Official NHL Thread (Off Season News And Notes)

[atomic dog]

ok i just read this a few minutes ago and of course i'm not too happy. look like nohockey this year and who know sof rhow long after. read below:

NHL teams will not play without
A new Collective Bargaining Agreement
See Also:
Full transcript of Bettman speech
Bettman media Q&A transcript

Sept. 15, 2004

NEW YORK - The National Hockey League's Board of Governors today unanimously reconfirmed that NHL teams, upon the expiration of the Collective Bargaining Agreement at midnight tonight, will not play again until there is a new economic system.

Following today's meeting in New York, NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman addressed the media. Excerpts from the address follow:

"For the past several years, as flaws in the current economic system have become increasingly difficult to overcome, we at the National Hockey League have done everything possible to negotiate a new Collective Bargaining Agreement that works, day-in and day-out, to serve the best interests of all involved.

"Sadly, those efforts have not achieved their objective. And as the League stands at the threshold of the conclusion of the current CBA, which occurs at midnight tonight, it is my somber duty to report that at today's meeting, the Board of Governors unanimously re-confirmed that NHL teams will not play at the expiration of the CBA until we have a new system which fixes the economic problems facing our game.

"This action is not taken lightly -- or eagerly -- and when the Union wants to stop the posturing and acknowledges that the problems are as real as our Governors' resolve to fix them, we will be here, ready to make a fair and meaningful agreement that will usher in a new era for our game."

* * *

"Twenty of our Clubs are losing money. There have been too many bankruptcies and too many other close calls. I have had too many owners tell me they will get out of this game if the economics are not repaired."

* * *

"It is a fact -- a fact -- that during this CBA, a team in the top one-third in salaries has been three times more likely to make the playoffs than a team in the bottom third. That is a status quo with which we simply cannot continue to live. Our game and our fans deserve better."

* * *

"There is no short-cut or quick fix. We need an enforceable, defined relationship between revenues and expenses. We need a system that will eliminate the disparities in payrolls, so that a team's ability to compete depends on its team-building skills, not on its ability to pay.

"We believe that such a business model can and must be crafted in a partnership that creates shared rewards."

* * *

"In July, we offered the union six different, creative, ground-breaking methods by which those partnership objectives could be attained.

"Included in those frameworks was a willingness for the players to receive more than 50% of every dollar of revenues our business generates. It may be less than the players are getting now, but we won't apologize for an offer that is more than fair.

"We offered the Union systems that would continue to pay multi-million dollar salaries to our star players. We will not apologize for contracts which could still be in excess of $6 million per year, even if some players would make less than they are now getting.

"We offered the Union systems that would provide an average player salary of $1.3 million, U.S., per season. An average salary of $1.3 million may be less than the players are getting now, but we will not apologize for an average player salary of $1.3 million per season.

"That said, we do apologize to our millions of fans and the thousands of people whose livelihoods depend on our game. It is truly unfortunate that we have to go through this. I assure you that no one is more unhappy about this situation than I am.

"My pledge, at this difficult moment, is that we will correct this untenable situation the right way -- not with Band-Aids and half-measures, but in a way that will ensure the health and excitement of our game for years to come. This game's future depends upon getting the right economic system. In the absence of such a system, there is no future for our game. As difficult as today is, the reality is, we had no choice in the face of the Union's continued refusal to address economic problems that are clear to everyone but them."

* * *

"There is a partnership deal to be made. We encourage the leadership of the players' union to join us in partnership."

* * *

"We owe it to hockey's fans to achieve an economic system that will result in affordable ticket prices and stable, competitive franchises. The very future of our game is at stake, and the NHL's owners are united, as never before -- determined to do everything humanly possible to bring hockey's economic system into the 21st century. We have no other choice."

[Laow-Z]

I don't really follow Hockey so alot of what's going on i don't understand but i know it has alot to do with money, which it always does so my view on the whole matter as well as with all the other times players and such go on strike because of money issues, my statement is "Oh well..you want more than $2 MILLION dollars a year or you'll go on strike!!!!!! Get a fuckin job at 7-11 for $5 an hour and see how $2 MILLION looks then...asshole".

[cmork2000]

I am a hockey fan and am extremely dissappointed by this decision. I remember the last lockout during the 94-95 season. I just hope that this lockout is resolved quickly, but it doesn't look too good.

[Slab]

This lockout will go for at least a year, neither side will want to be seen as caving in. It may being a good thing, and get rid of some of the teams that shouldn't be there.

[King Sly Joker]

Sad that these grown men play a sport.In which its followed by many,let greed close it down...

[Bucky-lives]

well, maybe it's for the best. get rid of some teams and the league won't be as watered down. then maybe we can have some 50 goal scorers and 100 point men again. god it is hard to score 30 right now. the goalies are great but there is not enough players to go around. get rid of some teams = most useless players will be gone. more talented players = more offense.

sad as it sounds this will help the NHL.

[hallo-scream]

That totally sucks. I love Hockey. Go Penguins!! :D!! I am not a sports person, but hockey is my thing and if it is a no go then I don't know what I'll do. Once again this totally sucks. Oh well

[Slab]

Originally posted by Bucky-lives
get rid of some teams = most useless players will be gone. more talented players = more offense.

sad as it sounds this will help the NHL.

There's nothing sad about it, there's a bunch of ham and eggers who shouldn't even be in the league. The only reason they got out of the minors is to fill expansion clubs.

There's a reason why leagues like the NHL, NBA, MLB, and NFL are the pros. That's because only the best should be there, and that's not the case in the NHL right now.

That's one of the reasons why it's suffering.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by Bucky-lives
well, maybe it's for the best. get rid of some teams and the league won't be as watered down. then maybe we can have some 50 goal scorers and 100 point men again. god it is hard to score 30 right now. the goalies are great but there is not enough players to go around. get rid of some teams = most useless players will be gone. more talented players = more offense.

sad as it sounds this will help the NHL.


Hockey is now facing the same problems baseball did.With major market teams having the biggest share of the pie.It causes the smaller market teams to lose money or move.Example Winnipeg,Quebec and Hartford.Sad part is this kick ass sport was made famous in Canada,only to be drained and locked out ,by greedy american owners...:mad:

[Ringu]

This really sucks, I love Hockey and always order the NHL Package so I can watch like 5 games or more a night. I hope it gets resolved.

[urg]

the lockout is now 109 days old, and the season may be cancelled on january 14 by the owners. it doesn't look good.

[Slab]

It's done like dinner. Just enjoy what's left of the world junior championships, and watch the minor league stuff.

I'm not missing it as much as I thought, and the players and owners will realize that many others will feel the same way.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by The Slab
It's done like dinner. Just enjoy what's left of the world junior championships, and watch the minor league stuff.

I'm not missing it as much as I thought, and the players and owners will realize that many others will feel the same way. True stick a fork in the NHL.Its done.But when the new season comes.I just cant see fans flockling back to it,with open arms...:mad:

[Slab]

Originally posted by King Sly Joker
True stick a fork in the NHL.Its done.But when the new season comes.I just cant see fans flockling back to it,with open arms...:mad:

Some Canadian fans will come back, but I'm sure the league and union will be surprised by how many will stay away. With football winding down, and NHL done those fans will find something else.

They can't afford much more disinterest, and that's what they already have in the states. Canada will follow at this rate, especially since they're sick of watching millionaires fighting billionaires.

[atomic dog]

i'll be back, no doubt, to watch. but i'm only one person and there are many people who might be totally turned off.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by atomic dog
i'll be back, no doubt, to watch. but i'm only one person and there are many people who might be totally turned off. Just like when baseball went on strike.And cancelled the world series.Alot of fans didnt come back.Its a tricky thing to deal with.And they need to find a solution fast..

[urg]

Originally posted by King Sly Joker
True stick a fork in the NHL.Its done.But when the new season comes.I just cant see fans flockling back to it,with open arms...:mad:

i just don't see the nhl rebounding like the nba did after 1998 and baseball after 1994. looks like this could be the end of the nhl. to be honest, i'm not to disappointed.

[atomic dog]

the nhl might need a big player to show all the fans that they need to watch it.

[urg]

Originally posted by atomic dog
the nhl might need a big player to show all the fans that they need to watch it.

sorry, but gretsky's retired.

[Slab]

Originally posted by urg
sorry, but gretsky's retired.

Sidney Crosby is the one touted to be the next big thing right now. It won't matter though if there isn't a draft for a team to pick him though. :(

Also even though Gretzky's retired, anything he says about the situation would have some clout. It's just that he used to be a player, and now he's an owner.

Compromising position.

[jmb_052]

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[Slab]

Originally posted by jmb_052
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Tell us something we don't know. :p ;)

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by urg
i just don't see the nhl rebounding like the nba did after 1998 and baseball after 1994. looks like this could be the end of the nhl. to be honest, i'm not to disappointed.

Well if some big name players,would come out.And say the lockout needs to end.For the sake of the fans.Then maybe it could survive.But right now,its on life sport as a sport in the united states.With Canada its their passion.So it wouldnt surprise me ,if a Canadian league started up...

[MichaelMyers]

The season is officially over and was cancelled today.

[LoomisFan4Life]

yeah this may be the begining of the end for pro hockey in the U.S. as we know it.

[Franchise]

Hockey's been cancelled and the funny thing is this: no one was there to hear about it. It's sad. Hockey is a good sport, but definitely is a fringe one here in the states.

[TheShape66]

Originally posted by hallo-scream
That totally sucks. I love Hockey. Go Penguins!!

YES!!!!!!!Another wonderful Pens fan in here!!!!!


Atomic, You should have called this the 'Official No NHL Season Thread'

[atomic dog]

i might actually change it, but hope it rolls over for next season if there is one (hopefully).

yeah i got the email today and it was expected.

[Superman]

Originally posted by atomic dog
i might actually change it, but hope it rolls over for next season if there is one (hopefully).

yeah i got the email today and it was expected. I heard on the news tonight the the season has been cancelled.

[urg]

it's about damn time that they did it. i just hope that they have thing worked out by next season though.

[Ozzy]

I wont be going to any nhl games for a while. I love the leafs but they wont be seeing any of my money for a long time. I wont be suprised if we see replacement players at the start of next season.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by Ozzy
I wont be going to any nhl games for a while. I love the leafs but they wont be seeing any of my money for a long time. I wont be suprised if we see replacement players at the start of next season.
I doubt we will see replacement players. Who wants to see that crap. They have said that this could go on anywhere from 3 years or even forever. That would leave us with the AHL. The next highest league of hockey thats out there today.

[NCamp]

Atleast I wont have to deal with any preemptions because of flyers games.

[King Sly Joker]

Well if you look at this.The owner have hit a homerun with closing the season.The fans will rebell and cause cracks in the players union.Plus when training camps open up,if they use replacement players.The real players will really fall to the owners and have no choice but come back..

[Ultimate Killer]

I'm in official mourning mode., hockey is my favorite spprt to both play & watch..

Greedy mother f*ckers!!!

[Slab]

Not a real shock to see this happen, it was a long time in coming. The business now has to change in order to save the game, and that's a good thing.

Also a wake up call to other leagues, NBA contract is up soon then baseball after that.

[Ashleigh]

No more Steve Yzerman. :( I'm sad.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
No more Steve Yzerman. :( I'm sad.

It's most likely the last hurrah for him, Brett Hull, Mark Messier, and a few others. Unfortunately the spending of teams that Mess, and Stevie Y belong to escalated a lot of the problems to begin with. :(

[Ashleigh]

Oh, I know that, but...I'm still sad. lol I just can't believe the selfishness of some of the players. Eh, oh well. Maybe they can get this all figured out soon.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Oh, I know that, but...I'm still sad. lol I just can't believe the selfishness of some of the players. Eh, oh well. Maybe they can get this all figured out soon. Greed played the final chapter in this story.Now the real test will be if fans will come back..

[Ultimate Killer]

King Sly Joker, I'm diggin the av, now I feel I have to counter with one. This year the Red Sox VS Yankees rivalry is gonna be something from outta this world..

Man, I can't wait.... tonight I will work on my new av..


Back on topic, I can't stand both sides for not getting a deal worked out..

I LOVE HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!

[King Sly Joker]

Now there is news of the players union trying to work a deal.To me its them trying to save face.Because their greed closed down the NHL..

[NCamp]

Can anyone watch one of these games all the way through? I dont think Ive ever been able to ;)

[Chaosboy]

R.I.P...N.H.L:D

[atomic dog]

i don't know how they will save this season. it iwll be so short that it will be over too soon. i say keep it off till next season and gt it right.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by atomic dog
i don't know how they will save this season. it iwll be so short that it will be over too soon. i say keep it off till next season and gt it right.
If they get it right at all. The Tampa Bay Lightning could end up being the very last team to hold the Stanley Cup.

[King Sly Joker]

Originally posted by atomic dog
i don't know how they will save this season. it iwll be so short that it will be over too soon. i say keep it off till next season and gt it right.

Perhaps,but can they bring the pissed off fans back.Baseball can teach the NHL a lesson on closing a season..

[MichaelMyers]

Two big firms offered the NHL owners 3.5 billion to purchase the entire NHL league. It won't be sold though, because all 30 owners would have to agree to it and they won't. Here's the full story though: $3.5 Billion Offer For NHL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2003701)

[atomic dog]

are they making any trades in this 'off season'?

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by atomic dog
are they making any trades in this 'off season'?
No trades, but towards the beginning there were signings.

[atomic dog]

will there be a draft this year too?

[TheShape66]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Two big firms offered the NHL owners 3.5 billion to purchase the entire NHL league. It won't be sold though, because all 30 owners would have to agree to it and they won't. Here's the full story though: $3.5 Billion Offer For NHL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2003701)

I was going to post this yesterday, just didn't get around to it. Kinda interesting, but I guess according to the Bruins Owner, all 30 Owners would have to agree for the sale to take place, and he's already stated that he won't do it

[Slab]

Originally posted by atomic dog
will there be a draft this year too?

As far as it's looking now probably not. The owners have said though that there will be a season next year no matter how they have to do it. By that logic you'd think they're going to use replacememnt players.

[atomic dog]

Originally posted by The Slab
As far as it's looking now probably not. The owners have said though that there will be a season next year no matter how they have to do it. By that logic you'd think they're going to use replacememnt players.
probably, and make a movie about it too, :D

[Slab]

Originally posted by atomic dog
probably, and make a movie about it too, :D

No kidding. :p

Truth be told, if the PA has a problem with "scabs", they should talk to the players who took jobs from people in the European leagues, and the minors in North America.

They talk of solidarity, but 400 of them went overseas to not practice what they preach.

[PhantomPhart]

That's it i'm gonna start training now and hopefully i can be in the NHL in two years lol

You think it might happen like wrestling? young talent disappears and we get all the old guys back for a while?

(i know we will get AHL but it doesn't hurt to dream)

[MichaelMyers]

They officially cancelled the 2005 Draft.

[Ozzy]

To show you how fed up us canadian fans our with the players, they had a charity game with nhl players in Red Deer, Alberta a few nights ago and i think like 200 fans showed up in a 5000 seat arena. I hope they see that theyve killed the nhl in the u.s.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ozzy
To show you how fed up us canadian fans our with the players, they had a charity game with nhl players in Red Deer, Alberta a few nights ago and i think like 200 fans showed up in a 5000 seat arena. I hope they see that theyve killed the nhl in the u.s.

Ryan Smyth canceled the rest of that charity tour as well. Fans are really turned off, and there was even booing at the event in Red Deer as well.

Mostly for Mike Comrie, and his issues with the Oilers last season. Hopefully those players take something away from that experience, especially since they won't get a better deal than has already been offered. With the loss of revenue from one season gone, you're not going to get the same kind of coin.

[atomic dog]

some information i found from sports illustrated:

Business agents for Michael Jordan have reportedly complained to NBA execs that franchise values have recently soared out of the NBA icon and would-be owner's price range. Instead, Jordan is now considering buying the entire NHL.

[urg]

Originally posted by atomic dog
some information i found from sports illustrated:

Business agents for Michael Jordan have reportedly complained to NBA execs that franchise values have recently soared out of the NBA icon and would-be owner's price range. Instead, Jordan is now considering buying the entire NHL.

MJ owning the entire nhl? now that'd be a weird site. i say the owners should sell the nhl on ebay.

[NightmareMaster]

I'm truly sorry about bringing back this thread, but I had to ask this question and I figured, this thread is abput Hockey and this relates to hockey so I would ask it here, instead of creating a single thread and having it get closed.

My question relates to the Stanely Cup.

Many fans are infuriated because what should have been the most anticipated and hyped time of the year has been completely wiped out by the cancellation of the season.

And one of them is doing something about it.

A Toronto lawyer named Tim Gilbert has filed a claim against the N.H.L. and the trustees of the Stanley Cup. He’s representing a group called the Wednesday Nighters, some recreational players, who want the Ontario Superior Court to force those in charge of hockey’s most sacred symbol to free up the Cup for alternate tournaments.

Their claim centres on how the original Lord Stanley made the prize available in 1892, and his wish that it be awarded every year to the best team in hockey.

But there was no N.H.L. then, and in their collective mind, that 'every year' stipulation means the League has no claim on it if it’s not going to give it out.

“It's an application in Ontario court to declare that the Stanley Cup is held on trust for the benefit of all hockey,” Gilbert explains. “We also want the court to declare the fact that the N.H.L. season has been cancelled doesn't mean that the Cup can't be awarded, and in fact that the trustees have a duty and obligation to award the Cup.”

Governor General Adrienne Clarkson had previously suggested the trophy should have been made available as the top prize for women’s hockey. But that idea was rejected.

Gilbert believes someone should be able to go for the Cup, which has only missed being awarded once in history. That was during the lethal flu epidemic of 1919.

But right now the only ones who are feeling sick are the fans.

Officials have repeatedly turned down any plans to share hockey’s Holy Grail. Cup trustee Brian O’Neill insists an iron clad agreement with the N.H.L. stipulates only that league can compete for Lord Stanley's Mug.

And that’s something not even a court decision or the ire of fans can change.

It may all be a moot point – the case isn’t scheduled to be heard until July 18th, although the legal team is trying to get that moved up to May.

What is your opinion regarding the Stanley Cup where do you think it belongs and why?

[atomic dog]

wow. i didn't know this was happening. my question is: if the cup is available for all hockey, which league gets it? they all have their won cups to win so where would the stanley cup fit in?

[Slab]

The cup going to the best team in hockey was way back when. I believe that when the NHL was formed, the league became custodian of the cup. The only team that should get it, should be an NHL one.

If we have to wait longer for that to happen, so be it.

[MichaelMyers]

Well the NHL is returning after a 301 day lockout.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2106776

[Ringu]

Thank goodness it's coming back, I missed it this past year. Go Sabres!

[atomic dog]

well don't jump the gun yet. let's wait for official release of a schedule.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by atomic dog
well don't jump the gun yet. let's wait for official release of a schedule.

Yeah, we can't we 100% sure till its official, even though its not yet I'm still stoked.

[NCamp]

*HATER ALERT* *HATER ALERT*


Great just what I need, the return of preempted shows due to Flyers' games. ;)

[TheShape66]

Thank God everyone came to their senses and finally got a deal done!!!!! I can't wait for the official news next week that the deal is ratified(and it will be...guaranteed). Time to start breaking out all my Penguins stuff!!!! (at least for the next two years while they are in Pittsburgh...I don't see a new arena being built and the team will be moved)

[Ashleigh]

I've been waiting a year for this. :D All I have is the Wings now. Well, I would have had the Pistons, but they laid an egg a few weeks ago. :p ;) Blah. I'm just excited. The return of the NHL is better than the best orgasm. Okay, maybe not that last part, but it's still exciting.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
The return of the NHL is better than the best orgasm. Okay, maybe not that last part, but it's still exciting.
Whoa, you really like the NHL, don't you? ;)

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Whoa, you really like the NHL, don't you? ;)

You're damn right. :D

[DarkMyers]

I was so happy to hear this, being Canadian and all. :p

[NightmareMaster]

I am very happy to hear the decison, I love my hockey and I missed it so much, I am still going to wait to see what goes on before I get too excited, but never the less, I am very happy to hear the good news.

In your opinion guys, what do you think the league needs to do to make sure we don't get into this kind of situation again?
I am sure they are working around a way that will prevent this from becoming a future problem.

All and all I am happy as a hockey fan and hope that we never have to face problems like this again in the future, as a Canadian, Hockey means alot to me, its apart of my culture.

Ps. Who do you think should get Sidney Crosby, I don't really know myself who I would pick. I would say at least a top team.

[Slab]

Every team has a shot at landing Crosby. Some have a better chance, but he can go anywhere.

Check this (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2107300) out.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
I've been waiting a year for this. :D All I have is the Wings now. Well, I would have had the Pistons, but they laid an egg a few weeks ago. :p ;) Blah. I'm just excited. The return of the NHL is better than the best orgasm. Okay, maybe not that last part, but it's still exciting.

You know it Ash! (well maybe not the last part;))

Here in Detroit we live and breath Wings, and you don't know how hard it is to not see any Red and White sweaters skating around the Joe for a whole year. Right now the Wings have a big problem, with the new cap we have to choose who we want to stay and who to let loose and that isn't easy in Hockeytown.

Here's hoping Stevie Y can stay around for another year or so!:)

[Ringu]

Did anyone else see this? There are new rules for the NHL this year and they put videos up that EA did with NHL '06, here's the videos: 2005-2006 New NHL Rules (http://www.nhl.com/)

[Phatmaster2k8]

Awesome find Sean, that game doesn't look all too bad:p

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Awesome find Sean, that game doesn't look all too bad:p

No problem. I can't wait for this season to start so I can get that Hockey Package on TV!

[Slab]

Well, just thought I'd bump this up since the Oilers played their first pre-season game last night, and beat those filthy Flames. :D

In a shootout no less!!!

Also picked up tickets to the home opener against the Colorado Avalanche. Should be interesting to see how this team is without some of it's key guys, and new rules in place.

I'm calling out your Avs Bundy!!! ;) :) :D

[atomic dog]

any thoughts of who mght tke the cup this year? does anyone think the lightning will keep it for another year?

[PhantomPhart]

Flyers look good if they stay healthy. Who's Tampa's goalie now?

[Slab]

Originally posted by atomic dog
any thoughts of who might tke the cup this year? does anyone think the lightning will keep it for another year?

No idea, though I could see Philly coming out of the East (on paper mind you, a lot can happen). I doubt the Bolts will go on to win again though, while they still got a lot of their team, they lost the one guy who matters the most in Nikolai Khabibullin.



Originally posted by PhantomPhart
Flyers look good if they stay healthy. Who's Tampa's goalie now?

Since Khabibulin went to Chicago, the Bolts goalies are John Grahame and Sean Burke.

Once again, on paper, I'd have to say the Eastern team to beat is Philly. As for the West, it's a little hard to call right now. The teams in the West have always been better. :)

[PhantomPhart]

Originally posted by The Slab
No idea, though I could see Philly coming out of the East (on paper mind you, a lot can happen). I doubt the Bolts will go on to win again though, while they still got a lot of their team, they lost the one guy who matters the most in Nikolai Khabibullin.

Since Khabibulin went to Chicago, the Bolts goalies are John Grahame and Sean Burke.

Once again, on paper, I'd have to say the Eastern team to beat is Philly. As for the West, it's a little hard to call right now. The teams in the West have always been better. :) Thanks i was wondering who their goalie was and for the life of me i couldn't think of a name.

The Oilers look pretty good this year. Pronger and Peca are great additions. Oilers could win the division.

[atomic dog]

it's been way too long but it's time to unearth this thread.






WELCOME BACK HOCKEY!!!

[Ringu]

Originally posted by atomic dog
it's been way too long but it's time to unearth this thread.






WELCOME BACK HOCKEY!!!

HELL YEAH!!! It's been too long but it's great to have it back. The Sabres/Islanders game is going on now and it's just great to be able to watch it again. GO SABRES!!!

[Slab]

Went to the Oilers opener tonight against the Avs. Fast and furious, 4-3 win for my boys. :D

[Ringu]

Well of course the Sabres won against the Islanders 6-4 last night, they've got a good team this year, winning like that is a good way to start out the season.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Wing won 5-1...nuff' said.

[cmork2000]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Wing won 5-1...nuff' said.


haha.....HELL YEAH!! Let's Go Red Wings......!!!

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by cmork2000
haha.....HELL YEAH!! Let's Go Red Wings......!!!

HOCKEYTOWN!!!! Man did the Wings kick ass last night:D Datsyuk, Schneider, Samuelsson, Lang, and the new kid Brett Lebda all scored. Shanny ripping on some guy, and Legace getting bored. What more could you ask for in a opening night? The Wings are back in town baby...

[Ringu]

Time to bring this thread back. What the hell happened with the Sabres last night? They lost 10-4 against the Senators! They didn't play well at all. They just stood around and just tried to stick check which obviously didn't work. Biron hurt his hand at the Pre-Game skate earlier yesterday and couldn't play so Miller played for the first half of the first period then Noronen came in.

[Phatmaster2k8]

How about dem' Wings! 12-1 and one baby...very close to breaking the record for best start in a season.

[NightmareMaster]

I know it's still early, but The Leafs are finding themselves in a world of trouble, Even with Eric Lindros in the Line up, The Leafs
don't have what they need to take control. I've heard alot of things about how The rules are working against them, and they can't play according to the new rules. As a Torontonian I am waiting for that time when I can celebrate A leaf Stanley cup win, but if the leafs continue to play the way they are, they are'nt going to even get to the Play offs, but hey it's too early, so I am hoping that they will continue to improve and see how far they advance.

[Ringu]

Aggh, the Sabres lost to Montreal 3-2. Hopefully they'll win against them tomorrow in Montreal.

[Ringu]

What the hell is with the Sabres? Theyt started out great but then when to shit here for the past few games. They lost 5-3 against the Senators on Wednesday.

[Ringu]

Finally it looks as though the Sabres are coming back, they beat Toronto last night 5-2.

[Ringu]

I seem to be talking to myself here, oh well. How baout the Sabres last night? They beat the Devils 4-1. They played a whole hell of a lot better last night than they've played in a while. There were alot of penalties last night and the majority of the game seemed to be in NJ's zone which is a good thing.

[atomic dog]

i guess the flyers streak had to end but it was a nice run.

[Ringu]

Hell Yes! The Sabres beat the Capitals 8-5 last night. I wasn't able to watch the game, despite having bought the Hockey Package, because we live so close to Buffalo they blacked it out (damn them!). Either way I'm glad they won.

[Ringu]

The Sabres also beat the Bruins last night 3-2. Yes, after each Sabres game I will be reporting the scores here.

[Ringu]

Holy shit! Juri Fisher (Red Wings) was just taken to a hospital for collapsing on the bench! Ambulances were there & his fiancee came out, it was (still is) pretty bad. He took a puck to the throat! They did CPR for over 4 minutes (which w/out air that long you're brain dead). He was breathing on his own though.

[Ashleigh]

He wasn't hit with a puck. They think maybe he was hit by a hockey stick. Either way, this is a scary situation. Epsecially when you're watching the events unfold live. I just pray that he'll be okay.

EDIT: Juri had a seizure. How awful. :(

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
He wasn't hit with a puck. They think maybe he was hit by a hockey stick. Either way, this is a scary situation. Epsecially when you're watching the events unfold live. I just pray that he'll be okay.

EDIT: Juri had a seizure. How awful. :(

Ok, what I posted was what they said happened when I posted it.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Man when I came home from work last night, the first thing my Dad told me was that Jiri collapsed on the floor. I couldn't believe it...

He wasn't hit with anything, his heart just stopped. He was brought back to life right there on the floor next the bench, and was taken to the Hospital. They of course called the game (I like Nashville now, the whole team didn't want to play either). Jiri is ok now, but will stay at the hospital for a few days to run some tests. He has had a history of heart problems, and is only 25:(

[Ringu]

Hell yeah! The Sabres beat the Islanders 4-3 in a Shootout!

[PhantomPhart]

Here we go Rangers!

When we lost Holik and others i thought we may have some problems. I should have had more faith in Jags.

[atomic dog]

that shootout goal by that one ranger, i can't remember his name, was awesome. right through his legs.

[PhantomPhart]

Originally posted by atomic dog
that shootout goal by that one ranger, i can't remember his name, was awesome. right through his legs. Marek Malek. Yes that goal is highlight of the year material.

[Ringu]

Sabres beat the Canadiens Friday 1-3. They play the Capitals tonight at 4:00 EST.

[Draven]

For those who dont already know Boston Bruins Joe Thornton was just traded to the San Jose Shark (3 Shark players going to Boston) Wayne Primeau, Marco Sturm & Brad Stuart.

[Ultimate Killer]

Originally posted by Draven
For those who dont already know Boston Bruins Joe Thornton was just traded to the San Jose Shark (3 Shark players going to Boston) Wayne Primeau, Marco Sturm & Brad Stuart.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE BRUINS THINGKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!



argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PhantomPhart]

Originally posted by Ultimate Killer
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE BRUINS THINGKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!



argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No kidding. Stuart and Strum are ok but they won't replace Joe.

[Ringu]

Jiri Fischer went back to the hospital becauseh e had an irrgular heartbeat (or something) again. I don't know the exact detail, it flashed across the TV screen this morning and I quickly saw it.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ultimate Killer
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE BRUINS THINGKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Obviously about giving up the only guy who's a star for them. Big mistake on the owner's part, and one that can only benefit San Jose.

[Draven]

Boston did pretty good with their 3 new players they beat by shutout one of the best team the Ottawa Senators & not many teams will be able to shutout Ottawa.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Draven
Boston did pretty good with their 3 new players they beat by shutout one of the best team the Ottawa Senators & not many teams will be able to shutout Ottawa.

That's good I guess, the Senators killed the Sabres when they played them earlier this season. I can't remember the score the second time they played them though.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ringu
Jiri Fischer went back to the hospital becauseh e had an irrgular heartbeat (or something) again. I don't know the exact detail, it flashed across the TV screen this morning and I quickly saw it.

He's fine Sean. Actually he came to the Wing's practice yesterday and talked to them for about 90 mins. I guess he was very happy to be back in the locker room and very excited to start playing soon again.

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by Ultimate Killer
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE BRUINS THINGKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!



argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a Bruind fan, you say that ALOT!!!! Trust me.

[Enforcer64]

Im happy the NHL season is back. Im a huge Hockey fan, i missed it. I had to settle for the AHL which isnt bad but they dont have as many televised games. I like that its back. Some of the rules were changed though. I can handle most of them because they make the game flow better and try to make it more exciting. But there is a draw back, there are more penalties being called and it is just outrageous. I agree with what Stevie Y was saing about it. No wonder why he turned down a position for the winter Olympics. But hockey is here and im down with it.

[Ringu]

The Sabres got another win on Thursday against the Ducks, 3-2. It seems that the Sabres are finally starting to play a little better. Their defense is pretty much nonexistant.

[Phatmaster2k8]

I cannot believe the Wings game tonight. It was the first game this season that I actually sat down and watched...and what a game to do that. If you didn't hear Detroit was losing 2-0 with under a minute left when Kris Draper scored off a deflection on a power play, 2-1. Then with 7 seconds left Lidstrom took a slap shot and scored! Tying the game up and putting us into overtime.

Overtime was back and forth until the end where it was a 3-on-3 with about thirty seconds left. After some smart passing Datsuk scored with not even one second left. I mean he scored with barely a tenth of a second. So frigin exciting! I haven't been that excited during a hockey game in a I don't know how long.

[Ringu]

Holy shit, did anyone see Alexander Ovechkin's goal Monday? I missed it on TV but here's a video, it's amazing: Ovechkin's amazing goal (http://www.break.com/index/amazinghockeygoal.html)

[Ashleigh]

Honestly, that was just a lucky goal. I don't think he was even trying to get that into the net. I guess it's amazing. But I really don't see what the big deal is. When you're a good hockey player (which I'm sure he is or he wouldn't even be in the NHL) you have an extremely strong sense of where the goal is at all times. He was more or less just trying to get a shot on goal. The puck going into the net was just pure luck. Nothing amazing about it.

Yeah, it's my opinion and I guess I sound like a bitch, but oh well.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Honestly, that was just a lucky goal. I don't think he was even trying to get that into the net. I guess it's amazing. But I really don't see what the big deal is. When you're a good hockey player (which I'm sure he is or he wouldn't even be in the NHL) you have an extremely strong sense of where the goal is at all times. He was more or less just trying to get a shot on goal. The puck going into the net was just pure luck. Nothing amazing about it.

Yeah, it's my opinion and I guess I sound like a bitch, but oh well.

Maybe he wasn't trying to make it in, he probably was just trying to get a shot off but the fact that it went in is amazing. You just don't see goals like that. I played Hockey for about 7 years (or so) and it's still hard enough to get a goal, let alone do something like that. Even if he just took a pot shot, he still put it up on the blade and shot it towards the net. Under the circumstances it was pretty damn good, lucky or not. But that's just you're opinion, you see the video in a different way that I perceieve it, it doesn't make you a bitch.

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by Ringu
Holy shit, did anyone see Alexander Ovechkin's goal Monday? I missed it on TV but here's a video, it's amazing: Ovechkin's amazing goal (http://www.break.com/index/amazinghockeygoal.html)

I can't check it at work so I will check it out when I get home.

[Slab]

It's definitely one for the all time highlight reel.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by The Slab
It's definitely one for the all time highlight reel.

Oh hell yeah, I just wish I could have actually seen the game when it happened.

[fatbob]

I'm really sad that Mario Lemieux retired. He has always been my favorite player and favorite athlete too. It is a shame his carrer ended how it did. But on a plus side my home town team Philidelphia Flyers seem to be doing well. My bro went to the game last night for his 21st birthday and he said him and his friends had a blast.

[thetwistedsoul]

BRUINS won tonight!!! They can play hockey once in a while

[discvader]

Originally posted by thetwistedsoul
BRUINS won tonight!!! They can play hockey once in a while
Ha, did Cam Neely come out of retirement?:)

[Ashleigh]

*cries* And the Wings lose 2 nights in a row, AT HOME, to NASHVILLE. THEY MAKE ME HATE THEM SO BAD SOMETIMES. :(

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by discvader
Ha, did Cam Neely come out of retirement?:)


You don't know how funny that is, A friend and I were joking about that tonight . We were discussing tthe old Neely and Orr days and how the bruins couln't win the Cup without one of them in the line up. But that will never happen. Way too old to play quality hockey.

[Slab]

A black eye for the Phoenix Coyotes, and Gretzky's wife.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/5313610

[Phatmaster2k8]

Is it me or are the Wings and Nashville the only two teams in the NHL?

[Slab]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Is it me or are the Wings and Nashville the only two teams in the NHL?

It's you. :p

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by The Slab
It's you. :p

Hehe, thought so;)

[jmb_052]

I wanna put 2 grand down on the Black Hawks.

[thetwistedsoul]

Bruins are making a comeback......

[Slab]

Originally posted by thetwistedsoul
Bruins are making a comeback......

Is it enough though? Trading Thornton was a HUGE mistake in my eyes.

[Slab]

Things get even worse for Gretzky it seems.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/5318424

For a guy who was squeaky clean for his whole professional life, this is real damaging whether he knew or not.

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by The Slab
Is it enough though? Trading Thornton was a HUGE mistake in my eyes.

We can hope...I agree on Thornton.

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by The Slab
Is it enough though? Trading Thornton was a HUGE mistake in my eyes.

And now they have traded Samsonov. I give up. I can't even watch them anymore.

[Slab]

Originally posted by thetwistedsoul
And now they have traded Samsonov. I give up. I can't even watch them anymore.

They traded Samsonov, and we got him. :D He already has two assists tonight in his first game with the Oil. :)

BOO FLAMES!!! :cool:

The leafs suck too. So much that I spelled their name with a lower case "L". :p

[WhiteZombie]

Originally posted by thetwistedsoul
And now they have traded Samsonov. I give up. I can't even watch them anymore.

holy fuck they traded Samsonov aswell i dident know that...jesus chirst is there manager on crack?

do you know who they got for him?

EDIT: Boston trades Sergei Samsonov to Edmonton for Marty Reasoner, Yan Stastny and a 2nd round pick .....dear god

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by 13Myers13
holy fuck they traded Samsonov aswell i dident know that...jesus chirst is there manager on crack?

do you know who they got for him?

EDIT: Boston trades Sergei Samsonov to Edmonton for Marty Reasoner, Yan Stastny and a 2nd round pick .....dear god

I don't think it was worth it. I am writing them off. Between the strike, and Bostons Management sucking big time, I am taking a break from Hockey. They are so cheap. They never want to pay for talent, so they lose good players, or they trade the good players they do have because they are not winning, due to the fact they don't want to pay. Idiots. And they Have the Money.

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by thetwistedsoul
...I am taking a break from Hockey...

You can cheer for the Wings with me. :D

[Franchise]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
You can cheer for the Wings with me. :D

Or you can laugh at hockey like most Americans. :D

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
You can cheer for the Wings with me. :D

I might just take you up on that.

[Slab]

Well, someone has to update this thread for me and the two or three others here who follow the league. :p

So, this is for me, Atomic Dog, Ashleigh, and maybe Donnie. Sorry about the Bruins. ;)

The playoff race in the west is locked down, and all eight of those teams have clinched.

1 p - DETROIT*
2 y - DALLAS*
3 y - CALGARY*
4 x - NASHVILLE
5 x - SAN JOSE
6 x - ANAHEIM
7 x - COLORADO
8 x - EDMONTON

Places 5 through 8 can still switch up, but none will be out. Here's hoping to the Oil taking on the Wings in round one, no more Dallas!!! :D

Now we just wait out the Eastern conference results, boo leafs. :)

[Ashleigh]

Awww. Poor Oilers. This will maybe be a 5 game series. If the Oil are lucky enough. ;)

[atomic dog]

well the flyers have a spot but they keep losing and moving down to be tied with the devils.

[Slab]

Originally posted by atomic dog
well the flyers have a spot but they keep losing and moving down to be tied with the devils.

I don't get the Flyers. They always start great, taper off near the end, and blow it in the post. A shame though, because I like them. They usually end up facing speed teams, and for all the skill, and size they have, the Flyers lack speed.

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Awww. Poor Oilers. This will maybe be a 5 game series. If the Oil are lucky enough. ;)

Even if the Wings win, they will be beaten up by the Oil. :p

Then likely be tossed in round 2 as a result. ;)

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by The Slab
Then likely be tossed in round 2 as a result. ;)

Those comments make me mad. Not like seething, raging angry, just mad in the "You wait in see" sorta way. :p I think the Wings are going to ride this little winning streak they got going straight into the playoffs and eventually win the Cup. In my opinion, we ARE the best team out there. Yes I know we won the President's trophy for being the best team, but I just feel we could really win the cup this year. And you have to cheer with me once the Oilers are gone. :p

[H-field Hero]

What about the blackhawks?

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Those comments make me mad. Not like seething, raging angry, just mad in the "You wait in see" sorta way. :p I think the Wings are going to ride this little winning streak they got going straight into the playoffs and eventually win the Cup. In my opinion, we ARE the best team out there. Yes I know we won the President's trophy for being the best team, but I just feel we could really win the cup this year. And you have to cheer with me once the Oilers are gone. :p

More often than not, the President's Trophy winner gets tossed. :D

I do like the wings though, and when I was watching an interview with Yzerman the other day, he didn't want to face the Oilers in round one. :)

As I said, they tend to really play hard, and physical in the playoffs, leaving opponents battered. I really don't want them to take on Dallas, so hopefully they stay in 8th spot. :)

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
What about the blackhawks?

The same Blackhawks who got pounded by the Wings last night 7 to 3?

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
The same Blackhawks who got pounded by the Wings last night 7 to 3?

True, but the Chicago Cubs could pound the Chicago Blackhawks. :p

[Franchise]

POUND!

[thetwistedsoul]

I know, the Bruins haven't played good hockey all year. Even when winning it seems they find a way to lose.

[Slab]

Originally posted by thetwistedsoul
I know, the Bruins haven't played good hockey all year. Even when winning it seems they find a way to lose.

The ownership, and GM there are a bunch of idiots. They didn't think enough of one of the best guys playing in Joe Thornton, and now he helped San Jose secure a playoff berth.

They also sent Sergei Samsanov to us, and he's had points in almost every game since the trade.

There's an organization in need of a major overhaul.

[Slab]

On another note, one of the latest douchebag players has been dealt with. :D

Kings send Sean Avery packing after the scrappy forward's latest controversy

PHOENIX (CP) - The curtain has closed on Sean Avery's controversial act in Los Angeles.

The volatile forward did not accompany the Kings to Phoenix for a game with the Coyotes on Thursday and, according to the Los Angeles Times, will never play with the team again. The end came after an argument with assistant coach Mark Hardy during practice Wednesday. Avery met with general manager Dave Taylor and interim coach John Torchetti.

The Times quotes a Kings spokesman as saying Avery was not suspended, but he will not play in the final three games of the regular season or in the playoffs should the team manage to qualify.

"We're moving on without him," the spokesman said. "We have informed Sean of this."

The 26-year-old Pickering, Ont., native is a well-known enforcer but receives even more notoriety for his opinions off the ice.

In September, Avery made derogatory comments about French-Canadian players after then-Coyote defenceman Denis Gauthier hit the Kings' Jeremy Roenick in an exhibition game. Avery issued an apology after receiving a reprimand from the NHL.

During a game against Edmonton in October, the Oilers' Georges Laraque, who is black, accused Avery of using a racial slur. Avery denied the allegation.

Even his teammates grew weary of Avery. They stood by him when former coach Andy Murray benched him in January. But many privately turned against him last week after Avery's obscenity-laced tirade at Brian Hayward, the Ducks' television commentator.

Avery finishes the year with 15 goals, 24 assists and 257 penalty minutes.


The thing is, this guy can be good, hee's just too much of a shit disturber, and not in the right away.

As of late his greatest accomplishment is landing Elisha Cuthbert. :p

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by The Slab
The ownership, and GM there are a bunch of idiots. They didn't think enough of one of the best guys playing in Joe Thornton, and now he helped San Jose secure a playoff berth.

They also sent Sergei Samsanov to us, and he's had points in almost every game since the trade.

There's an organization in need of a major overhaul.

Very true. They are one of the richest tems in the league, and one of the cheapest. We need a new owner and front office.

[Draven]

Originally posted by The Slab
The ownership, and GM there are a bunch of idiots. They didn't think enough of one of the best guys playing in Joe Thornton, and now he helped San Jose secure a playoff berth.

They also sent Sergei Samsanov to us, and he's had points in almost every game since the trade.

There's an organization in need of a major overhaul.

I heard that Ray Bourque might be name President of the Boston Bruins.

[Draven]

Originally posted by The Slab
On another note, one of the latest douchebag players has been dealt with. :D

Kings send Sean Avery packing after the scrappy forward's latest controversy

PHOENIX (CP) - The curtain has closed on Sean Avery's controversial act in Los Angeles.

The volatile forward did not accompany the Kings to Phoenix for a game with the Coyotes on Thursday and, according to the Los Angeles Times, will never play with the team again. The end came after an argument with assistant coach Mark Hardy during practice Wednesday. Avery met with general manager Dave Taylor and interim coach John Torchetti.

The Times quotes a Kings spokesman as saying Avery was not suspended, but he will not play in the final three games of the regular season or in the playoffs should the team manage to qualify.

"We're moving on without him," the spokesman said. "We have informed Sean of this."

The 26-year-old Pickering, Ont., native is a well-known enforcer but receives even more notoriety for his opinions off the ice.

In September, Avery made derogatory comments about French-Canadian players after then-Coyote defenceman Denis Gauthier hit the Kings' Jeremy Roenick in an exhibition game. Avery issued an apology after receiving a reprimand from the NHL.

During a game against Edmonton in October, the Oilers' Georges Laraque, who is black, accused Avery of using a racial slur. Avery denied the allegation.

Even his teammates grew weary of Avery. They stood by him when former coach Andy Murray benched him in January. But many privately turned against him last week after Avery's obscenity-laced tirade at Brian Hayward, the Ducks' television commentator.

Avery finishes the year with 15 goals, 24 assists and 257 penalty minutes.


The thing is, this guy can be good, hee's just too much of a shit disturber, and not in the right away.

As of late his greatest accomplishment is landing Elisha Cuthbert. :p

Sean Avery is an idiot.....so the Kings did the best thing for their Hockey club.....Even Kings's Luc Robitaille said (laughing like good old Luc does often) that they are use to Sean acting like an idiot....but i guess for the Kings it was enough is enough.

[gorefan73]

on another quick note: i dont know too much about the above, just wanted to talk about my Lightning for a minute! are you fans still taking them seriously? i think if they get in they will pull it together and make another bit of a run at the Stanley Cup! will they repeat? probably not but it will be an interesting ride and they will give their all! especially if their goaltending gets a lot better, at times it can be spectacular! all I can say now is..
GO LIGHTNING the DEFENDING STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!

[Draven]

Originally posted by gorefan73
on another quick note: i dont know too much about the above, just wanted to talk about my Lightning for a minute! are you fans still taking them seriously? i think if they get in they will pull it together and make another bit of a run at the Stanley Cup! will they repeat? probably not but it will be an interesting ride and they will give their all! especially if their goaltending gets a lot better, at times it can be spectacular! all I can say now is..
GO LIGHTNING the DEFENDING STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!

The Problem is they have no Goalie!!, i think the Atlanta Trasher will pass them they are a much better team right now.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Draven
The Problem is they have no Goalie!!, i think the Atlanta Trasher will pass them they are a much better team right now.

As long as the Maple Leafs fail, then all is right with the world. :D

Them and the Calgary Flames, but that ain't happenin' this year. :p

[Draven]

Originally posted by The Slab
As long as the Maple Leafs fail, then all is right with the world. :D

Them and the Calgary Flames, but that ain't happenin' this year. :p

and would had the Habs to that list...i would be so happy:D

[Slab]

This is for you Ashleigh. :D

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3369/torresraffi140311018lb.jpg



Originally posted by Draven
and would had the Habs to that list...i would be so happy:D

The Habs are my second favorite team. I'm hoping for them in the East. :p

[Ashleigh]

The only thing I'm frightened by is the Oilers jerseys. Lord have mercy those were atrocious. Get them out of my face. THINE EYES! :p

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
The only thing I'm frightened by is the Oilers jerseys. Lord have mercy those were atrocious. Get them out of my face. THINE EYES! :p

You love them!!!

Surely as much as you love seeing the Predators' jersey. :D

[Draven]

Originally posted by The Slab
This is for you Ashleigh. :D

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3369/torresraffi140311018lb.jpg





The Habs are my second favorite team. I'm hoping for them in the East. :p


you better pray for them because they might not make the playoffs :D...beside Atlanta & Tampa Bay are better teams.

[thetwistedsoul]

The Bruins just plain Suck. They Suck. I am asaked to be a Bruins fan.

[Slab]

Originally posted by thetwistedsoul
The Bruins just plain Suck. They Suck. I am asaked to be a Bruins fan.

They're going to have a shake up, there's no way to avoid it after this season. Especially after such poor management decisions, and two of their trades being extremely valuable to the teams they sent them to.

With them being an original six team, this kind of suckage won't be an option to continue with.

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by The Slab
They're going to have a shake up, there's no way to avoid it after this season. Especially after such poor management decisions, and two of their trades being extremely valuable to the teams they sent them to.

With them being an original six team, this kind of suckage won't be an option to continue with.

They need to stop cheaping out on the players. Spend some damn moeny, put some guys together and let them stay together for a while to build up some raport and teamwork, know what I mean.

[Ashleigh]

Oh, I forgot to add that if he wants to see Brett Hull on Friday, he's going to miss the first game of the playoffs. :p

[Phatmaster2k8]

You guys all know the Wings are going to wipe the playoff floor this year right?

I sure hope so... I really don't want any we lost in the first round again crap

[H-field Hero]

If they win the cup and the pistons win the NBA title this would be a CRAZY time for the city. Especially when considering the two titles would be won very close to one another.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Oh, I forgot to add that if he wants to see Brett Hull on Friday, he's going to miss the first game of the playoffs. :p

Only pic I could find with players from either team together. :p

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
If they win the cup and the pistons win the NBA title this would be a CRAZY time for the city. Especially when considering the two titles would be won very close to one another.

The best part about that (for me) is that I have tickets to both the Pistons and Wings in the playoffs. Which means I would have tickets to the finals for both :D

But I just hope the Wings don't go into any overtime play during this year's playoffs, they were horrible in extra time this past regular season. Does anybody know if the shootout rule continues over into post season? Because if it does then we're screwed... I mean I cannot count how many times Legace got burned on some of those dekes.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Does anybody know if the shootout rule continues over into post season? Because if it does then we're screwed... I mean I cannot count how many times Legace got burned on some of those dekes.

As far as I know shootouts were only for the regular season. Overtimes will be continual in the playoffs until there's a winner.

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by The Slab
As far as I know shootouts were only for the regular season. Overtimes will be continual in the playoffs until there's a winner.

Oh thank God. I hated watching shootouts. They were lame. Bring on the extra 20 minute periods. lol

[Slab]

Well, the East is now locked up!

1 OTTAWA
2 CAROLINA
3 NEW JERSEY
4 BUFFALO
5 PHILADELPHIA
6 NY RANGERS
7 MONTREAL
8 TAMPA BAY

I'm glad the Habs won't end up facing the Sens to open. At least that way a Canadian team isn't certain for a first round exodus. :p

How about the Devils though, stinking it up a few weeks ago, and they rally back to take the division. I'd have to say that the sleepers this year would be Buffalo, and San Jose.


Should be an exciting post-season! :D

[atomic dog]

yeah i'm with you on san jose. something about them tells me they will do good this playoff season.

damn flyers can't keep in check. at least they won tonight.

[gorefan73]

well its official: 1st round is the senators and the lightning! MAN would I be feeling a LOT better if the Lightning ended up playing Carolina. I do NOT give them a whole lot of a chance against Ottawa. But they are the defending champs and will NOT go down without a fight! they WILL make it entertaining, I feel. Also, when you see a series as lopsided as this one, in favor of Ottawa in so many ways, that could spell trouble for the favorite. They start to believe their own hype and overestimate their chances. Psychologically I hope that IS what happens!
GO LIGHTNING!!!

[Ringu]

Originally posted by The Slab
I'd have to say that the sleepers this year would be Buffalo...

Hell yeah! That's great for Buffalo. They seem to have gotten their act together after their horrendous start of the season. Hell, they killed Ottawa the last two times they played them, which in turn Ottawa killd them the first two times they played. Buffalo has a good shot this year if they can keep up the good work and not get lazy and screw off.

[TheShape66]

With the Pens long out of it, I guess I'm going to rout for Carolina, only because I know the coach, who used to be head coach for our ECHL team in Wheeling.

[Angel]

I want the Rangers to win it all.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060421/capt.ny15704211942.rangers_devils_hockey_ny157.jpg

I love that man. I hate Pittsburgh for trading him. Now I'll never get my chance to find him, he lives too far away now :(

[Ashleigh]

Whoo-hoo. I am so freakin' pumped for game 1 tonight of the Wings and Oilers. All I can say is, if we lose (Wings), I will cry. REALLY hard. :( Pull this one out for me, guys. :p

[Ashleigh]

Well, I'm a sad little girl today. :(

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Well, I'm a sad little girl today. :(

The Wings SUCKED, plain and simple today. Actually find time to watch them and they lose. The Oilers are just playing so much harder then us, we need to step it up.

Hopefully later tonight the Pistons can change my mood around...

[Slab]

The Oil palyed a lot better today. Roloson wasn't the only guy to show up this time, and they can play well against the Wings. I still don't expect them to win the series, but I expect them to leave them hurting for the next one.

A split was what they needed to not have this be a blowout, so I was really happy with how they did. I had this pegged for going about 6 games.

[Slab]

As of ysterday most of the series have evened themselves out. Most importantly the Godless calgary flames go back to Anaheim with a split. :p

Hopefully that trend can be broken with the Habs going up 2-0 on Carolina tonight. :D Shaping up to be hard fought playoff race, just the way I like it. :)

[Slab]

An odd little trend happening it seems. The games being played today are all series in which everyone seems to be up 2 games to none. On the other hand the other group have all come back to tie series one all.

Some exciting ones today with both Montreal, and the Avs leading by 3, giving up that lead, and coming back to win in OT. Double OT in the Montreal game, and both winners being the lower seeds.

When it comes to the Philly Buffalo series, it seems the Flyers are doing their annual playoff choke quite early. Completely humiliated by the Sabres, and now going back to a very unhappy home crowd in Philly down by 2. Even Ken Hitchcock told reporters to tell Buffalo coach Lindy Ruff to go F#%k himself. :p

As for the Rangers....who didn't expect the Devils to spank them. :p Especially the way they've been on fire the last month. Jagr's injury just guarantees they won't get farther than this round.

[Ashleigh]

I actually feel really bad about the Rangers sucking it up. I really expected them to do something this playoff season, but it seems as if they're gonna go 4 up and 4 down. Poor kids. :p

And OMG, did Ken Hitchcock really say that? lol That's awesome.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh

And OMG, did Ken Hitchcock really say that? lol That's awesome.

He did, and it was caught on camera. I already saw it about 4 times. :p

[Phatmaster2k8]

Well I have no fingernails left... and now I'm in a pissed off mood.

[Loomis78]

Can Somebody tell me where to get the halloween 6 p-cut in canada espacially in québec that will help me a lot ??????

[Angel]

Originally posted by Loomis78
Can Somebody tell me where to get the halloween 6 p-cut in canada espacially in québec that will help me a lot ??????

You could always check on eBay, they seem to have everything on there.

[Loomis78]

IVE Already checked there they dont sell it ??????

[thetwistedsoul]

Originally posted by Loomis78
Can Somebody tell me where to get the halloween 6 p-cut in canada espacially in québec that will help me a lot ??????

Check your PM Box

[Slab]

Originally posted by Loomis78
Can Somebody tell me where to get the halloween 6 p-cut in canada espacially in québec that will help me a lot ??????

Originally posted by Angel
You could always check on eBay, they seem to have everything on there.

Ok people, this is not the thread for H6, take it to that forum. This one's all about the NHL, and the 3 or 4 members here that follow it. :D

[atomic dog]

i hope the flyers wake up or it's pink slip time.

[Ringu]

Originally posted by atomic dog
i hope the flyers wake up or it's pink slip time.

Keep hoping, the Sabres are gonna dominate!:D

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Well I have no fingernails left... and now I'm in a pissed off mood.

Same here. I just wish they hadn't teased us by tying the score. If they were going to lose, they should have lost 3-1. I'm disappointed.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Same here. I just wish they hadn't teased us by tying the score. If they were going to lose, they should have lost 3-1. I'm disappointed.

As disappointed as the two of you are, I was ecstatic with last nights result. It was a pretty intense game. Lots of back and forth, and little to no trap as the Oilers were using in the first two games.

The Oilers are definitely showing the pundits that they can play against the Wings though, especially those first two periods. The thing is that the longer these games go, the more it hampers the Wings. They're all superb athletes, but the age factor gets you when you're almost playing 5 periods of run and gun hockey.

It looked like Stevie Y was hurt near the end too, and that's something I never like to see with that kind of player. Even if it bodes well for my team.

Tonight, I look forward to the Habs, Sabres, and Avs hopefully going up 3-0. :D

[Ashleigh]

Honestly, I was more concerned with Stevie being okay than the outcome. lol I worry about him like he's my son. :p

[Slab]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Honestly, I was more concerned with Stevie being okay than the outcome. lol I worry about him like he's my son. :p

Your 40 year old son. :D :p

[Ashleigh]

LOL. Honestly. Actually, I'd prefer him to be my 40 year old husband. *wink nudge* :p

[Ringu]

Looking forward to the Sabres winning another game tonight!

[discvader]

Well, it would be nice, if the Wings had a goalie...Ah, the days of Osgood and Hasek.... No Manny...

It's starting to feel like when Detroit was a #1 seed and got beat by San Jose(#8 seed) a couple of years there in the mid-ninties... Oh well, GO WINGS... :)

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by discvader
Well, it would be nice, if the Wings had a goalie...Ah, the days of Osgood and Hasek.... No Manny...

It's starting to feel like when Detroit was a #1 seed and got beat by San Jose(#8 seed) a couple of years there in the mid-ninties... Oh well, GO WINGS... :)

Aww. :( I think Manny is a FINE goalie. Those two wrap arounds last night were the fault of the two defensemen, not Manny. ;) Sure, it's his job to keep pucks out of the net, but it's not his job to defend what Chelios and Lidstrom should be defending. And I'd rather see Manny, Hasek and even Cujo in the net before I put Ozzie in there. He makes me nervous ALL THE TIME. lol

And just because the Oilers are up on us by one game does not mean we should throw the towel in. I think that game three was a turning point for the Wings. I have a feeling this series is gonna go 6 or 7 games. And ultimately the Wings will be winners. :)

[discvader]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Aww. :( I think Manny is a FINE goalie. Those two wrap arounds last night were the fault of the two defensemen, not Manny. ;) Sure, it's his job to keep pucks out of the net, but it's not his job to defend what Chelios and Lidstrom should be defending. And I'd rather see Manny, Hasek and even Cujo in the net before I put Ozzie in there. He makes me nervous ALL THE TIME. lol

And just because the Oilers are up on us by one game does not mean we should throw the towel in. I think that game three was a turning point for the Wings. I have a feeling this series is gonna go 6 or 7 games. And ultimately the Wings will be winners. :)
I'm sorry, I guess I was taking my frustrations out on Manny? I agree with you on all points, except about Cujo...No...Maybe when he was with Toronto, but...no... ;)

I'm not giving up on them, but I just have that feeling? Detroit looks "lazy", while Edmonton looks energized(blocking pucks, etc..), I guess you get that way watching The Wings all these years(heart-ache, should have at least 5 Cups in the last 15 years!!!)

[H-field Hero]

Detroit wins this series in 6 games. How do I know this? I'm Barry Melrose, thats how.

[Slab]

Originally posted by H-field Hero
Detroit wins this series in 6 games. How do I know this? I'm Barry Melrose, thats how.

Best Mullet ever!!!!

When it comes to blocked shots though, the Oilers are one of the highter ranking teams to do that. I believe the Wings are right up there too.

[Ringu]

Shit! It's 3-2 and the Sabres are down. Let's hope they can pull another goal (two preferably) out of their ass in time...


ADDED:
***Begin Rant***Fuck! Shit! Buffalo lost! Dammit!***End Rant*** (I know it's only one game but it still sucks to see your team lose any game)

[Slab]

Frickin' 'Canes just took the game in OT!!

DAMN!!!


Brind'Amour's tying goal late in the third was so weak too. I guess they'll just have to win their fourth in Raleigh. :D

[atomic dog]

Originally posted by Ringu
Shit! It's 3-2 and the Sabres are down. Let's hope they can pull another goal (two preferably) out of their ass in time...


ADDED:
***Begin Rant***Fuck! Shit! Buffalo lost! Dammit!***End Rant*** (I know it's only one game but it still sucks to see your team lose any game)

:D :D :D

ok i'm done for the night. thank god it's not a sweep.

[Bennett Tramer]

alright the Hurricanes won in OT Go Carolina

[Draven]

Well im happy that the Devils are leading the series 3-0 over the N.Y. Rangers (I hate them), definitely a sweep coming up.

Btw Im a N.Y. Islanders fan:D

[Ringu]

Originally posted by atomic dog
:D :D :D

ok i'm done for the night. thank god it's not a sweep.

Oh haha. I'm glad you're happy!:mad:
:p

[Phatmaster2k8]

LET'S GO WINGS!!!!!

[Ashleigh]

I'm to the point where I want this Wings/Oilers series to be over with. I guess you can say that I lost faith, and that kills me to say that. I just don't think we have it in us to beat this team. They're obviously more hungry than we are, faster and stronger. I just hate that this may be Yzerman's last year and he has to go out like this. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy he's won 3 cups, but he's just such a nice, genuine guy that you want him to win all the time. lol If the Oilers do in fact pull this off and win, congrats to them. Either way, they're going to have a hell of a time trying to beat the Avalanche. So, good luck to them. ;) If the Wings hold off and win, they'll also have a hard time playing the Avs. :p Is it so wrong to want my team to do well? I don't think so. C'mon Wings, win, damnit. You're better than what you're playing. STOP MAKING ME SAD. :(

[Phatmaster2k8]

Man did you speak the truth Ash... I don't know what is going on with the Wings. Nobody is really playing up to par and I find myself just mindboggled (yes boggled) to the reason why. Legace... I dunno. That wrap around in Game 3, and now both shots tonight through the five hole? There is no excuse but he's is still playing good enough to beat this team. Shanny is the one that I'm very pissed off about. Whenever he gets out on the ice he does absolutely shit. Touches the puck, skates in a circle, and then loses the puck skating off back to the bench. At least Cheli is playing with some spirit, even if that means getting sent to the box. Cross checking that dipwad Symth (or whatever) in the face is good in my book.

[Ashleigh]

Oh Lord, don't even get me talking about Legace. We should honestly be up 3-0 or at least 3-1. And that wrap around in game 3 was fucking ridiculous - pardon my french. And yes, I am also disappointed in Shanny. I really want him to step it up. He can do it. :D

EDIT: If Legace doesn't stay in the fucking net, I will personally kill him myself.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
Oh Lord, don't even get me talking about Legace. We should honestly be up 3-0 or at least 3-1. And that wrap around in game 3 was fucking ridiculous - pardon my french. And yes, I am also disappointed in Shanny. I really want him to step it up. He can do it. :D

EDIT: If Legace doesn't stay in the fucking net, I will personally kill him myself.

HAHA... yes:D I'm so relived to see the Wings pull through this one. We needed a win, and they did deliver the goods. Glad to see Datsuk step it up and recover from his injury setting Zetterburg up real nice. And boy did Zetterburg school Roloson out of his pants!:) Exactly what I wanted to see. Lidstrom goal was ridiculous, I'm tired seeing the Oilers pulling those dives all over the place. The refs were officiating this game tight and it was great to see them not call anything there (but there was some crap officiating tonight also).

And poor Cleary, he's not playing bad at all and then Pronger just smoked him. I bet that hurt.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Lidstrom goal was ridiculous, I'm tired seeing the Oilers pulling those dives all over the place. The refs were officiating this game tight and it was great to see them not call anything there (but there was some crap officiating tonight also).

And poor Cleary, he's not playing bad at all and then Pronger just smoked him. I bet that hurt.

Dive my ass, that was plain obstruction. Stoll was picked off, and it should have been whistled. The Oil didn't deserve to win tonight though, they took way too many stupid penalties, and you can't be doing that shit.


....and that hit was awesome!!! :D

[discvader]

Dear Mr.Pronger,

SWEET!!!! Please don't do that again(at least to any more Wings)...

Manny Legace in goal, then he spots a fly(rare in many places) and decides to go and chase it...STAY IN THE F*@KING NET!!!


Wow, The lightning coach(Tortorella) just blasted their goalie in the post-game interview, but 4 goals in 16 shots...ouch!!! :eek:

[Ashleigh]

Wow okay. This game is just laughable. lmao I'm going to watch Halloween 5 on AMC and live vicariously through Michael Myers. :D!

[Franchise]

You're not the only one that's laughing. My roommate is near tears that the Wings are losing. I'm laughing.

[Slab]

Well, that is a sight better than the disgust game 4 left with me. I caught the first period, not too much happening there. Then I was sporadically catching the second, and they were on top of the Wings whenever I tuned in. The third, I missed entirely, but when I got home from work I did catch the Oiler celebration at the end. :)

On another note...so long Rangers. There was never any real doubt though. Looking forward to Monday, and Wednesday if necessary. ;)

By the way, props to Shawn Horcoff for stopping that last shot WITH HIS FACE!!! :p

It can only help him, as well as the team. :D

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by The Slab
Well, that is a sight better than the disgust game 4 left with me. I caught the first period, not too much happening there. Then I was sporadically catching the second, and they were on top of the Wings whenever I tuned in. The third, I missed entirely, but when I got home from work I did catch the Oiler celebration at the end. :)


Screw you!!! :p

You guys really do deserve to win the series, the Oilers just want it more. I was listening to the game at work with some other guys and man was is sickening to hear. I shall from this point on root for the Oilers the rest of the post-season, they need a cup!

[Slab]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
I shall from this point on root for the Oilers the rest of the post-season, they need a cup!

A sixth cup. :)

The last one in 1990, and it's been too long. Most fans would be happy with a series win at the least. :p

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by The Slab
A sixth cup. :)

The last one in 1990, and it's been too long. Most fans would be happy with a series win at the least. :p

Ohh man I know, the fans at Game 5 are going to be going crazy. But I have to ask one question... what is up with your national anthem singer? He... is... so... bad.

[Slab]

Originally posted by Phatmaster2k6
Ohh man I know, the fans at Game 5 are going to be going crazy. But I have to ask one question... what is up with your national anthem singer? He... is... so... bad.

Old Paul Lorrieau. :p

I don't know why he does it, he's just been doing it as long as I can remember. There has to be some pictures, or another kind of blackmail going on. :D

The crowd being loud, and crazy is nothing new here though. They just bbroke a decibel record with the fandemonium hitting 108 decibels. A new record for the Oiler fans. :)

As for cheering, don't stop cheering for your team until they're legitimately out of competition, then you can cheer for the Oilers. It's not over yet.

What you can do is cheer for whomever is playing against those godless, disgusting, child eating, Calagary Flames. :)

[Slab]

On another note, so long Tampa Bay. Ottawa gets to the second round, and this is a great boost for their goalie Ray Emery. He probably expected to watch Hasek from the bench this year, and is now proving himself solid.

The question is, will they pull him in favor of The Dominator when he's ready to go?

[Angel]

I'm pissed off at Jagr now.

[Ashleigh]

Originally posted by The Slab
The question is, will they pull him in favor of The Dominator when he's ready to go?

I don't know, but they shouldn't. It's always my understanding that you get your goalie on a winning streak and ride him out to the end of the playoffs.

[Franchise]

I think pulling a winning goalie is a lot like the situation that the Bears (NFL) were in this past year. They had a rookie QB that won 10 games or so and then pulled him for the veteran QB who just came back from being hurt. It seemed to work there. I guess it's just a matter of what you think. I think you leave the proven winner in.

[reddragon]

My favorite thing about hockey is how many fights break out in each game lol.

Go to www.video.google.com for hallarious hockey fights

[Slab]

I agree with the idea of go with who's winning the games. At this point I think Emery has earned the right to start when Hasek is ready to come back.

Only if he goes on a skid in round 2 do you pull him out.

As for today, so long Stars. :D

[Ashleigh]

Wow. The guys in Toronto blew that call. Hemsky CLEARLY kicked that puck in with his foot. If that bad call causes us to lose the fucking game - wow, I'll be pissed.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Wow... if that's not the biggest bullshit call in all of sports then I don't know what else it would be. Hey, let's have these Canadian officials talk to the other Canadian officials up top so they can call some more Canadians in Toronto to see if this Canadian team scored by kicking the puck in the net.

And the NHL wants to be popular again...

[Slab]

I'm at work, so I didn't get to see the contested goal. Once I see the highlights later on, I'll chime in.

[Phatmaster2k8]

Originally posted by The Slab
I'm at work, so I didn't get to see the contested goal. Once I see the highlights later on, I'll chime in.

The thing is I don't really care that the Wings lost. They didn't deserve the series win, the Oilers just skated harder and played with more spirit. I'm just pissed that Legace actually played A LOT better then how he's been, and the game gets tied with a crap goal like that. That wasn't a goal at all, Hemsky cleary was making a kicking motion when the puck went it.

And then having the Canadian officials talk to the other Canadian officials up top so they can call some more Canadians in Toronto to see if this Canadian team (who hasn't won a cup in a good while I might add)scored by kicking the puck in the net was just pure BS.

[Ashleigh]

I can honestly say that I am not bitter. Edmonton was the better team. I wish them luck and extend my congratulations to them on their continuing road to the Stanley Cup. They may have a few dirty players, but what hockey team doesn't? lol Hmmm, I guess they play Colorado, so they'll need all the luck in the world. :p

I'm not bitter but I am so sad right now. lol If this was in fact Steve Yzerman's last hockey game - I'm just so sad. :( That man is a legend. He's a truly classy man. Never once has a bad word been spoken about him. He's genuine, talented and amazing. I'd like to think athletes are invincible and that they never get old. I'd like to think that about him. lol I'll never forget what he's done for this team and the city of Detroit. I'll never forget what he's done for me personally. He is a role model for me. And I'm not scared or embarrassed to admit that. I wish him nothing but success in life and I thank him for being him.[/end sappy moment]

Yes, I'm lame. I can't help it. I love that man. Forget Gretzky, Yzerman's the greatest.

[Draven]

Originally posted by Ashleigh
I guess they play Colorado, so they'll need all the luck in the world. :p



nope their no chance they'll play against Colorado in the next round, Edmonton finished 8th & Colorado 7th so the Oilers will play Calgary if they win their series against the Ducks...if not then the Oilers will Play San Jose....hope thats clear LOL:D

more simple:

Edmonton vs San Jose (if they Flames gets eliminated)

Edmonton vs Calgary (if Anaheim gets eliminated)

With Detroit & Dallas out.....Watch out for Colorado (and Theodore).

[Ringu]

Originally posted by Draven
With Detroit & Dallas out.....Watch out for Colorado (and Theodore).

Nope, you mean watch out for Buffalo. They're gonna smoke the Flyers tonight.