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scoob
09-09-2007, 08:07 PM
What would you have preffered or prefer Michael's early days to have been like?
Abused and with a trashy family as Rob Zombie portrays or something other? Maybe a normal kid that just turned on Halloween night?

Patrick1679
09-09-2007, 08:15 PM
It would've been cool to see Michael come from a normal family. But it wasn't that big of a deal for me to see him come from a trashy family. I can go either way.

A normal family would have been good. It's also realistic. I mean look at the 2 scumbags from Columbine. They came from a normal family.

scoob
09-09-2007, 08:20 PM
I have always thought that Michael came up from a reasonable family, in a small town like Haddonfield that had some sort of standards... Now its been a beer fest country bumpkin outfit and now a sleaze ball circus.
It just seems more creepy and odd that a 6 year old would just kill his sister on Halloween of all nights. Cant really beat that feeling of the original and not knowing anything about his past helped a lot.

TheShape411
09-09-2007, 08:28 PM
Normal family is much more creepy and terrifying to me.

Him come from a broken home, being abused and such is soooo cliched and boring.

4BarrelHemi
09-09-2007, 09:10 PM
Normal family for me alot scarier.

MichaelJrdnMyrs
09-09-2007, 09:43 PM
Effed up homelife. We've seen the normal done before.

While Carpenter did the "pure evil" thing very well, it's kind of a silly concept.

XBlackxShadeX
09-10-2007, 02:33 AM
Zombies version...its more real..and now theres a little more understanding in it.

o.n.i.x
09-10-2007, 03:35 AM
I vote normal. That would've been scary as opposed to the cliché stuff.

The abusive background could've worked if it wasn't so over the top - it was a bit unrealistic. It reminded me more of a TCM movie rather than a Halloween.

Todd
09-10-2007, 06:37 AM
If we want a Michael that is pure evil, then the backstory should have shown him coming from a loving, middle class family who he ends up killing anyway.
That's not how Zombie wanted to portray it, though.

renee30152
09-10-2007, 08:14 AM
I agree. If he came from a normal family and a good childhood it is a lot creeper and scary.

ragethorn
09-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Even though I chose normal childhood, get one thing straight.

RZ didn't explain why Michael is the way he is. He only showed Michael sliding downwards. The movie opens with him killing his pet rat. It implies that it's because of a bad childhood but doesn't exactly show that as a fact.

I didn't mind this part of the movie because of that. There is nowhere in RZ's Halloween that says Michael Myers is evil because his stepfather is a douchebag. It could be because of the environment he grew up in or maybe not.

However, the way the original Halloween opens up is so much better with Michael just killing his sister off the bat. He looks normal, we as the audience assume he was normal beforehand and we get a feel for just how serious of a crime this is and it's extra creepy when he had a normal childhood because we figure he's born this way. Makes it creepier.

RazorBlade101
09-10-2007, 01:24 PM
Abused Childhood makes more sence ... But theres no proof that in the original Halloween that he wasnt abused ... So ...

Either way,the kid was born crazy ... Mentally ill ... Killing animals and people at that age with bats, sticks, knives ... That isn't normal ... It wouldnt have mattered how he was raised.

RazorBlade101
09-10-2007, 01:26 PM
This movie didnt really show WHY he became a killer ... It just showed how he was raised ... Your the one that has to figure out WHY HE DID IT ... Like when he was sitting out in front of his house, you have no clue whats going through the mind of Michael ... But killing animals and a bully already proved he's pyscho.

Silverpsycho
09-10-2007, 01:26 PM
Even though Zombie's take on Michael's poor childhood was interesting, I prefer the thought of Michael having been raised properly in a normal household. When everything is unexplained, it's far more creepy.

Reobeem
09-10-2007, 01:30 PM
a little of both, RZ's version was too trashy and JC's was too clean. there needs to be something to triger Michael while the family tries to support itself

Detroitking02
09-10-2007, 01:48 PM
what was creepy in RZ Halloween when dr.loomis asked michael myers what happened that night when he killed them michael said that wasnt me I didnt kill them and loomis said u was covered in blood and michael said I dont remember that night

Shamrock Silver
09-10-2007, 06:27 PM
I agree with you totally - that made it very creepy.
What was also genuinely terrifying was the way Michael went from sulking around, being a little bored, and flicking candy around - to casually and matter-of-factly murdering the family.
This is the way that so many of these f'd up kids today are.
My wife teaches special ed and gets glimpses of it all the time.
She'll watch one kid hit another - then discipline him and ask why he did it - and the kid totally denies it even though he knows she saw the whole damn thing.

I love both films.
I enjoy the mystery of the original.
I understand and appreciate brutal realism of the remake.

Shamrock Silver
09-10-2007, 06:31 PM
I thought RZ did a solid job of explaining Michael's decline through Loomis and his speech...a perfect storm created by the blend of an inherent mental defect, combined with a shitty home life.

mmyers78
09-11-2007, 02:08 PM
i think that it would make michael a little more scarier if he came from a normal family, but this works

The Kilted One
09-11-2007, 02:11 PM
Eh, It all depends on what effect you're going for. Clean was right for John's vision, shitty was right for Rob's... that's pretty profound, when you think about it. :bastard:

Brandon Real
09-11-2007, 02:17 PM
I think a normal family made it much creepier. There's no understandable motive behind Michael's murders when he was 6. Don't get me wrong though, I think Rob did a geat job with the broken home storyline.

ragethorn
09-11-2007, 02:31 PM
What if JC didn't intend on us thinking that the original had Michael living in a normal environment. I mean, we don't really know. All we see is that his parents are gone and his sister is having sex. How do we know that's her boyfriend? What if she's promiscuous? What if she was supposed to take care of Michael that night but told him to bugger off and go trick or treatin' by himelf?

What if?

What if?

What if his parents don't give him attention or love? Maybe that's why his mothers hands were in her pocket because she didn't look that worried.

ZomBrad
09-12-2007, 11:27 PM
What if his parents don't give him attention or love? Maybe that's why his mothers hands were in her pocket because she didn't look that worried.

I always thought of the Myers' like this. I could always picture them going out to eat, and leaving Judith, and Michael home, or if they did take them out, I could just imagine Mrs. Myers saying something like, "Now Michael, I want you to behave tonight. I don't want you making us look bad, so that means no horseplay, you hear me?". (Which reminds me, I bet if Mrs. Myers was a real person she'd be pissed at the way she was shown in RZ's Halloween, lol).

Anyways. I voted that a seemingly normal kid suddenly murdering his sister for no apparent reason was creepier.

But, like someone said earlier, it was damn creepy in RZ's version when Michael went about killing his family like he was doing his chores, also when he denied doing it to Loomis.

I didn't think the trashy family was too over the top. Believe me, I've lived in BackWoodsVille (AKA Camden), Arkansas. I could definitely see something like this happening there. Kids raised in hateful, ignorant atmospheres, and neglectful stereotypically hick parents. It was scary there :bigeyes: !

So, for me, it was pretty realistic. If someone like Michael Myers was brought up with people like some of the people I met down there, instead of a loving family who, if noticed early enough, could get him some psychological help.....well, let's just say we'd probably have a real life, yet probably not so invincible Boogie Man out there :crazy:.

They're both scary IMO.

madmax4000
09-12-2007, 11:40 PM
Normal MYERS Kicks Ass LOL

Dr_Loomis02
09-12-2007, 11:57 PM
I voted for "normal" but I didn't mind RZ version either. I DO think normal is scarier because it's so unexpected and unexplainable. The unexplained makes things scarier IMO. The mystery of "why." That is more effective to me. But again, I didn't hate RZH for taking away most of the mystery. Again, it was a different approach, which I liked for being different.

Kinick
09-13-2007, 07:08 AM
Definitely normal. I hate the white trash backstory of Zombie's, especially Ronnie...i enjoy it more when this is out of the way.

As far as bullying, i think the scene in the woods is very real and one of my favourites...although Zombie's original idea was to have Michael kill an innocent school girl, to show how evil he is, but here's he's just crazy and getting revenge.

renee30152
09-13-2007, 07:30 AM
I think a normal family made it much creepier. There's no understandable motive behind Michael's murders when he was 6. Don't get me wrong though, I think Rob did a geat job with the broken home storyline.


I agree. Coming from a normal and loving family and then for him to turn evil for no reason is very creepy.

mr_casper_sgv
09-13-2007, 01:56 PM
normal childhood!

Myers Insurance
09-13-2007, 02:11 PM
Did we ever know for sure if Michael came from a normal childhood from the original? It was implied, but I don't recall it ever being said outright.

A. Remin' D.
09-13-2007, 02:20 PM
Normal childhood.

Evil steming from a clean, middle-class family is just cool.

HannibalBEATNGU
09-13-2007, 06:25 PM
A normal childhood with elements of abuse that Zombie went ridiculously overboard with.

LOOMIS 68
09-23-2007, 03:21 PM
Well I Have To Say I Prefer Rz's Story Of Micheal Because To Me-given The Fact That He Came From A "dysfunctional" Family So To Speak-that Was Just More Ammunition For Him To Fall Into The Darkside. I Really Felt For Him Given The Bully Situation,the Sleazeball Stepdad And His Snobby Ass Sister!!

I Was Glad Rx Gave A New Spin And A Sort Of Deeper Look Into The Early Childhood Of Mike. Thumbs Up Rob!!! It Makes It At Least A Lil More Feasible To See That He Just Went All Out To Kill Those Who He Felt Treated Him Wrong And Showed Their Disconcern For Him.

His Mom Was The Only Person Who Really Cared About Him And Loved Him!!!

mattc_85
09-23-2007, 03:24 PM
I think the normal child perspective worked tons better. It just gave this unsettling tone to the film. It made you wonder what this little kid was doing on Halloween. RZ went overboard with the white trash upbringing, he hit us over the head with it, no subtlety at all.

WhiteZombie
09-23-2007, 05:02 PM
Both could work. Zombie worked the Shitty childhood well. The orignal never told us he was "Normal", although he problably was. But had it of been made into more of a story, it could also work.

myers5fan
09-23-2007, 05:58 PM
I think the fact that Michael in the first film was a seemingly normal child from a normal home made the film more shocking and scarier.

Hallow's Eve
09-24-2007, 12:58 PM
I'm undecided on this one. I Think it works well either way. On one hand, it makes it more mysterious when he had a normal childhood. That way, it's like how the hell did he become so evil with a normal upbringing? Is he possesed by the devil or is he in fact evil incarnate? On the other hand, it makes a lot more sense if he was abused as a child. This brings him down to earth and makes him more realistic like a Ted Bundy type serial killer. Either way, he's psychotic, ha, ha!

Big Bad Wolf
09-26-2007, 04:13 PM
I chose abused, because it puts a bit more emphasis on how far he fell in sanity, and the mysteriousness behind it. Other kids have been abused like he was, if not worse, and turned out fine, if not really good people. I think that even the trashy homelife he had in Zombie's film would not be enough to make him go as insane as he went. In other words, there is no way that even a life like that could cause it, which would mean that there is more at work that we don't know about.

Also, I'd like to add that we never saw his life in the original film. Sure, he looked like a normal little boy, in a normal house, with normal parents, but if you look at true stories of abused children, many of them DO look frighteningly normal from the outside. For all we know, his life really could have been hell. The difference is, in Zombie's film, it's shown a little more on the outside too that he didn't live well. Now I'm not saying he was abused as a child in the original film, but you really can't say he wasn't, because no one ever saw how that Michael lived.

LoriStrode07
09-26-2007, 08:22 PM
I liked both childhoods because they both showed how much of a monster Michael became. The newer one was even worse IMO because before we knew that he was made evil by Thorn. However in the new one he became a monster because of a bunch of issues that he had because of the abuse at home, his issues with his mom's job and the taunting at school.

*wanted*
09-30-2007, 02:04 PM
bit of both...when u have a film thast got secils or been remade by so meny differnt people theyll always want there story put acorsss so your bound to have contradictions... the trashyness of the family was odviouly form the start of this film...the compleat oposate to the original all american family...BUT in HR where they where saying about locking him up in the celler and stuff it was alot like...the myers family?nooooo never haha...

so i tink a nice mix of both would be nice...not have them be THAT trashy....

i think rob zombie explaned things alot better tho:)..evin still when im watching the orginal it takes me a while to relice shes micheals brother...wheres in this film they pritty much say it out straight exactly what happened "i anderd the call to the fmaily...went found the child bruight to her to an emergancy room in the next town....bla bla bla i then find out my friend adopted her" haha

maybe what we all should get is the original story and the new story all geld toegther and make one big story to explane everything...

JWILL2
11-02-2007, 08:15 AM
Def normal...I like the "no rhyme or reason" theory...I liked the fact he was just evil, with his abused childhood it gave him a reason to be that way..I liked much better the fact that we had no clue what was going on in that boys head

F@@@inlovemyers
11-06-2007, 09:31 AM
the whole abused thing makes him seem less scary, hell if i grew up in a home like that i would kill people too but growing up normal with no reason to kill people makes him more scary

LindsLo
11-11-2007, 03:09 PM
Micheal being brought up in a normal family is definatly alot more scary to me but it wasnt that big of an issue.

matthew28
11-13-2007, 12:24 PM
Normal childhood beats the abused childhood's ass....but then it feels bad about it and promises that it'll never happen again...:nodsmile:

Roswell
11-13-2007, 12:31 PM
Normal childhood would be my preferred choice, but I didn't mind the abused childhood.

LoriStrode07
11-17-2007, 10:53 AM
either or for me.

Laurie Strode
11-18-2007, 10:10 PM
I prefer normal. Much more scary IMO. Abused is so typical....and boring.

DoomsdayFAN
11-26-2007, 05:00 PM
What would you have preffered or prefer Michael's early days to have been like?
Abused and with a trashy family as Rob Zombie portrays or something other? Maybe a normal kid that just turned on Halloween night?

I will argue that Michael didnt have an "abused" childhood, other than verbally from Ronnie. Otherwise... he had a loving mother. His sister was just a normal teen b*tch. Otherwise, was pretty normal, accept than they seemed to be kind of poor.

Schmeer
11-26-2007, 06:47 PM
I like the normal childhood. I enjoy the "one day he was fine and the next day he just picked up a knife and never put it down" concept. It really shows that he was just born with the evil inside him.

St. Brett
11-26-2007, 08:12 PM
I would have had it that both Myers father and Doctor Loomis were both perverted dirty old bastards who were fingering him and were distributing videos to porn rinks around the world and let's not forget Halloween Ressurection how in the basement there were shackels, locks and keys and other SnM material as well hinting that Myers was subject to kinky parent abuse.

He's similar to Jason and hates teens rooting in sleeping bags 'n shit thus setting him off to kill mother fuckers.

Ching ching.

mr32
12-05-2007, 09:07 AM
A normal kid

BONES
12-23-2007, 06:56 PM
Michael has always been a source of unknown evil the abuce thing realy was not needed and still did not explane why he was so F'ed up it did't seem that bad:hallow:

Kildo
12-28-2007, 07:44 PM
I've never known of a killer with a hick up bringing who became a quiet stalker type slasher psycho. More likely they become loud, obnoxious, beer bellied hicks themselves. Killers or not killers. So the concept of his upbringing was quite silly from the standpoint invoked! Maybe if his parents were more into what is aptly called 'ritual abuse' it would have made more sense, but just some stupid hicks slapping their children around on occasion? If that were enough to produce a psychotic mute killer then trailer parks across america would be brimming with michael meyer's clones.

tombennett91
12-29-2007, 11:33 AM
Normal but they should have shown more of it, like how the family relates with each other and stuff.

BONES
12-29-2007, 06:41 PM
Maybe it was something genetic and came from his Dad they never touched on him in this movie what about that??????

renee30152
12-29-2007, 06:46 PM
To me, I don't think the mom abused little mikey at all. She seemed loving and was probably the best mum she could be. Now that sister and that scum she kept around is another story..

Todd
12-29-2007, 06:48 PM
The one thing I didn't care for in this movie was the way Michael was humanized and explained. I know RZ was going for a more realistic take on things, but the mystery about Michael is the one thing he should have left alone. By taking away the question marks surrounding Michael, Zombie basically removed the "Shape" from the movie.

BONES
12-29-2007, 06:55 PM
The one thing I didn't care for in this movie was the way Michael was humanized and explained. I know RZ was going for a more realistic take on things, but the mystery about Michael is the one thing he should have left alone. By taking away the question marks surrounding Michael, Zombie basically removed the "Shape" from the movie.

Totaly they messed it up on that note there was no real mystery anymore.....

Pasabi
12-30-2007, 01:08 AM
Kildo I believe Ed Gein grew up in a small town who was quiet.

BONES
12-30-2007, 02:52 AM
And what about Dahlmer?

halloweenbabe
12-30-2007, 08:50 AM
I liked the Pure evil, unstoppable - feel more, I personally liked him more from a normal home life, I think it made it more scary. esp. for the time it came out,

renee30152
12-30-2007, 08:58 AM
Kildo I believe Ed Gein grew up in a small town who was quiet.

Yeah and he was one messed up dude.


I liked the Pure evil, unstoppable - feel more, I personally liked him more from a normal home life, I think it made it more scary. esp. for the time it came out,

It was for me too. There was no rhyme and reason for his evilness. That is more scary to me.:nodsmile:

BONES
12-30-2007, 09:36 AM
It made the stuff in Resorection seem plausable like the high chair and such

wyatt s
12-30-2007, 06:05 PM
for me it really depends on the movie itself. Michael being completely ambiguous in the original flick, worked for that movie and continued to work with varying different degrees of effectiveness through out multiple installments the series. However the remake is a very different film in almost every way, and I personally think that the abusive past works better in this picture than having Michael just snapped one day seemingly without any catalyst. I don't really believe that Michael needs any sort of definitive back ground. The way I see it fictional characters , Michael Myers included, are always subject to change and grow with each different writer assigned to them. It's why I didn't have a problem when they introduced the concept of Thorn into the original series, and it's why I don't have a problem with what Rob Zombie did with the character. Now does this mean that I want everything explained about the character? No. But I don’t have a problem with getting a taste or a little bit of explanation.

So I guess I'll choose a little of both.

cloud2795
01-01-2008, 08:53 AM
in RZ it shows a little bit of why he killed everyone but in the original he just go and kills like he need something to do and for me that makes the original better

capngravy
01-18-2008, 06:47 PM
Mike coming from trailer trash makes the whole RAGE thing more believeable. When you see the original it is disturbing because it is like " What the fuck is his problem." With Rob Zombie its like " Damn you know he was holding that one in." But personally I like them both. They work well with the setting of both movies.

BONES
01-18-2008, 09:20 PM
I like the norm the other seems like a steriotype like every one that has some bad shit hapen to them as a kid will just snap plus it just seemed beter not knowing it added to the enigma that is the shape...

Klown_Face
02-04-2008, 07:55 PM
I would go with the Abused and bullied as in Rob Zombie's Halloween.

BONES
02-05-2008, 03:18 AM
Are you sure????

commonkid911
02-06-2008, 09:45 PM
The remake should of never happened. But I have accepted it, I am just not a fan.

coryorton
02-10-2008, 12:21 AM
As lame as it may come off in the bandwagon-area, anything but the version we recieved. I never wanted Haddonfield to be for rednecks and trailer-trash. I know it was a re-imagining and we're not "supposed" to continiously compare, but c'mon.

A bit of some trauma would be okay, but like many said the first page - a normal childhood would've been better. Which is why I picked a bit of both.

BONES
02-10-2008, 09:34 AM
I know you can't please everyone all the time but I think the whole red-neck biker kinda thing we got was not great for H-town ya know I mean I know there are red-neck's and bikers in every town but in that town and that kind of naborhood-?????????-Now an alcoholic dad with a thing for beating him/or stepdad but I think it could be beter....:mike:

MM2DYLAN
02-12-2008, 07:21 AM
I think the abused childhood gives more reason for him to kill, and i like that. I mean he originally killed the people who gave him shit.

MM2DYLAN
02-12-2008, 07:22 AM
plus, the normal society thing is a bit cliched.

Pandaz
08-29-2008, 01:09 PM
Michael having this ideal childhood with a loving family in the original is no more than an assumption. We didn't know anything about him whatsoever! Anyhow, I definitely prefer a normal childhood. In my opinion, assuming that Michael did have a good childhood in the original, it's more frightening that he would just snap for no apparent reason than it is him coming from this broken household with a slutty sister, his mother stripping to make ends meet, and his mother's abusive, and useless boyfriend constantly picking on him. There is horror in the unknown.

Todd
08-29-2008, 01:20 PM
There are plenty of kids who come from abused backgrounds that don't end up serial killers. I really liked it better when we had only partial answers to the reason behind Michaels actions.

Lord Thurisaz
08-29-2008, 02:06 PM
I prefer the normal childhood of the original over that of the remake. It was more scary and was much more "wtf is his problem?", whereas with Zombies, it's like "eh, he got mad, killed some people... who cares."

Danny Strode
08-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Ha, ha. The good thing about the crash is that I can change my opinion. :p

Originally, I had voted for a bad childhood, but now, I since have changed it to him having a normal childhood. It's more scary that way.

Laurie2007
08-30-2008, 12:11 PM
normal

spindrift68
08-30-2008, 12:15 PM
Norman Childhood

The abused child shit in the remake was just bullshit.

Gee, people screamed in his house, and he got beat up at school. That's a great reason to become a homicidal maniac & go on a major killing spree.

Laurie2007
08-30-2008, 12:18 PM
Norman Childhood



norman haha sorry i just had to point that out

NYCKing87
08-30-2008, 12:20 PM
Normal childhood.

SlasherBoi
08-31-2008, 11:53 AM
I think abused and bullied as he was in RZ's Halloween considering that would make him have the motive he had for killing innocent people

MM2DYLAN
08-31-2008, 11:59 AM
Honestly, the normal childhood makes it more scary. But I don't think the abused childhood makes Michael any less evil.

nwiser
08-31-2008, 02:11 PM
I voted for the normal childhood. If he came from a perfectly normal/happy background, the only explanation for him going on a killing spree would be that he was evil to the core.

With the way it turned out, he did a few things that can be considered evil, but in his mind he was simply trying to eliminate undesirables from the happy family he wanted with his mom and boo.

JOeKER
09-05-2008, 06:24 AM
I actually prefer the abused childhood. It gives Michael the source of his rage. We see how badly he was treated so we know just how vengeful he can be.

Laurie2007
09-05-2008, 07:50 AM
i liked the normal...it gives me....pure evil to it

Warlock44
09-05-2008, 07:55 AM
Zombie took everything interesting about Myers and removed it. Now he's just an abused kid wanting to take it out on everyone. Not a healthy way to invoke sympathy. That's why I say --- NO MORE ZOMBIE STORIES PLEASE.:drool:

Danny Strode
09-05-2008, 08:01 PM
That's why I say --- NO MORE ZOMBIE STORIES PLEASE.:drool:

It's not happening. Don't worry.

DistantJ
11-07-2008, 02:24 AM
I didn't really think that Michael had an abused childhood in the new movie. If you watch properly, you'll notice that it's only his benefit-claiming stepdad who was the asshole. Sheri Moon Zombie's character is a nice mother to him and Judith is pretty standard for a brat of that age. The bullying was no worse than what most kids go through at school.

Mikey had a pure evil psycho developing inside of him for no good reason, which is then unleashed on the people who pissed him off - the bully, the noisy step-dad and then Judith.

If it had been a truly abusive family, I doubt we'd have seen such a dramatic scene afterwards with Sheri's character crying out for her family as they're all rushed into ambulances.

I think the idea was to just have something to push Mikey into actually killing them - the bully made him mad, the stepdad made him madder, and Judith made him furious, so he killed them all. In the sanitarium, the nurse only had to utter one line before Mikey tore her apart, and when the two janitors abused the girl in his room and fucked around with his masks, that was it then, everybody had to die, and he had to get his baby sister back, the only person in the world he didn't dispise, until she defended herself, at which point he wants her dead too.

If that's not a psycho I don't know what is. I never felt that Rob Zombie intended for it to appear that Michael's childhood was what caused him to be a psycho.

mlf200811
04-25-2009, 01:25 PM
Abused Childhood makes more sence ... But theres no proof that in the original Halloween that he wasnt abused ... So ...

Either way,the kid was born crazy ... Mentally ill ... Killing animals and people at that age with bats, sticks, knives ... That isn't normal ... It wouldnt have mattered how he was raised.

killing animals is from the remake, no offense, but know your movies dude

Zombie_Myers
04-29-2009, 04:09 PM
Honestly, the normal childhood makes it more scary. But I don't think the abused childhood makes Michael any less evil.

I agree :nodsmile:

The abused one makes him more angry and murderous and it's more realistic for him to go on a killing spree after being in a shitty family than a normal one, though a normal kid just suddenly killing someone out of the blue is scarier, both have aspects which are better than the other.

MichaelMyers
05-12-2009, 09:39 AM
A normal childhood would have made it more scary because we would not know why he started killing in the first place, while the abused childhood gives him reason and is not as scary but somehow more plausible.

Art_of_Horror
05-12-2009, 07:38 PM
I always thought that the "pure evil child" thing was scariest. I don't need an explanation for Michael's killings, especially when there that plain and boring, as in RZH. Not trying to attack Rob Zombie at all.

Rich
05-14-2009, 01:14 PM
If I had to make my own Halloween remake, I would focus VERY little on Michael's childhood. Rob Zombie and I are different people with different ideas. Rob basically turned Michael into a slasher when Michael was ten years old. It worked for the story that Rob was telling, but it would be a different story then the one I would tell.

I think that Michael would grow up in a normal house hold, but something would be disturbing him, something that was unclear. His parents would soon find things like neighborhood cats dead in his room and be horrified by it. It would continue until they took him to a doctor, which would be Loomis.

Loomis would try to reach the boy, but the boy did not want the attention. His condition would get worse until he murdered his sister.

That would be my take on it. My Michael would be more of a bad seed then a string of bad events. Not that Rob Zombie's version was not believable. I mean, kids grow up under those conditions all the time, but sometimes, however, people are just bad seeds. Things go on in their head that you can not understand no matter how hard you try.

Plokoon111
06-13-2009, 11:32 AM
I liked the original better, it was much more a surprise and unexplainable which added to the mystery of Micheal. In Rob Zombie he went overboard and gave a reason why Micheal is a killer which didn't make him mysterious or scary.

Devil's Eyes
06-13-2009, 02:21 PM
Normal childhood. An average child from a respectable family in a quiet neighbourhood suddenly becoming a vicious murderer for no reason at all is much more terrifying.

I don't like the sledgehammer approach that RZH used for Michael's childhood. It's just one glaringly obvious thing after another. He grew up in a trashy neighbourhood AND his family's trashy too AND he killed his pets before moving on to people. The fact that Michael spends his adult life slaughtering people left, right and centre is enough of a clue that he's evil, there's no need to hammer home the point by making his backstory so unsubtle.

Horror Kitten
06-18-2009, 02:01 PM
I liked the original Halloween's way of just leaving it to the mind. Even though it appeared that he grew up as just a normal child, you can't really know that. It's creepier that way. The kid was just evil, there was no rhyme or reason. It was up to you to decide why he turned and killed his sister.

That was my biggest problem with this Halloween, that Rob went through the early years like that. I enjoyed the original much better. He was just evil. I probably would have turned out as a bad little fucker too, if I had to grow up in the house Zombie portrayed.

Michael Voorhees
07-21-2009, 08:51 PM
I'd prefer that Michael have a mostly normal childhood, because in essence it makes his mental state that much more fucked up. When a person grows up in a good surrounding with minimal problems, and becomes a psychopathic killer, that shows that they were destined to be like that one way or the other. Michael is supposed to be a souless killing machine, and although RZH is my favorite Halloween film to date, I kind of still dislike them giving Michael a reason for killing.