out of you!". I'm sure it'll be the T-Cut heavily edited with the extra scenes that were in the D-Cut added, with maybe a few completely deleted\alterante scenes.

As far as nudty they can most likey work around Lynda and Judith but with Annie they'll probably do the blur thingy and cut alot out\around as well. Alot of the nudy shots can probably just be cropped a little and work.

Reobeem
03-20-2010, 01:05 PM
For the nudity scenes they could darken it like they did in the trailer. As for the language there's going to be alot of muteing.

Pasabi
03-20-2010, 08:17 PM
Or maybe they will just use a blur like they do in some films like when SyFy plays Leprechaun 3 they just blur the nudity parts.

Pasabi
03-21-2010, 08:33 PM
For the people who saw it on Spike tonight how was it? What was edited?

TheNightmareMan
03-22-2010, 12:12 AM
For the people who saw it on Spike tonight how was it? What was edited?

For starters most of the language was either muted or left out entirely. Nudity was either cropped or blurred.

A lot of the breakfast scene dialouge was taken out. However, "choke the chicken" was left in, while "jerkin' off" was taken out.

The blood spurting from Ronnie's throat was taken out.

Steve and Judith's sex scene was taken out.

I think they left the shot of Judith laying on the floor where you can see up the shirt she has on intact.

A notable change to one of Lynda's lines: "That C-U--- yeah, needs to get laid". She got to spell half the word.

Bob and Lynda's sex scene was left intact.

Paul and Annie's sex scene was taken out up to the point when Michael grabs Paul.

Danny Strode
03-22-2010, 06:42 AM
For the nudity scenes they could darken it like they did in the trailer. As for the language there's going to be alot of muteing.

Bras or close-ups had been used in the trailer.

Pasabi
03-22-2010, 11:42 AM
For starters most of the language was either muted or left out entirely. Nudity was either cropped or blurred.

A lot of the breakfast scene dialouge was taken out. However, "choke the chicken" was left in, while "jerkin' off" was taken out.

The blood spurting from Ronnie's throat was taken out.

Steve and Judith's sex scene was taken out.

I think they left the shot of Judith laying on the floor where you can see up the shirt she has on intact.

A notable change to one of Lynda's lines: "That C-U--- yeah, needs to get laid". She got to spell half the word.

Bob and Lynda's sex scene was left intact.

Paul and Annie's sex scene was taken out up to the point when Michael grabs Paul.

Thanks a lot Nightmare.

MichaelJrdnMyrs
03-22-2010, 03:09 PM
Man, those were some pretty damn jarring snips. My favorite being thrown right into the Annie attack almost midway through. Made Zombie's editing look almost soothing in comparison.

Were there some scenes from the earlier leaked cut in there? Could've sworn the Loomis answering the old-school phone in the middle of the night was swapped out of the theatrical for him answering on a cellphone during the day, but maybe I have those switched around.

Reobeem
03-22-2010, 04:05 PM
The only thing I noticed was it was greenish during the dark scenes and much darker all around then the DVD.

Danny Strode
03-22-2010, 04:14 PM
I'll bet the aspect ratio was off too. That's why I never even watched Star Wars on Spike.

Franchise
03-22-2010, 04:34 PM
Well, I wasn't able to DVR it or watch it. That sucks.

TheNightmareMan
03-22-2010, 11:53 PM
It's gonna be on again Mar. 27 at 10 PM and Apr. 1 at 7 PM.

PumpkinKing~*`
03-23-2010, 12:54 PM
I think a few alternate shots may have been used as well but I don't know. I did notice the dark scenes being darker and with an odd greenish tint to the blacks. And Loomis answering a cell phone in the day is a delteted scene on the D-Cut DVD so pretty sure that was only in the Workprint.

Yes some of the editing was just plain odd, instead of dubbing it out, muting it or anything they cut almost all of the attack on Annie and Paul out, yet they were clothed up until the end. And yet they left Bob and Lynda's romp uncut (no nudity but still)? They could've easily mutted out the "You wanna fuck me?" lines or something so it wasn't so choppy. The blurring was done nicely and subtly for the most part, only really obvious place was once with Annie in the floor and when Lynda was lying in the basement of the Myers' place. The editing was pretty smooth but Annie''s attack went from like 5 minutes to 1. Oddly enough most of the violence was kept in. Something odd I noticed was the fact that the word "snatch" was mutted from Lynda's cheerleading inccedent speach, guess it was done to cover up the "dirty talk". I also thought it was funny how much cussing they allowed and then they muted out the word "tits". No logic to these things for the most part. Most of the choppyness came from the audio and not the video as well.

Reobeem
03-23-2010, 03:43 PM
Also didn't they remove a scene where Lynda was being mean to a girl at school, I think she dumped the girl's drink on her?

MichaelJrdnMyrs
03-23-2010, 04:40 PM
Also didn't they remove a scene where Lynda was being mean to a girl at school, I think she dumped the girl's drink on her?

That I clearly recall being in the workprint. It was replaced by the "Aw shit, am I a whore" phone call with Laurie to try and make her character more sympathetic.

EvilOnTwoLegs
03-23-2010, 04:45 PM
I saw this on Spike the other night, but basically skipped past it, thinking, "Eh, I've got the BD, so why bother?" Didn't even occur to me to take a look at how they handled the aspect ratio. Considering the final release was matted from 1.85 to 2.35, they could've opened up those mattes and screened it in 1.78 - or hell, even 1.37 - and probably had better framing than the theatrical presentation/DVD/BD. Then again, if they cropped it further from the matted 2.35 print, it would've been damn near unwatchable, with well over half the picture gone.

Next time I catch it on, I'll have to pay more attention to what they did with it.

Danny Strode
03-23-2010, 07:13 PM
Yeah, the ratio for a lot of films that Spike airs is what bugs me and turns me away from watching them. They get it wrong with Star Wars too.

EvilOnTwoLegs
03-23-2010, 07:36 PM
Well, in the case of RZH, though, it could roll either way, since the theatrical aspect ratio for RZH was matted from 1.85 to 2.35, thereby ruining the composition. The Workprint was in 1.85 (Zombie's preferred ratio, judging by Ho1KC, TDR and H2), but by the time the movie made it to theaters (and eventually DVD and BD), the top and bottom had been lopped off the image, making many scenes look cramped and awkward.

So if Spike aired it in the "wrong" aspect ratio, and did so by showing it in an open-matte 1.78 or 1.85, that would actually be pretty much the right aspect ratio, in my opinion. Even a fullscreen 1.37 transfer might be preferable in certain scenes. However, if they cropped it down from an already matted print, it would look ridiculous.

MMyers89
03-23-2010, 08:35 PM
It was shown in 1.85:1 on Spike.

EvilOnTwoLegs
03-24-2010, 10:48 AM
So the only question is, was it shown in open-matte 1.85, or trimmed to 1.85 from a 2.35 print? Because if it was shown in open-matte 1.85, that would be, in my opinion, the best way to watch the film, since that was the director's initial intention when he was shooting it. However, if it was cropped from a 2.35 print, well over half the original image would be gone, and the presentation would be awful.

MischievousSpirit
03-24-2010, 11:23 AM
So the only question is, was it shown in open-matte 1.85, or trimmed to 1.85 from a 2.35 print? Because if it was shown in open-matte 1.85, that would be, in my opinion, the best way to watch the film, since that was the director's initial intention when he was shooting it. However, if it was cropped from a 2.35 print, well over half the original image would be gone, and the presentation would be awful.

The presentation seemed pretty good, and accurate in it's aspect ratio. But I didn't watch it for more than 5 or 10 minutes. Like you, I have both cuts on BD/DVD, so why would I wanna watch a chopped up version with more commercials than movie time?

MMyers89
03-24-2010, 11:46 AM
Yeah, I only caught about 10 minutes or so, but it appeared to be open matte and not trimmed down. I think if it was trimmed down you'd be missing so much of the image from all four sides it would be unwatchable. I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I got the feeling you could see more of the top and bottom than you can on the 2.35:1 DVD presentation, which suggests it was open matte.

PumpkinKing~*`
03-24-2010, 04:32 PM
They cut Deborah's "I can't take this anymore!" line. I wonder why? If I remember right it was in the theatrical cut as well.

Danny Strode
03-24-2010, 04:34 PM
They cut Deborah's "I can't take this anymore!" line. I wonder why? If I remember right it was in the theatrical cut as well.


Probably 'cause she said, "I can't take this shit anymore!".

Monte
03-25-2010, 04:39 PM
I always assumed the aspect ratio was just one of the Carpenter-isms that Zombie felt he had to adhere to, despite everything else about the cinematography not fitting well with it. But I guess it was something that was forced on him?

I'd like to know how this movie could be shown on non-premium TV and make any sense at all, with the amount of editing and overdubbing that would have to be done. I'm imagining something similar to some of the hilarious editing that was done to H2.

PumpkinKing~*`
03-29-2010, 01:45 PM
Probably 'cause she said, "I can't take this shit anymore!".

Got ya, forgit the exact line. Odd that they just didn't mute that out though. But I'm a firm believer in the fact that there isn't any logic to the TV versions of movies (in the editing).

LunkenDrush
04-02-2010, 10:53 PM
The only good part about it being on SPIKE was it was a helluva lot easier to see than it was on the DVD versions. The DVD versions are so damn dark that you cannot see shit...there was a lot more I saw on SPIKE than I did on my own damn DVD copy. I understand it's meant to be dark, but for fucks sake...

EvilOnTwoLegs
04-02-2010, 11:16 PM
I always assumed the aspect ratio was just one of the Carpenter-isms that Zombie felt he had to adhere to, despite everything else about the cinematography not fitting well with it. But I guess it was something that was forced on him?

I would imagine that he was pressured to matte it out. After all, he shot it in 1.85, it was obviously FRAMED for 1.85, and the Workprint cut that he delivered to Dimension, that was initially test-screened, was 1.85. Clearly, the movie was intended to be screened in 1.85...the 2.35 presentation is amazingly awkward in a number of scenes.



I'd like to know how this movie could be shown on non-premium TV and make any sense at all, with the amount of editing and overdubbing that would have to be done. I'm imagining something similar to some of the hilarious editing that was done to H2.

Eh, I've seen GoodFellas on non-premium TV...broadcast TV, even. haha If they can manage that, then RZH presents no problem.



The only good part about it being on SPIKE was it was a helluva lot easier to see than it was on the DVD versions. The DVD versions are so damn dark that you cannot see shit...there was a lot more I saw on SPIKE than I did on my own damn DVD copy. I understand it's meant to be dark, but for fucks sake...

If it was open-matte 1.85, that probably helped. When it's matted to 2.35, as it was in theaters and on DVD/BD, things get obscured.

I'd really like to see an open-matte BD release...not that it'll ever happen.