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atomic dog
09-14-2007, 12:09 PM
from here:

http://www.ohmb.net/showthread.php?t=12250

Todd
09-14-2007, 12:25 PM
Superbad is also R-rated (and for a good reason), so its success is a very good thing.

I was looking on Box Office Mojo at the top earning movies at all time, and 95% (or more) of them were not R-rated.
It's still a comedy, and I don't think there is much dispute that comedies appeal to a larger fan base than horror movies do.
Plus, if Superbad was a remake of a movie made nearly thirty years ago which has had a eight sequels, I doubt it would be doing as well.
The original Police Academy made eighty one million dollars on a budget of about fourteen million back in '84, which tells you how much of a hit it was, but if they tried to do a remake of it today, do you think it would do well?
And yes, it was rated R.

Monte
09-14-2007, 12:33 PM
The original Police Academy made eighty one million dollars on a budget of about fourteen million back in '84, which tells you how much of a hit it was, but if they tried to do a remake of it today, do you think it would do well?

I guess we're going to find that out, since a remake is in fact being made.

Todd 78
09-14-2007, 12:36 PM
I guess we're going to find that out, since a remake is in fact being made.

you go0tta be kidding me

The Dark Knight
09-14-2007, 12:43 PM
is this one gonna be about goofy cops walking around, getting into mischief?

Todd
09-14-2007, 12:44 PM
I guess we're going to find that out, since a remake is in fact being made.
Not suprising.

Khan
09-14-2007, 12:44 PM
It's still a comedy, and I don't think there is much dispute that comedies appeal to a larger fan base than horror movies do.
Plus, if Superbad was a remake of a movie made nearly thirty years ago which has had a eight sequels, I doubt it would be doing as well.
The original Police Academy made eighty one million dollars on a budget of about fourteen million back in '84, which tells you how much of a hit it was, but if they tried to do a remake of it today, do you think it would do well?
And yes, it was rated R.

You make good points.

I agree that remakes are considered pointless for the most part other then to make rich people richer.

Danny Strode
09-14-2007, 12:53 PM
is this one gonna be about goofy cops walking around, getting into mischief?

Sounds like the cops in real life where I live. ;)

Khan
09-14-2007, 12:55 PM
I guess we're going to find that out, since a remake is in fact being made.

Doesn't surprise me.

Todd
09-14-2007, 01:50 PM
You make good points.

I agree that remakes are considered pointless for the most part other then to make rich people richer.
If a remake can be done well, I don't have a problem with it. I mean, for all of the complaints people have had about Rob Zombies version of Halloween, at least we didn't end up with Lindsay Lohan as Laurie in some hacked together, MTVified retread of the original.

Khan
09-14-2007, 02:30 PM
Yeah, that is true.

Sometimes, I just want something different then remakes and sequels.

TOO MUCH BS
09-14-2007, 02:42 PM
i also heard that they are remaking the revenge of the nerds

Monte
09-14-2007, 02:43 PM
This is the decade of remakes, like the 80s was the decade of sequels. Next time we'll be getting the remakes of the sequels to the remakes.


i also heard that they are remaking the revenge of the nerds

They were, but it was scrapped because of something having to do with the college they were going to shoot at.

TOO MUCH BS
09-14-2007, 02:58 PM
ah well there goes that! ;)

Patrick1679
09-14-2007, 03:07 PM
I hope they do a remake of I STILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER...

:vomit:

Inhumane
09-14-2007, 03:10 PM
Since this is a new thread, here's a complete breakdown of Rob Zombie's Halloween at the B.O.:

Friday, 8/31:
$10,896,610

Saturday, 9/1:
$8,554,661 (-21.5%)

Sunday, 9/2:
$6,911,096 (-19.2)

Monday (Labor Day), 9/3:
$4,229,392 (-38.8)

Tuesday, 9/4:
$1,468,732 (-65.3)

Wednesday, 9/5:
$1,131,597 (-23%)

Thursday, 9/6:
$1,003,996 (-11.3%)

Friday, 9/7:
$3,093,679 -------- > weekend to weekend total: -63.9%

Saturday, 9/8:
$4,147,075 -------- > weekend to weekend total: -63.9%

Sunday, 9/9:
$2,273,016 -------- > weekend to weekend total: -63.9%

Monday, 9/10:
$677,988 (-70.2%)

Tuesday, 9/11:
$666,417 (-1.7%)

Wednesday, 9/12:
$600,650 (-9.9%)

Thursday, 9/13:
$598,156 (-.4%)

TOTAL:
$46,253,065

Khan
09-14-2007, 03:37 PM
It is to be expected.

As Todd said, this isn't a huge draw compared to other films.

Todd
09-14-2007, 03:43 PM
It is to be expected.

As Todd said, this isn't a huge draw compared to other films.
Yep, and all things considered, it's doing pretty well.
It's going to cross into the fifty million territory this weekend and just might end up making another five million or so before it's out of theaters in the U.S.
Now, if it does well overseas it could have a total haul of nearly seventy million. I'd say that's pretty good.

Khan
09-14-2007, 03:44 PM
I wonder how many theaters it will get internationally.

Todd
09-14-2007, 03:56 PM
I wonder how many theaters it will get internationally.
I have no idea.
I don't even know how many other countries it's being released in.
I'm just guessing that it could end up making a minimum of ten million.

Khan
09-14-2007, 04:42 PM
I know for sure that Belgium, the UK and France are getting it.

Myers Insurance
09-14-2007, 04:45 PM
The Netherlands and Australia are as well.

Khan
09-14-2007, 04:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

One thing to note is that Halloween (the season) is mainly a North American thing, with a few other countries adapting it.

Todd
09-14-2007, 05:01 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

One thing to note is that Halloween (the season) is mainly a North American thing, with a few other countries adapting it.
That article said that Halloween was popular in England and Mexico.
In fact, it says that in England, spending on Halloween has risen ten fold in the last few years. We know that at least five other countries are getting it, so that should be good for another ten million, right???

Khan
09-14-2007, 05:04 PM
I would agree with that.

Now how much does this movie have to earn to break even for the studio when the production budget, advertising and theater cut are taken out?

Todd
09-14-2007, 05:24 PM
I would agree with that.

Now how much does this movie have to earn to break even for the studio when the production budget, advertising and theater cut are taken out?
I guess that would depend on how much was spent on advertising. There was an onslaught of tv spots in the two weeks or so prior to the movie being released, but not much before and none after.

Todd 78
09-14-2007, 05:42 PM
:bastard:
I would agree with that.

Now how much does this movie have to earn to break even for the studio when the production budget, advertising and theater cut are taken out?

It depends. Studios get betwen 85-90 percent of the gross opening weekend. Hence studios love films that are font loaded. ( Its not the 50/50 split.) It gets lower in the third and fourth weeks.

The Dark Shape
09-15-2007, 06:32 AM
Fantasy Moguls is reporting a $1.4 million Friday. This is exactly in line with Dawn '04 and points toward a $4.5m weekend.

Myers Insurance
09-15-2007, 06:39 AM
I've read Halloween is really big in Ireland, since that's where it originated. However, I've never been to Ireland so I couldn't tell you. Maybe Kinick could tell us?

Todd
09-15-2007, 06:45 AM
Fantasy Moguls is reporting a $1.4 million Friday. This is exactly in line with Dawn '04 and points toward a $4.5m weekend.
Which would put it at fifty one million.
Another five million and, well, you know the rest of the story.
If it hangs in the top ten for another two weeks, it should be able to hit that mark.
What I can't understand is why they didn't keep advertising it a bit after the opening weekend when it did so well. I'm still seeing tv spots for 3:10 To Yuma.

The Dark Shape
09-15-2007, 06:55 AM
I saw a TV spot for Halloween two nights ago. They just advertise on less expensive networks because, let's face it, the movie has made most of its money.

Next week's hold -- both in theaters and gross -- will decide whether it tops H20.

Beetlescott
09-15-2007, 07:06 AM
This movie is actually doing better than I thought! I guess that sets it up for a definite sequel. Now, will Zombie come back?

The Dark Shape
09-15-2007, 07:08 AM
No, because there's not going to be a sequel.

Todd
09-15-2007, 07:21 AM
I saw a TV spot for Halloween two nights ago. They just advertise on less expensive networks because, let's face it, the movie has made most of its money.

Next week's hold -- both in theaters and gross -- will decide whether it tops H20.
I'm talking about right after its opening weekend.
I didn't see any tv spots anywhere to advertise that it was the number one movie. Studios usually want to encourage even more box office by letting people know how well the movie did on its opening weekend. There may have been a few spots here and there, but if so, I didn't see any of them.
As far as it beating H20 goes, if it makes it to fifty one million this weekend, it would only need to make three million next week (including the weekend) and another two million the week after that. I think it's pretty much a given that it will slightly surpass H20. I don't know why I'm so concerned about that, though.

Todd 78
09-15-2007, 07:24 AM
No, because there's not going to be a sequel.

IWhile I feel the movie gave me closure, I wouldn't make a comment lke that. Nothing is impossible

Kinick
09-15-2007, 07:25 AM
I've read Halloween is really big in Ireland, since that's where it originated. However, I've never been to Ireland so I couldn't tell you. Maybe Kinick could tell us?

It's quite big. I'm from the North, there are a lot of events and celebrations during the Halloween weekend...i doubt there'll be much extra intake at the Irish box office but it is playing on one of the big screens at my cinema, my town is very small, it'll probably stay for a week.

Halloween has always been my favourite holiday when i was younger... some of my best memories - All across towns, huge bonfires were lit. Oh, there was a marvelous celebration. People danced, and they played games, and dressed up in costumes, hoping to ward off the evil spirits. Especially the boogey man!

This always reminds me of my Halloween days. haha

Todd
09-15-2007, 07:29 AM
IWhile I feel the movie gave me closure, I wouldn't make a comment lke that. Nothing is impossible
Thanks for beating me to it.
I find it almost impossible to believe that there won't be another Halloween movie. The Weinsteins can say what they want to right now, but I'm not buying it.

Myers Insurance
09-15-2007, 08:05 AM
IWhile I feel the movie gave me closure, I wouldn't make a comment lke that. Nothing is impossible

It is when the Weinstein's and Akkad say that they're not going to make a sequel.

Todd
09-15-2007, 08:48 AM
It is when the Weinstein's and Akkad say that they're not going to make a sequel.
I don't think they've been a definitive as that.
They might not have current plans to do so, but plans have a tendency to be changed.....especially when money is involved.

Todd 78
09-15-2007, 09:01 AM
It is when the Weinstein's and Akkad say that they're not going to make a sequel.

Weinstein also said never say never, so yeah..... call me cyncal. Don't get me wrong, I felt like it was the end after I saw the movie. In my mind Zombie killed off Michael. but unfortunately greedy executives can change that.

Khan
09-15-2007, 10:55 AM
It is when the Weinstein's and Akkad say that they're not going to make a sequel.

Well, Bob W. never explicitly said that, or did I miss something?

renee30152
09-15-2007, 10:57 AM
No, because there's not going to be a sequel.


That's already been confirmed? I hope not.

Patrick1679
09-15-2007, 11:34 AM
Which would put it at fifty one million.
Another five million and, well, you know the rest of the story.
If it hangs in the top ten for another two weeks, it should be able to hit that mark.
What I can't understand is why they didn't keep advertising it a bit after the opening weekend when it did so well. I'm still seeing tv spots for 3:10 To Yuma.

I totally agree. Where are the commercials?

Once October hits I would start another marketing campaign. Labor Day weekend people are only thinking of summer. The average person's not thinking about a horror movie...yet. Especially, one that's called HALLOWEEN. But come early October when it starts getting chilly is the time to hit the airwaves...again.

I believe it can get some legs. Even if they cut out some theatres so what? Nowadays they have multiplexes that hold 20 movies! So I don't see a problem with it being in theatres a little longer. I know alot of people who want to see it but just haven't gotten around to it yet. The reason is their not in the mood right now. Summer is barely over. But i'm sure once October rolls around we'll see a jump in it. :yeah:

MichaelJrdnMyrs
09-15-2007, 12:34 PM
No, because there's not going to be a sequel.


Heh. Naw, of course not.

Todd
09-15-2007, 01:58 PM
I totally agree. Where are the commercials?

Once October hits I would start another marketing campaign. Labor Day weekend people are only thinking of summer. The average person's not thinking about a horror movie...yet. Especially, one that's called HALLOWEEN. But come early October when it starts getting chilly is the time to hit the airwaves...again.

I believe it can get some legs. Even if they cut out some theatres so what? Nowadays they have multiplexes that hold 20 movies! So I don't see a problem with it being in theatres a little longer. I know alot of people who want to see it but just haven't gotten around to it yet. The reason is their not in the mood right now. Summer is barely over. But i'm sure once October rolls around we'll see a jump in it. :yeah:
I guess it's not impossible that it could see a resurgence in October, but it's pretty unlikely. Most people who wanted to see it already have. There are probably a few stragglers as well as people who are seeing it for the second, third, fourth, or fifth time, but it's pretty much going to be done in theaters in the next two or three weeks.

Khan
09-15-2007, 03:08 PM
I guess it's not impossible that it could see a resurgence in October, but it's pretty unlikely. Most people who wanted to see it already have. There are probably a few stragglers as well as people who are seeing it for the second, third, fourth, or fifth time, but it's pretty much going to be done in theaters in the next two or three weeks.

I agree.

Patrick is the eternal optimist, and I commend him for that, but the movie will be gone pretty soon.

Todd
09-15-2007, 03:34 PM
I agree.

Patrick is the eternal optimist, and I commend him for that, but the movie will be gone pretty soon.
Not before picking up another seven or eight million, I bet.

Khan
09-15-2007, 03:35 PM
That sounds reasonable.

Todd
09-15-2007, 03:43 PM
That sounds reasonable.
I'm thinking it might make that much more after this weekend.
That might be stretching it, though. I see it hitting about fifty one million this weekend, getting another million during the week, getting about two or three million next weekend, and then perhaps picking up another million before fading away.

Khan
09-15-2007, 03:45 PM
This is it's last weekend to shine before Resident Evil comes out and eats up its theater count.

Todd
09-15-2007, 03:49 PM
This is it's last weekend to shine before Resident Evil comes out and eats up its theater count.
There are other movies that might be cut to make room for RE, too, though.
Shoot em up isn't exactly packing them in....

Khan
09-15-2007, 03:50 PM
There are other movies that might be cut to make room for RE, too, though.
Shoot em up isn't exactly packing them in....

Death Sentence was cut by over 1000 theaters.

Todd
09-15-2007, 03:54 PM
Death Sentence was cut by over 1000 theaters.
According to Box office Mojo, Halloween has nearly 48 million right now.
Think it can bring in another two million this weekend?

Khan
09-15-2007, 03:59 PM
That is definitely a possibility.

I figure that The Brave One will be #1.

MichaelJrdnMyrs
09-15-2007, 04:03 PM
This is it's last weekend to shine before Resident Evil comes out and eats up its theater count.

Resident Evil Has A Destiny...

Khan
09-15-2007, 05:07 PM
*cues Darth Vader breathing*

Patrick1679
09-15-2007, 05:32 PM
I agree.

Patrick is the eternal optimist, and I commend him for that, but the movie will be gone pretty soon.

Thank You.

It's the best way of looking at things.:)

Khan
09-15-2007, 05:34 PM
I am a realist with a dash of pessimist.

I don't like to get my hopes up by expecting things that won't happen.

MichaelJrdnMyrs
09-15-2007, 05:52 PM
I am a realist with a dash of pessimist.

I don't like to get my hopes up by expecting things that won't happen.


But if you believe hard enough, Halloween could make $100 million dollars...

Khan
09-15-2007, 05:58 PM
Believing won't make that happen. ;)

Myers Insurance
09-15-2007, 07:20 PM
RZH will make at least $55 million by the time it finishes in theatres.

DeanCorso
09-15-2007, 09:40 PM
But if you believe hard enough, Halloween could make $100 million dollars...


in this reality it wont happend.....the last horror/slasher movie that made 100 millions at the box office was "Scream" and that was 11 years ago.

Khan
09-15-2007, 10:00 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=scream&p=.htm

All of the Scream movies made over $100 million.

wyatt s
09-15-2007, 10:04 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=scream&p=.htm

All of the Scream movies made over $100 million.

And only one, if that, deserved to.

njdevs03champs
09-15-2007, 10:40 PM
It might be up to par with Scream but Im not sure if it was reach 100 million.

Todd
09-16-2007, 06:15 AM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=scream&p=.htm

All of the Scream movies made over $100 million.
Scream was aimed at the MTV crowd and had a crew of famous and semi famous stars.
The first two were acually very good, too.
The third was okay but a little disappointing.

The Dark Shape
09-16-2007, 07:13 AM
Scream 1 and 2 made $100 million. And the last horror film to do it was The Grudge.

Khan
09-16-2007, 07:23 AM
Scream was aimed at the MTV crowd and had a crew of famous and semi famous stars.
The first two were acually very good, too.
The third was okay but a little disappointing.

I like the first two as well, but I agree that Scream 3 was a bit of let down.


Scream 1 and 2 made $100 million. And the last horror film to do it was The Grudge.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=scream3.htm

Scream 3 made $161 million worldwide.

Kinick
09-16-2007, 07:23 AM
That's because Scream is a much more superior film than this, a materpiece even...well deserved its 100 million.

DeanCorso
09-16-2007, 07:28 AM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=scream&p=.htm

All of the Scream movies made over $100 million.

yea if you take also the overseas box office numbers but only "Scream" and "Scream 2" did 100 millions over here, "Scream 3" didnt.


Scream 1 and 2 made $100 million. And the last horror film to do it was The Grudge.

you are right...i didnt know that "The Grudge" made 100 milions.

The Dark Shape
09-16-2007, 07:30 AM
Yes, but when it comes to that kind of stat ($100m+), I prefer domestic totals, because they are much more important to the studios.

Myers Insurance
09-16-2007, 07:31 AM
in this reality it wont happend.....the last horror/slasher movie that made 100 millions at the box office was "Scream" and that was 11 years ago.

The Saw movies make 100 million.

The Dark Shape
09-16-2007, 07:35 AM
Again, worldwide. It's a bit harder to do it domestically, and studios get a much smaller chunk of the overseas gross.

DeanCorso
09-16-2007, 07:46 AM
The Saw movies make 100 million.

but thats with the overseas box office numbers....domestically none of them didnt.


then again i could say "The Exorcism of Emily Rose" (which IMO its one of rarest great horror movie in the last couples of years) made 100 millions (it made exactly 140 millions) but thats with the overseas numbers included, domestically it did 75 millions, that movie became a sleeper hit.

Myers Insurance
09-16-2007, 07:48 AM
Didn't Saw 3 get close to getting 100 million in the US and Canada? I remember reading it's final gross was around 97 or 98 million.

DeanCorso
09-16-2007, 07:50 AM
Didn't Saw 3 get close to getting 100 million in the US and Canada? I remember reading it's final gross was around 97 or 98 million.


it did get close...but "Saw 3" end up with 80.2 millions.

:D Oh btw i take my source on this great website called WorlwideBoxOffice

http://www.worldwideboxoffice.com/

Myers Insurance
09-16-2007, 07:53 AM
It's safe to say that the Saw films are probably the most successful horror series in recent years.

samhain51
09-16-2007, 07:54 AM
Personally I think the saw films were over rated I did like them but nothing great!!

DeanCorso
09-16-2007, 07:59 AM
It's safe to say that the Saw films are probably the most successful horror series in recent years.

yea i take it safe to say that (if we take the box office numbers)....even if for me i saw :D only the original "Saw" movie, it was good (but i only seen it once, i need to see it again) but from what people have been telling me i had high expectation..i guess i didnt like it has much i thought i would.

The Dark Shape
09-16-2007, 08:04 AM
Saw Numbers (domestically / worldwide):

Saw: $55,185,045 / $103,096,345
Saw II: $87,039,965 / $147,739,965
Saw III: $80,238,724 / $164,856,102

Khan
09-16-2007, 08:19 AM
I wonder if Saw 4 will break $100 million domestically.

The Dark Shape
09-16-2007, 08:24 AM
Nah, it's going to drop. Saw III had a very 'final' ending, so a few people probably won't come back. That said, S3 was never marketed as the last movie, so I doubt people will feel cheated as with Friday 5 and Halloween 8.

Todd
09-16-2007, 12:43 PM
Box office Mojo is estimating Halloween made five million this weekend, putting it over the fifty one million mark.
That could change, of course.

Myers Insurance
09-16-2007, 12:54 PM
Saw IV will probably get a little more than $100 million. From what I hear, they're wanting to go all out with promotion.

As for Halloween, I still bet it'll beat H20.

wyatt s
09-16-2007, 12:58 PM
I have a feeling that despite how well it's promoted Saw IV will have a bit of a drop at the boxoffice. It'll make money, and good money, but it'll make less than 3 of that much I'm pretty positive.

As for Halloween, at this point I'm wondering just how much it'll make in the foreign market. I'm betting another 15 or 20 mil but I'm not really sure.

Todd
09-16-2007, 01:01 PM
As for Halloween, I still bet it'll beat H20.
It's going to be a wire job.
If it really is over the fifty one million mark, then it needs another five million to top H20. Five million might not seem much, but at this point in the game, it is.

Myers Insurance
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
It's only been out for 2 weeks and made $50 million. It could easily make another $5 million by the time October 31 approaches.

Khan
09-16-2007, 01:10 PM
It's going to be a wire job.
If it really is over the fifty one million mark, then it needs another five million to top H20. Five million might not seem much, but at this point in the game, it is.

I agree.

If you look as the decline in box office, it went from $30 million to an estimated $5 million within three weeks.

That is an 83% drop in box office.

Worthystevens
09-16-2007, 01:10 PM
It's only been out for 2 weeks and made $50 million. It could easily make another $5 million by the time October 31 approaches.

I think it will. But it all depends on the theatre droppings now.

Khan
09-16-2007, 01:13 PM
They have already cut 424 theaters.

Myers Insurance
09-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Didn't it have a 3,100 theatre opening?

The Dark Shape
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
I'm fairly sure Halloween will top H20 at this point, unless Extinction's effect on it is catastrophic.

Khan
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
No, just over 3400 theaters.

Todd
09-16-2007, 01:16 PM
It's only been out for 2 weeks and made $50 million. It could easily make another $5 million by the time October 31 approaches.
It's been out for three weekends now and unless they re-release it, it won't be in any theaters by Oct 31.

Khan
09-16-2007, 01:16 PM
Todd is correct.

Todd
09-16-2007, 01:17 PM
Todd is correct.
I can't even get my wife to say that.....

Myers Insurance
09-16-2007, 01:28 PM
It'll be in dollar theatres by October 31.

Todd
09-16-2007, 02:51 PM
It'll be in dollar theatres by October 31.
I'll go you one further and say that it won't be in any theaters by then.
Unless they decided to re-release it, that is.
I don't think that's very likely, though.

Khan
09-16-2007, 03:07 PM
Halloween is in sixth place in its third weekend with an estimated $5 million.

Todd
09-16-2007, 03:37 PM
Halloween is in sixth place in its third weekend with an estimated $5 million.
I beat you to it a few posts back, sir.
Except for the bit about it being in sixth place.
We all know it's running on fumes right now, but the question is how much further it can go before the engine stalls completely.

TOO MUCH BS
09-16-2007, 03:54 PM
well even if it doesn't top h20 it had a hell of a run ;)

MichaelMyers04
09-16-2007, 03:59 PM
Here's hoping it does beat H20. It won't matter in the long run if it does or doesn't, but this seems like the only HalloweeN movie which will probably make this much (atleast for the time being, considering this is the big remake of such a classic).

Khan
09-16-2007, 04:02 PM
I beat you to it a few posts back, sir.
Except for the bit about it being in sixth place.
We all know it's running on fumes right now, but the question is how much further it can go before the engine stalls completely.

I think it could make $1-2 million next weekend, with RE3 drawing in the majority of the audience.


Here's hoping it does beat H20. It won't matter in the long run if it does or doesn't, but this seems like the only HalloweeN movie which will probably make this much (atleast for the time being, considering this is the big remake of such a classic).

It likely won't beat H20 in adjusted dollars. ;)

TOO MUCH BS
09-16-2007, 04:02 PM
Here's hoping it does beat H20. It won't matter in the long run if it does or doesn't, but this seems like the only HalloweeN movie which will probably make this much (atleast for the time being, considering this is the big remake of such a classic).

i'll toast and :drink: dude!

Todd
09-16-2007, 04:36 PM
I think it could make $1-2 million next weekend, with RE3 drawing in the majority of the audience.

If it just makes three million total next week and then another million the week after, it should come close to matching and possibly passing H20.



It likely won't beat H20 in adjusted dollars. ;)
There are other things to factor in, though.
Bootlegging wasn't as widespread back then as it is now, nor was it as easy to obtain a pirated copy. I also don't think movies went from the theater to the dvd rack as quickly then as they do now. I might be wrong about that, though.

Khan
09-16-2007, 04:41 PM
If it just makes three million total next week and then another million the week after, it should come close to matching and possibly passing H20.

Indeed.



There are other things to factor in, though.
Bootlegging wasn't as widespread back then as it is now, nor was it as easy to obtain a pirated copy. I also don't think movies went from the theater to the dvd rack as quickly then as they do now. I might be wrong about that, though.

What you say is pretty accurate.

I have read that movies used to get theatrical runs of a year if you go back to the 70's (someone correct me if I am wrong).

Todd
09-16-2007, 05:05 PM
What you say is pretty accurate.

I have read that movies used to get theatrical runs of a year if you go back to the 70's (someone correct me if I am wrong).
That's true.
As an old geezer (at least when compared to most posters on this board), I can confirm that in the seventies, movies stayed in theaters for many months. Back then, if you wanted to see a movie, you had to go to the theater or wait a few years before it ended up hacked all to pieces on television. VCR's were luxury items back then and not in widespread use.

Psych0ticNemes1s
09-17-2007, 06:11 AM
It's going to be a wire job.
If it really is over the fifty one million mark, then it needs another five million to top H20. Five million might not seem much, but at this point in the game, it is.

According to what I have read, $55 million in 1998 is equal to about $80 million now. There is no way this movie makes more than H20 accordingly.

Jeanette
09-17-2007, 06:19 AM
Just checked the box office report.

Halloween MGM Distribution Company $5,011,000 $51,264,000 3 3051

Jeanette
09-17-2007, 06:21 AM
That's true.
As an old geezer (at least when compared to most posters on this board), I can confirm that in the seventies, movies stayed in theaters for many months. Back then, if you wanted to see a movie, you had to go to the theater or wait a few years before it ended up hacked all to pieces on television. VCR's were luxury items back then and not in widespread use.


I hear you! Things just were on a much slower pace back in the day. My family didn't get a vcr until 1989 lol Needless to say HBO was where I got to see all my horror faves or Tv versions on Shocktoberfest.

nwiser
09-17-2007, 07:23 AM
According to what I have read, $55 million in 1998 is equal to about $80 million now. There is no way this movie makes more than H20 accordingly.

Are there sites out there that actually list ticket sale numbers as opposed to dollar values for the box office take?

I'm assuming the older films' box office takes also include showings at the $1/cheapie theaters...so a ticket sales number might make it easier to gauge the performace of this movie in comparison to other Halloween films without having to do dollar conversions/adjustments.

Khan
09-17-2007, 08:42 AM
Are there sites out there that actually list ticket sale numbers as opposed to dollar values for the box office take?

I'm assuming the older films' box office takes also include showings at the $1/cheapie theaters...so a ticket sales number might make it easier to gauge the performace of this movie in comparison to other Halloween films without having to do dollar conversions/adjustments.

Box Office Mojo allows you to adjust any page to current dollars.

Franchise
09-17-2007, 09:28 AM
I hear you! Things just were on a much slower pace back in the day. My family didn't get a vcr until 1989 lol Needless to say HBO was where I got to see all my horror faves or Tv versions on Shocktoberfest.

You're showing your age, girl!

Jeanette
09-17-2007, 09:33 AM
You're showing your age, girl!

Sad but true :bigeyes:

Franchise
09-17-2007, 09:35 AM
I remember the first VCR we got was a Beta in like 1982. Then it went belly up and we got a VHS and everything was history. I'm lucky since I've been fairly well to do for a long time.

Khan
09-17-2007, 10:24 AM
I asked my mom about the first VCR they had, and it was soon after I was born (1982), as they watched camcorder tapes on it.

Dr_Loomis02
09-17-2007, 10:25 AM
Sad but true :bigeyes:

A great Metallica song.

Psych0ticNemes1s
09-17-2007, 10:26 AM
Before VCRs, how did people watch movies at home? Projectors?

Psych0ticNemes1s
09-17-2007, 10:26 AM
A great Metallica song.

One of my favorite Metallica tunes indeed.

Franchise
09-17-2007, 10:33 AM
Before VCRs, how did people watch movies at home? Projectors?

8mm projectors is correct. Movies were truncated so that you could watch them in like 20 minutes, I believe. I never had one considering I was born in 77.

Psych0ticNemes1s
09-17-2007, 10:48 AM
8mm projectors is correct. Movies were truncated so that you could watch them in like 20 minutes, I believe. I never had one considering I was born in 77.

Thanks for the info.

Wow, 20 minute movies? That would suck.

Franchise
09-17-2007, 10:49 AM
When I first got into collecting, I bought Phantasm that way. I figured I could get a projector, but I did fail.

horrornut
09-17-2007, 11:29 AM
Back when I was a kid (250 years ago) you could buy 8mm and 16mm sound condensed versions of popular horror movies and run 'em at home. Castle Films put out the collectors editions and sold for $12.95 to as much as $39.95. They were really cut down versions but told the whole story. I've still got some here at the house from that many years ago.
As soon as the movie theatres go 100% digital projection, everyone can buy 35mm equipment for pennies on the dollar. For example, there are 35mm prints of H4 and H5 on Ebay today. It will be cheaper to do 35mm than having to buy a really good DLP projector.

Myers Insurance
09-17-2007, 11:35 AM
It likely won't beat H20 in adjusted dollars. ;)

That's assuming everyone who saw H20 in 1998 saw it today, when tickets are two dollars more. The problem with inflation in movies is that not everyone will see the same movie if it costs more.

Todd
09-17-2007, 12:46 PM
That's assuming everyone who saw H20 in 1998 saw it today, when tickets are two dollars more. The problem with inflation in movies is that not everyone will see the same movie if it costs more.
Yes, and as I pointed out before, it wasn't as easy to get bootlegged copies of movies still in theaters back in '98. I don't think movies went from the theater to dvd as quickly then as they do now, either.
When it comes to adjusted gross box office, we could also say that if this new movie cost less to get a ticket for, maybe more people would have gone to see it than did. Maybe if people didn't think the dvd would be coming out as soon as they do nowadays, more would have gone to the theater rather than wait. Maybe if it wasn't as easy to get a copy of a movie while it's still in theaters, more people would have gone to see it, too.

shoe1985
09-17-2007, 12:47 PM
That's assuming everyone who saw H20 in 1998 saw it today, when tickets are two dollars more. The problem with inflation in movies is that not everyone will see the same movie if it costs more.

You know, a lot of people blame the pricing for less people going to the theater, but I blame the technology. People are building home theaters in their houses now. So, why not just wait about 3-5 months for a movie and watch it in the comfort of your home without all of the interference from other people. I know of people who won't go to the theater and wait for the DVD because they have the money to build these things.

It is hard to compare movie's audiences today and in the past. Technology wasn't as great then as it is now. Like I said before, it is hard for a movie to bomb today then in the past.

Patrick1679
09-17-2007, 02:17 PM
That's assuming everyone who saw H20 in 1998 saw it today, when tickets are two dollars more. The problem with inflation in movies is that not everyone will see the same movie if it costs more.

That may be true...to a lesser extent. But let's face it. H20 was "superhyped" due to the return of Jamie Lee Curtis. That's pure evidence that alot of people didn't like H4-H6. Once JLC was onboard people thought they were going to see Halloween again. But what they got was a turkey.

That's why the box office of movie "series" go down hill. It's because it was the PREVIOUS movie that they didn't like. Not necessarily the current one.

If this movie didn't do as well as people thought it's because of the previous sequels...they were TURKEYS!:vomit:

TOO MUCH BS
09-17-2007, 02:26 PM
^amen brother! chest bumps you

Khan
09-17-2007, 02:30 PM
That may be true...to a lesser extent. But let's face it. H20 was "superhyped" due to the return of Jamie Lee Curtis. That's pure evidence that alot of people didn't like H4-H6. Once JLC was onboard people thought they were going to see Halloween again. But what they got was a turkey.

That's why the box office of movie "series" go down hill. It's because it was the PREVIOUS movie that they didn't like. Not necessarily the current one.

If this movie didn't do as well as people thought it's because of the previous sequels...they were TURKEYS!:vomit:

Some people wouldn't call it a turkey.

FooFighters
09-17-2007, 02:45 PM
Domestic Total as of Sep. 16, 2007: $51,120,587

TOO MUCH BS
09-17-2007, 02:48 PM
Domestic Total as of Sep. 16, 2007: $51,120,587

and how much did H20 make?

FooFighters
09-17-2007, 02:54 PM
H20 made $55,041,738

TOO MUCH BS
09-17-2007, 02:56 PM
ooooo dang almost there...but it'll be hard now since the film is declining

FooFighters
09-17-2007, 02:59 PM
It'll definitely make more than H2O.

TOO MUCH BS
09-17-2007, 03:01 PM
would be nice since 16 dollars (2 viewings) are mine lol i wasn't able to watch H20 in theaters i was too young at the time dang it pus i like RZH more then i did H20

FooFighters
09-17-2007, 03:04 PM
9 dollars of it was mine, but I deserve it back because RZH was horrible.

TOO MUCH BS
09-17-2007, 03:10 PM
lol to each his own

Femanizer
09-17-2007, 03:25 PM
9 dollars of it was mine, but I deserve it back because RZH was horrible.

You paid to watch the film, which you got to do.

Khan
09-17-2007, 03:26 PM
I didn't mind losing a few bucks over a bad movie.

FooFighters
09-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Yes I paid to watch the film. Anything else would be illegal.;)

Femanizer
09-17-2007, 03:29 PM
wasn't a question it was a statement...people act like they should get their money back if they do not enjoy a movie. You pay simply to watch it, if you get to do that then you get what you paid for.

FooFighters
09-17-2007, 03:36 PM
I know it wasn't a question, I was "stating" that I payed for it. And dude, it's a joke when people say they should get their money back. Most of the time it is just a way of saying how bad it is, which it was.

Femanizer
09-17-2007, 03:37 PM
IT IS NOT A JOKE GODDAMN IT!!!!

haha ok I was kidding, but yeah I was just stating not for you specifically that y'all got your money's worth haha

FooFighters
09-17-2007, 03:41 PM
I got ya.:)

TOO MUCH BS
09-17-2007, 03:57 PM
well i enjoyed it and i am one of the few...the proud...the people who liked RZH lol

Patrick1679
09-17-2007, 03:58 PM
Some people wouldn't call it a turkey.

You're right...some people won't. But unfortunately alot of people were disappointed...and rightly so.

Like with ALL the sequels there are some good moments in the movie. But overall it was a disappointment to alot of people. Sure alot of people went to see it but did alot of people like it? I would say no. H Ressurection would have done better it's first weekend...before word of mouth would have killed it. So now they won't see another Halloween movie because they're soured with the whole thing. This happens with EVERY movie series. In all honesty. How many times can you extend a story? Sooner or later you'll misstep and the public will let you know...by not showing up!

Same thing happened with Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street. It will happen with SAW and Resident Evil. As well as all the other movie franchises. Comedy is no exception. Look at Police Academy? RUSH HOUR? If SAW 4 does well it means the majority of people liked SAW 3. It DOESN'T mean they liked SAW 4.

We'll see how RZ's Halloween fate will be...when they make a sequel. If that sequel bombs. It's a result of people NOT liking RZ's Halloween. Until then. It's up for grabs.:dunno:

Khan
09-17-2007, 04:08 PM
Yeah, the curiosity money is a pretty big amount of the total box office take.

Patrick1679
09-17-2007, 04:15 PM
Hype a new HALLOWEEN movie up as a remake...you'll get some people to bite. But how many like it? We shall see. I personally liked it alot.

I'm comparing this movie's success to the latest horror craze like TCM, SAW, etc which made more money than this movie. So far it's a disappointment. But maybe it might get some legs for October?

If SAW is making $100 million then there is CERTAINLY a market out there for horror. So far Halloween made half.:dunno: :mecry:

Khan
09-17-2007, 04:30 PM
There won't be October legs.

It will be gone from theaters by then.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

The weekend actual for Halloween Was $4.8 million.

Todd
09-17-2007, 05:04 PM
well i enjoyed it and i am one of the few...the proud...the people who liked RZH lol
We're not one of the few, dude.
There are plenty of people who liked the movie.
I'd say a lot more than didn't.

YourAverageJoe
09-17-2007, 05:34 PM
When Halloween: Resurrection came out in July 2002, it was out of theaters by mid August, but they brought it back into a couple of my local theaters for October 30th and October 31st showings. I'd love to see that happen for Rob Zombie's Halloween. I'd check it out.

Khan
09-17-2007, 05:50 PM
They will need the theaters for Saw 4.

Twin Crystal
09-17-2007, 07:44 PM
I think if the were to rerelese it with ucut scenes in October that would push it over H2O.

wyatt s
09-17-2007, 07:58 PM
Why would they bother re-releasing it in the end of october? They're probably not going to compete at all with Saw IV, and I don't think they really care whether or not it makes it past H20.

DeanCorso
09-17-2007, 08:59 PM
We're not one of the few, dude.
There are plenty of people who liked the movie.
I'd say a lot more than didn't.

and theres plenty of people that didnt like it.

Todd
09-18-2007, 10:44 AM
and theres plenty of people that didnt like it.
Thanks for the heads up.....
I know there were people who didn't like it.
This board was inundated by them for awhile.
From what I've seen and heard, though, I'm standing by my opinion that there were a lot more people who liked it than who despised it.

MischievousSpirit
09-18-2007, 11:37 AM
Half like it. Half hate it. :yar:

Silverpsycho
09-18-2007, 11:59 AM
When Halloween: Resurrection came out in July 2002, it was out of theaters by mid August, but they brought it back into a couple of my local theaters for October 30th and October 31st showings. I'd love to see that happen for Rob Zombie's Halloween. I'd check it out.
That would be nice and I could see this happening at my local theatre since it has 16 auditoriums. One can only hope. :)

Patrick1679
09-18-2007, 12:13 PM
Thanks for the heads up.....
I know there were people who didn't like it.
This board was inundated by them for awhile.
From what I've seen and heard, though, I'm standing by my opinion that there were a lot more people who liked it than who despised it.

I agree. On this board? I don't know. It's close. But one thing's for sure everyone I know that has seen it enjoyed it. :scratchhead:

Reobeem
09-18-2007, 12:43 PM
is anyone afraid this will surrpass H20

Khan
09-18-2007, 12:44 PM
I think if the were to rerelese it with ucut scenes in October that would push it over H2O.

They won't do that.


I agree. On this board? I don't know. It's close. But one thing's for sure everyone I know that has seen it enjoyed it.

Look a little harder.

I am on three main message boards, and people are very divided about the movie.

Patrick1679
09-18-2007, 01:01 PM
The people i've talked to are just the average Joe. There not big on horror. They're the average moviegoer. So they don't break the movie down like we do. I'm sure the boards you're checking out are people who are into horror films. They, like us, will break down and analyze a film and compare it to what they believe it should be, based on the original. But the average moviegoer doesn't give a crap about Michael's height or if he's "pure evil" or not. They're going because they want to be entertained. RZ's Halloween is DEFINITELY entertaining and fun to watch. Sometimes we over analyze a film to the point of taking the joy out of watching a movie. That's why we're fanatics! :yeah:

Todd 78
09-18-2007, 01:22 PM
They won't do that.



Look a little harder.

I am on three main message boards, and people are very divided about the movie.


Messageboards don't represent the general movie goer. I have said it before , and I shall sayit again... Messageboards are where the fanboys go and have their period.

Everyone I know liked it.

Patrick1679
09-18-2007, 01:25 PM
Messageboards don't represent the general movie goer. I have said it before , and I shall sayit again... Messageboards are where the fanboys go and have their period.

Everyone I know liked it.

Agreed! :rock:

Khan
09-18-2007, 01:27 PM
My dad liked it, but before seeing it, he didn't know who Michael Myers was or that there was an original with seven sequels, so you have a point, but you can't just dismiss all opinions on message boards.

Todd
09-18-2007, 02:29 PM
Messageboards don't represent the general movie goer. I have said it before , and I shall sayit again... Messageboards are where the fanboys go and have their period.
Uh, does that mean that it's our time of the month?
We're posting on a message board, after all.....
(Sorry, I just had to).
I agree for the most part, though.
Everyone I talked to liked it.
Some enjoyed it more than others, of course, but no one I know seemed to dislike it.

The people i've talked to are just the average Joe. There not big on horror. They're the average moviegoer. So they don't break the movie down like we do. I'm sure the boards you're checking out are people who are into horror films. They, like us, will break down and analyze a film and compare it to what they believe it should be, based on the original. But the average moviegoer doesn't give a crap about Michael's height or if he's "pure evil" or not. They're going because they want to be entertained. RZ's Halloween is DEFINITELY entertaining and fun to watch. Sometimes we over analyze a film to the point of taking the joy out of watching a movie. That's why we're fanatics! :yeah:
Very well stated.

The Dark Shape
09-18-2007, 03:08 PM
Isn't it amazing that our friends all seem to mirror our opinions?

DeanCorso
09-18-2007, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the heads up.....
I know there were people who didn't like it.
This board was inundated by them for awhile.
From what I've seen and heard, though, I'm standing by my opinion that there were a lot more people who liked it than who despised it.



yea i know...you keep saying that more people liked it then those that didnt.....i still think its 50/50.

Khan
09-18-2007, 03:26 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2007-09-17&p=.htm

The total for yesterday is $350,157.

Femanizer
09-18-2007, 03:44 PM
or for yesterday...

The Frightmaster
09-18-2007, 03:52 PM
yea i know...you keep saying that more people liked it then those that didnt.....i still think its 50/50.

Agreed. There's a lot of people who liked it and a lot of people who hated it. :nodsmile:

Khan
09-18-2007, 03:56 PM
or for yesterday...

My bad.

Todd 78
09-18-2007, 04:06 PM
Uh, does that mean that it's our time of the month?
We're posting on a message board, after all.....
(Sorry, I just had to).
I agree for the most part, though.
Everyone I talked to liked it.
Some enjoyed it more than others, of course, but no one I know seemed to dislike it.


Very well stated.

Oh this board had its peiod on August 30 .

MischievousSpirit
09-18-2007, 04:23 PM
Oh this board had its peiod on August 30 .

And now it's in a state of PMS.

Laow-Z
09-18-2007, 04:24 PM
And now it's in a state of PMS.

Post MS that is:)

Khan
09-18-2007, 04:25 PM
I have hot flashes.

Todd
09-18-2007, 04:25 PM
yea i know...you keep saying that more people liked it then those that didnt.....i still think its 50/50.
I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen and heard.
I'm not saying I took a nation wide poll.

DeanCorso
09-18-2007, 04:42 PM
I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen and heard.
I'm not saying I took a nation wide poll.

the same here.

Femanizer
09-18-2007, 04:49 PM
A's: 164 43.5%
B's: 98 26.0%
C's: 41 10.9%
D's: 19 5.0%
F's: 55 14.6%

Box office mojo scores...looks more than 50/50 to me, looks more like 70/30 to me and that's only counting the A's and B's as good.

This post is opinion btw.

Todd
09-18-2007, 04:49 PM
the same here.
Fine, but I've never claimed that my opinion was a fact set in stone.

FooFighters
09-18-2007, 06:00 PM
Domestic Total as of Sep. 17, 2007: $51,470,744

DeanCorso
09-18-2007, 06:34 PM
Fine, but I've never claimed that my opinion was a fact set in stone.

i never did also.



A's: 164 43.5%
B's: 98 26.0%
C's: 41 10.9%
D's: 19 5.0%
F's: 55 14.6%

Box office mojo scores...looks more than 50/50 to me, looks more like 70/30 to me and that's only counting the A's and B's as good.

This post is opinion btw.

thats just one website...and looking at it theres lots of F's

WhiteZombie
09-18-2007, 06:44 PM
Domestic Total as of Sep. 17, 2007: $51,470,744

Shit thats good. I dont doubt a sequel at some point. But I'd want Rob to come back.

Femanizer
09-18-2007, 06:45 PM
thats just one website...and looking at it theres lots of F's

And a lot of A's and B's...which was my point...and I do believe I labeled it as one websites poll. But if you wanna continue to ignore the obvious that's your business.

DeanCorso
09-18-2007, 06:59 PM
And a lot of A's and B's...which was my point...and I do believe I labeled it as one websites poll. But if you wanna continue to ignore the obvious that's your business.

i'm not ignoring it...you could take another website poll it would most likely be 50/50.

Khan
09-18-2007, 07:02 PM
Shit thats good. I dont doubt a sequel at some point. But I'd want Rob to come back.

He said he isn't, and he seems pretty serious.

RazorBlade101
09-18-2007, 07:10 PM
people who never seen the other halloweens before ... LOVE the new movie ... Half of the hardcore Halloween fans hate it, and the other half love it ... Then there a mix of the two groups who thinks its allright.

So more people like it, then hate it ... In my opinion.

Where I live ... The bootleg is being passed around like crazy. And I get mad at people who watch it and havent watched the real version, because the bootleg is Ass ... Its the workprint.

MichaelJrdnMyrs
09-18-2007, 07:13 PM
He said he isn't, and he seems pretty serious.


I don't think they would want him back, really. This movie was quite the polarizing one. A great deal of the audience wouldn't be interested in seeing another Zombie Halloween.

They'll try to pull back more of the fanbase back into the fold with a new director. They'll hype the next movie as a return to suspense. They'll probably get Danielle Harris to star.

The Kilted One
09-19-2007, 07:03 AM
Half of the hardcore Halloween fans hate it, and the other half love it ... Then there a mix of the two groups who thinks its allright.

That's known as the Third Half (formerly the Shit Mask Brotherhood), my friend, and it's been around since long before the film was released. ;)

I think I predicted that this thing would make between 55 and 60 for it's domestic release. We should be getting pretty close to that.

Khan
09-19-2007, 07:16 AM
It is making half of the daily box office that it was last week, but that is to be expected.

temp19
09-19-2007, 08:23 AM
i'm not ignoring it...you could take another website poll it would most likely be 50/50.
Well then put your money where your mouoth is and find this conspiciously absent, strictly 50/50 poll. The poll he posted was a respected box office poll which usually gives a good example of the perception of the film but if you think you can find a totally 50/50 poll then more power to you if not then stop acting like there has to be a 50/50 poll out there and admit the film ihas a 70/30 split.

mcilroga
09-19-2007, 11:08 AM
i'm not ignoring it...you could take another website poll it would most likely be 50/50.

Well, okay, here's IMDb's:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0373883/ratings

Then there's Yahoo! Movies':

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809784517/info

Then there's Movies.com', Fan Grade:

http://movies.go.com/halloween/d889658/horror

None strictly 50/50 or even close, more like 60/40 or 70/30.

Mechanix1992
09-19-2007, 11:36 AM
Bootlegging!!! Bootlegging!!!!

Franchise
09-19-2007, 11:39 AM
Don't discuss bootlegging here. Do it again and you get a warning.

Khan
09-19-2007, 01:05 PM
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2007-09-18&p=.htm

$334,966

DeanCorso
09-19-2007, 01:28 PM
Well then put your money where your mouoth is and find this conspiciously absent, strictly 50/50 poll. The poll he posted was a respected box office poll which usually gives a good example of the perception of the film but if you think you can find a totally 50/50 poll then more power to you if not then stop acting like there has to be a 50/50 poll out there and admit the film ihas a 70/30 split.

first of all i NEVER said it was a fact its 50/50, its looks more 50/50 (read carefully before saying anything)

wanna play the fucking poll game here : (from Bloody Disgusting)

View Poll Results: Thoughts on Halloween (2007)
It's Great! 63 29.72%
It's Shit! 85 40.09%

"its alright" had 30% and i dont take it into consideration the "alright" group because some of them could see the movie a second time and think the movie is crap or they like it more the second viewing...so it could go other way.

i take also the critics reviews (maybe some of you dont when you said its 70/30) and Most of them Hated the movie.

but what the hell i dont know shit you're right..its 70/30 the critics dont count.

end of discussion has far i'm concerned.



Well, okay, here's IMDb's:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0373883/ratings

Then there's Yahoo! Movies':

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809784517/info

Then there's Movies.com', Fan Grade:

http://movies.go.com/halloween/d889658/horror

None strictly 50/50 or even close, more like 60/40 or 70/30.

Well congratulations...i bet you spent many hours to find those. and only one of them include critics ratings.

TOO MUCH BS
09-19-2007, 02:01 PM
alot of people don't care about critics bro

Khan
09-19-2007, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't trust B-D as a credible source, since they HATE Zombie there.

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 02:04 PM
Domestic Total as of Sep. 18, 2007: $51,805,710

Myers Insurance
09-19-2007, 02:07 PM
*hopes it can pass H20 before it ends*

Khan
09-19-2007, 02:11 PM
*hopes it can pass H20 before it ends*

It will easily do that.

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 02:12 PM
Yeah a few people want it to, that's why I update often.

Todd
09-19-2007, 02:54 PM
It looks like this movie is set to barely pass H20's box office total.
That may be an arbitrary thing to point at, but it is satisfying to know that people who wanted it to tank didn't get their way.

Khan
09-19-2007, 02:59 PM
Well, there is still the overseas box office.

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 03:03 PM
It looks like this movie is set to barely pass H20's box office total.
That may be an arbitrary thing to point at, but it is satisfying to know that people who wanted it to tank didn't get their way.

Weren't you in the middle of a bet over the box office?

Todd
09-19-2007, 03:29 PM
Weren't you in the middle of a bet over the box office?
It wasn't really a bet.
Someone posted a quote from a site that predicts box office which said that RZ's Halloween would only make about fifteen million total. I said that if it only made that much, I would eat the socks I was wearing without washing them. It wasn't much of a risk on my part because there was no way this movie was going to bomb that badly. Somebody quoted my post in their sig so that my feet would be held to the fire.

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 03:30 PM
Haha very good. Glad to hear you didn't eat dirty socks.:D

Todd
09-19-2007, 05:04 PM
Anybody think this movie hits the fifty five million mark this weekend?

MischievousSpirit
09-19-2007, 05:06 PM
Anybody think this movie hits the fifty five million mark this weekend?

We should all go see it again so it does! :jump:

Todd
09-19-2007, 05:10 PM
We should all go see it again so it does! :jump:
It should have almost 53 million by friday, so it would only need about three million this weekend to pass H20. It will be close, to say the least. If it doesn't hit the mark this weekend, it surely will do so by the end of next week.

Ultimate Killer
09-19-2007, 05:21 PM
It should finish with close to 60 mill.

Khan
09-19-2007, 06:11 PM
Anybody think this movie hits the fifty five million mark this weekend?

Given the current crop of movies, I think it could take in $1-3 million.

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 06:29 PM
I think that it will barely get passed H20. At least it has already passed the original.(the only thing it did right)

Khan
09-19-2007, 06:45 PM
Not in adjusted dollars. ;)

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 06:47 PM
Could you please explain that.:)

MischievousSpirit
09-19-2007, 06:57 PM
Could you please explain that.:)

Adjusted dollars for inflation.

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 06:59 PM
I see thanks.:D

Khan
09-19-2007, 07:05 PM
Halloween made somewhere in the neighborhood of $147 million when adjusted if my memory is correct.

FooFighters
09-19-2007, 07:08 PM
Wow, that is a big difference, thanks for the info!

Todd
09-19-2007, 07:11 PM
There are a lot of factors that need to be considered when comparing box office totals of movies released nearly thirty years apart. Inflation is just one of them. There's also the widespread use of dvd players and the relatively quick theater to dvd turnaround. Plus, movies stayed in the theater for months back in '78. At that time, if you wanted to see a movie, you pretty much had to go to the theater. That's obviously not the case anymore. You can just wait a few months and watch it on a high definition home video system. And while the price of a movie ticket has increased a lot since the original Halloween was released, so have average incomes.

Pasabi
09-19-2007, 11:37 PM
Does anyone think that the Studio is a little bummed out at the box office considering how much the SAW films make per film, Grudge 2 and TCM remake? It's been close to 5 years since the last film debuted. And was filled with a huge amount of advertising and after 3 weeks is still around 30 million away from SAW? I thought this film would make approx 40 to 45 million and it has already beaten that. But compared to the TCM which is the closet franchise of a remake you can put it against. I don't think there to happy at it. I think bootlegging hurt the overall take like it did with Hostel 2. I saw this about two weeks ago on a weekend and the movie had hardly anyone there. And was suprised at it's second week take in considering all the hype around 3:10 to yuma was getting as a possible Oscar nod.

Psych0ticNemes1s
09-20-2007, 04:51 AM
There are a lot of factors that need to be considered when comparing box office totals of movies released nearly thirty years apart. Inflation is just one of them. There's also the widespread use of dvd players and the relatively quick theater to dvd turnaround. Plus, movies stayed in the theater for months back in '78. At that time, if you wanted to see a movie, you pretty much had to go to the theater. That's obviously not the case anymore. You can just wait a few months and watch it on a high definition home video system. And while the price of a movie ticket has increased a lot since the original Halloween was released, so have average incomes.

Even with that considered, I don't think that makes up for a $25 million dollar loss. In my opinion, with all things considered, H20's $80 million in adjusted dollars is still considerably more than this film will make.

Todd
09-20-2007, 06:39 AM
Even with that considered, I don't think that makes up for a $25 million dollar loss. In my opinion, with all things considered, H20's $80 million in adjusted dollars is still considerably more than this film will make.
I was comparing the original Halloweens box office total to the remakes.

Worthystevens
09-20-2007, 06:50 AM
Even with that considered, I don't think that makes up for a $25 million dollar loss. In my opinion, with all things considered, H20's $80 million in adjusted dollars is still considerably more than this film will make.

But would H2O have made $80 million if released today? In all honesty, I don't think it would. Movies, especially horror movies, are usually alot more frontloaded than they were 9 years ago.

Silverpsycho
09-20-2007, 11:37 AM
Well my local theatre will no longer have HalloweeN playing there as of tomorrow. It currently has four showtimes so I am surprised it will be totally gone tomorrow but it is making way for nine new films being released. I had no idea that many were coming out tomorrow. It surprises me that HalloweeN is gone before Mr.Bean's Holiday and Stardust...blech. :p Also the newly released Sydney White looks like crap! How dare Amanda Bynes take the place of HalloweeN! Oh well, at least the theatre knows it's crap and barely gave it any showtimes because it will be in and out so fast.

Khan
09-20-2007, 11:51 AM
What size city are you in?

I just checked and Halloween was upped to an 18A here.

FooFighters
09-20-2007, 12:17 PM
Domestic Total as of Sep. 18, 2007: $51,805,710

Silverpsycho
09-20-2007, 12:54 PM
What size city are you in?

I just checked and Halloween was upped to an 18A here.
Oh not all that big at all, as I'm in a suburbs sort of area where nothing happens. So all this was pretty much expected to happen. I'm just surprised it's going from four showtimes to absolutely none at all. It usually dwindles down to two or one before totally leaving.

There are still two theatres that are somewhat close (but I would never drive that far to go to) playing HalloweeN. One is playing it just once a day, while the other is still going strong with four showings through the weekend at least.

Khan
09-20-2007, 02:18 PM
$303,487

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

Theater count cuts:

2,338 -713

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2007&wk=38&p=.htm

Myers Insurance
09-20-2007, 03:15 PM
It's apparently at $52,109,197 now.

Also, the thing with adjusted/inflated dollars is that you're assuming every person from then will see it now. Back in '98, and especially in '78, it took a while for movies to come to DVD. Nowadays, it's two or three months and it's ready for release.

FooFighters
09-20-2007, 04:11 PM
Domestic Total as of Sep. 19, 2007: $52,109,197

Todd
09-20-2007, 04:25 PM
I hope it makes two million this weekend.
I was hoping it would end up with sixty million, domestic.
I don't think that's going to happen, though.

Khan
09-20-2007, 04:29 PM
Yeah, the huge cut in theaters, coupled with Resident Evil taking horror spot this weekend, will make that hard.

FooFighters
09-20-2007, 04:30 PM
I will probably make a little under two million this week. I highly doubt that it will make another 8 million though.

FooFighters
09-20-2007, 04:31 PM
Yeah, the huge cut in theaters, coupled with Resident Evil taking horror spot this weekend, will make that hard.

I am going to see that tommorow! Resident Evil is on Sci-Fi right now.

Khan
09-20-2007, 04:34 PM
I am seeing it Saturday afternoon.


It will probably make a little under two million this week. I highly doubt that it will make another 8 million though.

Two million sounds about right, and the daily box office for next week will be roughly half of what it is making now.

Todd
09-20-2007, 04:35 PM
I'm still thinking it will get past H20's box office total, but it will be a squeaker.

FooFighters
09-20-2007, 04:40 PM
Yes it will be a "squeaker":bastard:

Khan
09-20-2007, 04:42 PM
I'm still thinking it will get past H20's box office total, but it will be a squeaker.

I agree.

PG Soul
09-21-2007, 12:46 PM
It comes out here in the UK on Sept 28th, just seen the trailer on ITV4 during the break of 'The Contender: The Story So Far'.

I think it will make a tidy little number over here, since the pound is worth double the dollar at the moment, so that means more benjamins for Messrs Akkad, Cummings, Gould and Brothers Weintstein.

Todd
09-21-2007, 03:21 PM
It's total box office right now is at $52,422,767.
If it makes two million total this weekend, that puts it about a million shy of H20's mark. Surely it can hit that in another week.

ten31
09-21-2007, 03:35 PM
I can't see why it wouldn't make two to three million this weekend. The flicks coming out are still pretty weak. Good Luck Chuck will take number 1 but other than that I don't see much.

Khan
09-21-2007, 03:43 PM
"Weak" as they may be, the sizable theater cuts (1000+) and new releases (as well as last weeks) will have an impact on its box office.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2007&wk=38&p=.htm

Quiet, Snooky.
09-22-2007, 09:25 AM
Rob Zombie's Halloween looks to have gotten kneecapped by Resident Evil 3 on Friday. It isn't in Showbizdata's top ten. Good riddance, I say.

Khan
09-22-2007, 09:36 AM
It was expected.

Myers Insurance
09-22-2007, 09:52 AM
At least it's having a good run for a horror film.

RazorBlade101
09-22-2007, 11:00 AM
Of course Resident Evil is gunna do better this weekend ...

Everyones already saw Halloween.

Worthystevens
09-22-2007, 11:06 AM
Rob Zombie's Halloween looks to have gotten kneecapped by Resident Evil 3 on Friday. It isn't in Showbizdata's top ten. Good riddance, I say.

Sorry to burst your bubble. It's still in the top 10 for now - unless Across the Universe overtakes it.

Friday's take was $650k, down 57%.

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

Todd
09-22-2007, 01:40 PM
Rob Zombie's Halloween looks to have gotten kneecapped by Resident Evil 3 on Friday. It isn't in Showbizdata's top ten. Good riddance, I say.
Kneecapped?
RZ's Halloween has been in theaters for several weeks while Resident Evil is debuting.
That's hardly what I'd call a fair fight.

PG Soul
09-22-2007, 02:12 PM
It's made it's money anyway. The movie makers get a good pay day and Michael Myers finally calls it a day, taa-daa the curtains finally come down. Thanks for memories Mike!